"Sorry, Tsukki!"
Introducing Karasuno's Mean Gays - Tsukishima and Yamaguchi!
This week, rainbow and em cover season 1, episode 3 'The Most Powerful Ally' (or 'The Most Formidable Ally' if you're watching the sub) and discuss Tsukishima's seemingly blasé attitude towards volleyball, Hinata's desire to be part of a team, and Kageyama's changing opinion on Hinata's abilities. During the character spotlight, the two talk about what intelligence means for someone like Kageyama.
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"Sorry, Tsukki!"
Introducing Karasuno's Mean Gays - Tsukishima and Yamaguchi!
This week, rainbow and em cover season 1, episode 3 'The Most Powerful Ally' (or 'The Most Formidable Ally' if you're watching the sub) and discuss Tsukishima's seemingly blasé attitude towards volleyball, Hinata's desire to be part of a team, and Kageyama's changing opinion on Hinata's abilities. During the character spotlight, the two talk about what intelligence means for someone like Kageyama.
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Hello everyone, welcome to Fly a Haikyuu podcast. I'm Rainbow [em] and I'm Ann, [rainbow] and today we are talking about season one, episode three the Most Powerful Ally.
em:And who could that be?
rainbow:I wonder who it could be. I think the, so the dub, is the most powerful ally, but then I think on crunchy roll it's the formidable ally. So very interesting that we have different translations there. So before we jump into our episode discussion, we have just a little bit of housekeeping for you, and our very first thing I wanna talk about is the recap that we do at the beginning of the episode. We've decided to take out the 30-second time limit because we're not a fan of it.
em:And we don't we wanna reach it, and then we just kinda get halfway through and it's just yeah, we wanna let ourselves actually say the whole thing.
rainbow:Yeah, em was really. She was the champion for that. She was like I wanna be able to actually say the full recap and I was like that's fair. And so we do wanna do like a small little recap because it's fun and I think I'm going to try doing it off the cuff, mainly because I forgot to do any kind of recap pre-written last night after I watched the episode. I'm just gonna do it off the cuff. We are gonna try to keep it pretty short. Still, I don't wanna be going crazy with it. The other little housekeeping thing we wanted to mention is that we are thinking of setting up a Kofi for us. I think that's what it's called.
em:Is it Kofi or Kofi? Kofi, kofi. You know what we mean. Yeah, you know.
rainbow:KO-FI and we're gonna do that for donations just to start out, because it does cost money for us to like host the podcast and do the transcription services and we don't feel like we have enough of a following to do like a full Patreon. We don't expect anyone to like do memberships for us or anything. [em] it felt like a big ask right off the top.
em:So we're gonna try the Kofi thing first and see how we like it.
rainbow:Yeah, we're just gonna like offer. You know, if you want to donate to us, if you have some extra money, feel free, but we don't want anyone to feel pressured to. If you do not have the money or you do not want to donate or support us financially, that is fine. Just listening is all we need.
em:Yeah, and it all goes like we said to the podcast. It costs money just to have our stuff be distributed and to do like transcription, because we want this to be accessible and stuff like that.
rainbow:yeah so I think that's it for housekeeping. unless you have anything to add. Nah, let's get into the good stuff. All right, let's do a quick recap here. Count me down please. Oh, three, two, one. All right.
rainbow:So Kage Hina are doing secret morning practice with Tanaka, and who shows up at the door? But Suga, another senpai there to help him. Of course Kagey ama refuses to set to Hinata because Hinata cannot even receive the ball yet and Suga feels a little bad for him. So he helps him practice during lunch and Kagey ama overhears conversation they have. That maybe changes his mind a little bit about Hinata, and so they continue practicing. They're still not allowed in the gym, so they're practicing outside. Meanwhile, over in the gym, karasano meets their other two first years that are joining the team and we don't get to see their faces at first until they run into Kage Hina outside. And then we meet Tsukishima and Yamaguchi and they are mean gays, we'll get into that more and Tsukishima is bullying Kagey ama about his past and Kagey ama is very angry about it, and Hinata kind of stands up for Kagey ama in a way, which is fun, and then you get to see Tsukishima pretending like he doesn't care and then very clearly caring a lot, and then what else happens.
em:And then the next morning they're in the gym and they're about to face off.
rainbow:And then we end on them, ready for their three on three match.
em:Yeah, this episode basically covers the week leading up to this three on three of Hinata training and getting ready.
rainbow:Absolutely. Yeah, it's kind of like the game that will get them into the team so they can really start practicing. Because, poor Hinata, all he wants to do is be on a team and play volleyball but he just wants teammates. He just wants teammates. Oh, he really does. But because of him and Kagey ama being unable to not bicker and fight with each other, he can't play. So they have to practice and, yeah, I think we should just jump into it. What are your feelings on that kind of first little beginning part where we see Kagey ama and Hinata practicing and Suga coming in and just being-.
em:I just really love Suga. I have in my notes just Suga is cool because he just is Like he I know there's a lot of discussion about like people you know call him Suga Mama and they really put him into this like pigeonholed mom stereotype and people don't love that and I totally get that too. But he really is like he's like the cool parent you know. He clocked what Tanaka was doing and shows up and is helpful and yeah, I just I love him. That was my main note for the beginning and oh, I also said Hinata is really at his babyist here Feed me toss to me, daddy, daddy, because he's literally just like outright begging Kageya ma for tosses and Kagey ama is having none of it.
rainbow:Well, it's part of like the Hinata as Hinata is still very immature in this first season especially.
em:Yes, he's just so he's still like he's fresh and just desperate. He's finally like he's so close to getting what he wants, but he still has a long way to go.
rainbow:Well, and he doesn't know that to get what he wants, he has to do a lot more than just spike. Like what he wants is to spike the ball. He thinks that's the coolest thing, and so he's just begging for spikes. But he doesn't understand the very basic concept of volleyball, that, like there are no spikes without receive. And Kagey ama is being very mean about it to Hinata. He's being like a huge jerk, because that's just how Kagey ama is in the first season. And he is like it's like he doesn't understand. Like this isn't how you teach a lesson. You don't like berate somebody into understanding, but like what he's saying is true. He's like, if you can't even receive the ball, like why should you be able to spike it. And he has that whole very mean line of like I don't I only set to people, I think-.
em:Are essential to winning yes who are essential to winning. And.
rainbow:I don't think that's ever going to be you.
em:Yeah, and his very prickly way I mean he is right Like he's making Hinata earn it because he has to, he can't just jump into spiking, he's gone.
rainbow:Yeah, I have complicated feelings about the whole like you have to earn it thing.
em:I mean he does Like he could just be nicer about it, and I love the way that Suga is like you can't just toss him a few and it's like no, they have to be intense and gay about it, they can't just like practice. He has to earn it because Kageyama is just extremely serious about it and it is what he has to do. Could we package this nicer? Absolutely, but it is ultimately what Hinata needs and by the end of the week he is, he earns it.
rainbow:So he does. Yeah, I mean, as somebody who went to school briefly to be a teacher. It's like, well, you know, I mean, if you, you know, give Hinata rewards like if he does one good receive, let him have a spike that will really like help him with the frustration. But this is again just part of the way that Kagehina communicate with each other. Where it's like Kageyama is like no, I have to push you and I have to push you, and Hinata does the same thing to Kageyama, I think that's something that gets lost a lot. That just because like Hinata is like sunshine doesn't mean he's not also pushing Kageyama to the same extent where, like when they're out practicing, like there's like a couple times in this episode where Kageyama tries to say like OK, that's enough, for, like you know, later on this is a little, getting a little head ahead of it, but like Tsukishima pisses Kageyama off and Kageyama is like we're going and Hinata is like, no, we're not done practicing, we're going to keep practicing.
em:That's what makes them work is like yes, Kageyama is relentless and brutal, but so is Hinata. There was a fic that like that. There's a fic line that I love where I want, to which way it's from. But there are times where Kageyama's immovable force is is weaker than Hinata's unstoppable object or something like that, and I think that that's true.
rainbow:Yes, absolutely. I also wanted to just mention that in the dub, tanaka gives such a major Sokka vibes from Avatar, the Last Airbender. Like just the way he like that, his cadence and the way he says things.
em:It's just like a goofy guy who wants girls.
rainbow:Exactly, it's just like comic relief character, but also, you know, like he's. He's often very silly but also capable of being very serious, and I'm very excited to talk about Tanaka as we go on.
em:So Kageyama, like we said, is not making this easy, but Hinata is rising to the challenge. He practices on his breaks with Suga, who again is just cool and helping Hinata and again offers to. During this he's like you know, I can toss for you and he just like, oh, but that doesn't count because again they have to be intense and gay about it. If he doesn't earn Kageyama's tosses and he just takes Suga's, it's the same as losing.
rainbow:And it's part of that whole like fate connecting them thing where, like, hinata understands that, like, kageyama is his setter and is going to be his setter while he's at Karasuno. No, I think, like you know, even though they haven't even determined like team lineups or anything, I think Hinata knows he's like that's the setter who's going to be setting to me and he won't do it yet and I think it's so crucial that we see Kageyama overhearing this conversation.
em:Yes, I feel like this is a moment where Kageyama starts to understand how serious Hinata really is.
rainbow:Yes, like this is an episode about Kageyama learning to believe in and trust Hinata. And to be fair to Kageyama, like Hinata is like he's, I could see why Kageyama would think he's all talk. Yeah, and you know, hinata could very much come across as a like I am all talk, no action, I can't back it up. But boy oh boy, does he fucking back it up.
em:Yeah, because he's this hyper little excitable kid who doesn't know what he's doing.
rainbow:But yeah, and I think we both made the note of like Hinata just wants a team. Like give Hinata teammates like like he just wants like and I think that's something Kageyama still hasn't really grasped yet. I don't even know if he hears that part like that Like Hinata never had a team to play with, he never had a team to support him, kind of in the way that Kageyama never had a team to support him really.
rainbow:Um, like he had always had a team to play with, but I think he never felt supported by that team. And then Hinata had like friends to play with, but he never had a team.
em:Yeah, he's talking about the people who helped him practice along the way and he's like they were great friends but they just weren't really teammates, and that's what he needs and I also love in this, in this moment, um, when they're talking him, and Suga um Hinata basically has to admit that Kageyama is the bar for him, like he is the ultimate goal and he thinks Kageyama is cool and that's Canon, and I don't know what you want me to say about it.
rainbow:He literally is talking. He what does he say? I think I wrote it down. I was like he's, so he would. He's talking about when they played together, played against each other in middle school, and he was like he was so tall and powerful and strong and handsome, I mean yeah and good at everything and it was.
rainbow:I always like hated being on the other side of the net as him and I love the like visuals of like a tiny Hinata and like a monstrous Kageyama. And then I also love when Hinata was talking about how excited he was to get to high school and have and be on a team and have a setter to play with and he is slowly like just losing steam thinking about how mean Kageyama is.
rainbow:And it's just like. So it's like, it's like it's okay, it's going to be better. You're going to love, you're going to want Kageyama to keep tossing to you over and, over and over again. Just like in this episode just over and over again. He's like no, keep hitting, like we're going to keep passing the ball, we're going to do it over and over again and I really do love that yeah.
em:So he over here, so Kageyama over here is. You know a lot of this conversation. And then we cut to after school practice and Kageyama has found a place for them to practice and I like to think that that's partially because of what he witnessed and he's like okay, he's serious, like let's do this.
rainbow:Yeah, absolutely. And I think I don't know what he was planning to do before he overheard that. But I think as soon as he realized I think that's it's just part of him realizing like, oh, Hinata is serious about this, and I think he's like, okay, if he's serious about it, then we're going to go practice together, yeah. And so they go and they practice like in some field, somewhere, and they and they're going at it for hours. They like after school, like when do they do their homework? Never?
em:They don't, and that's that's going to be a struggle later on in the series Spoiler alert. They don't pay attention to their studies. Yeah, they're going back and forth and for kids, just one or two steps down physically, and physically and mentally.
rainbow:I was just gonna say I think them passing in the field together is such like Hinata's ADHD and Kageyama is autism, because Hinata keeps getting distracted, like his mind keeps wondering, oh, why does he hate that King nickname? Like, oh, I want a nickname. Something about the wind.
em:That whole part is so cute because again it just reinforces how cool Hinata thinks Kageyama is. He doesn't know the history behind the King nickname yet, so he's just like what's the problem? I wish I was you.
rainbow:Also I wanted to talk about kind of getting away from Kagehino for a second, but Suga is like low key reading Tanaka this whole episode.
em:Oh my gosh.
rainbow:He's like at the very beginning, when he like comes in and is like I knew you guys were doing secret practice, and Tanaka's like how did you know? And Suga's like you don't you always show up late to practice, you never want the key, like obviously it was suspicious. And then when Daichi is like why are you two so tired? And Suga's like I was up studying and Tanaka was like me too. And Suga's like nobody's going to believe that yes.
em:And then they have a conversation later and I forget where exactly in the episode it happens. But he's trying to kind of talk to Tanaka about Kageyama and how he seems to have changed from junior high and Tanaka's not really like understanding what he's saying and Suga's like you're right, I shouldn't have talked to you about this, and it's just like damn.
rainbow:Yeah, and I think I don't know how it is in the sub, but in the dub Tanaka's like what. You didn't have to say it like that. Like he's. He knows Suga is reading him Like it's so funny.
em:It's pretty brutal.
rainbow:I think I even have it in my notes. I was like damn Suga, leave Tanaka alone.
em:He's coming for all three of his brain cells. Oh yes, literally. And then we meet. While we get a glimpse of our first years, our other, first years, yes, from the neck down.
rainbow:And I I have in my notes. I don't think I ever realized, like, why everyone kind of like stops and stares when they walk in and I was like, what is this? And I realized it's because they're freakishly tall.
em:Yeah, I definitely you know, because obviously we're paying closer attention for the podcast. So, yeah, I really feel like I clocked that for the first time, like, oh yeah, like they're. They're formidable and intimidating in their own way. They've been playing volleyball, they have the height and they even the teammates even say it like they're. They were beyond expectations, yeah, but they don't. Well, tanaka especially doesn't really like them because why? They're bitches?
rainbow:Yes, Well, and Suga says like you don't again reading him. Well, you don't really like anyone at first.
em:But Tanaka has a right, because late into the night, when Kagehina are practicing, we officially meet Tsukushima and Yamaguchi mean gays TM yeah.
rainbow:The meanest of gays both of them to. We're going to have to have long conversations about Yamaguchi and how he is not much nicer than Tsukishima.
em:No, I know, he's just quieter. He's just quieter. I yeah, he's the. He's the popular girls BFF.
rainbow:I literally have. Yamaguchi is the Gretchen Wieners to Tsukis, regina George.
em:Absolutely A hundred percent. I wrote Yamaguchi is Tsukishima's toadie, which I don't know if you know that reference, but it's from a Christmas story where the bully has his little sidekick and the and the kid the narrator is like every bully has a toadie and Yamaguchi is the fucking toadie.
rainbow:A hundred percent, just in the background, constantly dick writing and hyping Tsukishima up to the point where I think he natas like oh my gosh, how tall are you guys? And Yamaguchi comes in and it is all like proud, like Tsukishima is like six one, and even Tsukishima is like Yamaguchi. What's the point in bragging about my height? And then Yamaguchi is like right, sorry, yeah.
em:Take the dick out of your mouth, yamaguchi. He simply will not be. So Tsuki comes in with a lot of energy for Kageyama, specifically to the point where, actually my very early on, I was like do I ship this because you are definitely obsessed with?
rainbow:Kageyama it literally in a world where Hinata and Yamaguchi aren't there, like Tsuki Kageyama have a toxic love relationship.
em:I understand where the Tsuki Kageyama people come from.
rainbow:Yeah, it makes sense, but it's just. It's like well, no, that wouldn't work, well, it wouldn't be good, it wouldn't be healthy, but at least not in my eyes. Also, I love because Tsukishima keeps like riling Kageyama up. He keeps like mentioning that he's the king and like Kageyama is just getting more and more angry at him and it is even like like Tsukishima is like because he has this very aloof. I don't really care about this. This is just a club, it's just a game attitude which, honestly, the very first time I watched it I didn't really clock that and so on rewatches. That's really when you start to see, like, how they're like building Tsukishima's character so much and how this is all very much like setting up things that won't really be resolved for a little while.
em:So for now you just think that Suki hates trying yeah.
rainbow:You think that he really just doesn't care very much. But he keeps, like you know, I think he says something of like oh, I mean we could just throw the game if it matters that much to you, if you want to win that bad.
em:Oh, I love Kageyama's reaction with the fire and he's like no matter what you do, I'm going to win anyway.
rainbow:And then Tsukishima is just so unbothered, which, in my opinion, is the best way to react to people Like if you, if somebody is like getting so mad at you, the best possible thing is just like yeah, I don't really give a fuck about what you're saying to me, and nothing you say can hurt me, and Tsuki knows that because he has a degree in fucking with people.
rainbow:Oh my, I yeah, and at future episodes we get to talk more, because Tsukishima does not give a fuck. He will say anything to anyone. He has, like no respect for anybody, except maybe Yamaguchi. Yeah, barely.
em:And his first senpai is for sure. Yeah, Like you could see the kind of begrudging respect, especially for Suga and stuff like that.
rainbow:but we'll get into that later.
em:But yeah, so yeah, he just comes at them with a lot of energy and then he gives us a little bit of backstory about this King nickname that he's like. You know, I saw that game, the one where Kageyama's teammates turn on him, and we haven't gotten there yet in the show, but we kind of get that hint that, um, his, his tosses were so ridiculous and demanding that they finally turned their back on him and this really rattles Kageyama.
rainbow:I mean, obviously, the way he's been reacting to the nickname so far, but you can tell how much this really affects him, yeah, and he the shirt grab moment where he like grabs Tsukishima's shirt and he's just so angry in his eyes or on narrowed, and then Tsukishima is just like still unbothered, with that little smirk. That is a homoerotically charged moment.
em:Absolutely. And the way that Yamaguchi well, yamaguchi is like Tsuki and then Hinata is like the, the boyfriends are just like watching this go down, like what's going to happen, like what's?
rainbow:yeah, and Hinata is literally like cause he has that like fear of Kageyama, Like he thinks of Kageyama as scary. So when Tsukishima like won't let up about the King stuff, Hinata is like it's your funeral man, Like I don't know what you're talking about and then Yamaguchi and Hinata would absolutely get into a.
em:My boyfriend can beat up your boyfriend argument.
rainbow:I'm surprised that doesn't actually happen. We should actually keep our eyes out. I bet there's like a low key moment where they're like a little bit comparing, um.
rainbow:But yeah, I also have written here that Hinata wants Kageyama to stand up for himself. Like he recognizes it's I think it's a part of his emotional intelligence again, where he recognizes that, like Kageyama isn't reacting the way he usually does, some things like wrong here this is pushing a button. And he is like why aren't you, why aren't you fighting back? Why are again pushing him? He's like you don't fucking lay down and take this. Like you fight back against this.
rainbow:And then Kageyama is like you know, I think the anger ultimately probably comes from hurt, which we'll talk about it a little bit more in later episodes but like I think he's very hurt by what Tsukishima is saying, but it just comes out as anger. And so he's like come on, we're going to go. Like well, let's go, let's get out of here. And Hinata is like no, we're not done practicing, we're going to keep practicing. Because now Hinata is fired up and he's like we have to beat those motherfuckers. I hate that tall guy. And of course we haven't talked about yet how Hinata does his jump and grabs the ball from Tsukishima's hand.
em:And let me tell you this is not the first, but not the last time that Hinata will jump really high and also defend his boyfriend.
rainbow:Yeah literally. And I love this face Tsukishima makes, where he's like what the fuck, are you an alien? He's like, how did you? Just because Tsukishima is literally being like like an immature asshole about it. He's like holding the ball above his head. He's such a bully.
em:He's such a cunt. I remember I was watching this, I was trying to get my friend to watch this and we got like halfway through season one and I will never forget. When Tsuki first arrives, she goes who's this queen? Literally, he's just an old queen who's over it.
rainbow:He's so cunt-y, Just like everything about him is just like I am giving cunt 100%.
em:Thank God, when you realize why and what his backstory is, it's just like really. But I can't wait to get into that.
rainbow:We'll talk about it In the other zone we have a lot to talk about with Tsukishima. I did want to say I feel like Hinata, because Hinata does that thing where, like, everyone's paying attention to Kageyama, tsukishima like just will not stop talking about Kageyama and him being the king.
rainbow:Osuma, osuma Urasai yes, I'm here too. And then Hinata jumps in and is like I'm here too and I can fly and I'm going to beat you because I need to have all of the attention on me all of the time. But he gets more of a reaction out of Tsukishima than Kageyama does, because Kageyama is just being like he's just reacting to Tsukishima in anger, but Tsukishima does not like that. Hinata is so like brazen and he stands up to him really.
rainbow:Yeah, he stands up to him. But also I think it's specifically the way that he's, like we're going to win, like this game means a lot to me. I think that, like his passion seems to annoy him, his baseless confidence irks several people in this show, and Tsukishima is one of the first.
rainbow:Yes, but then I think it's very key that after Tsukishima and Yamaguchi leave, tsukishima is like walking ahead and is so angry, like his nose is all pinched up and he's like I hate guys like that, I hate guys who want to try so hard. And Yamaguchi is like why are you so pissed about? This and so I think that's very interesting. And that's not something again, not something I really paid attention to the first time I watched it, but on a rewatch you're like oh shit.
em:Okay, I think Yamaguchi and Tsukishima's friendship is so interesting. It kind of reminds me of my toxic high school homoerotic friendship a little bit, where they're just like clearly codependent and Tsukishima's not even really very nice to Yamaguchi we can get into that more later, I guess, because we really only get a hint of it. But like Yamaguchi is just such a little toadie Like, even after they leave he's like Johnny, like okay, girl, yes, Ridiculous. So I wanted to. I forgot to put a poll on Twitter because when I was watching this episode and I was like what is what do we think Tsukishima is listening to all the time, because he always has those headphones on.
rainbow:I actually want to do a series of polls for the podcast, where I ask first what do you think Tsukishima is listening to Like music, podcast, audio books, porn. Yeah, audio porn, like what do we think he's listening to and then like, depending on the answer to that, okay, like, if he's listening to music, what kind of like? I want to really get into the nitty gritty of like, what do we think?
em:Is he? Is he an EDM guy? Is he Mac Demarco? Is he Mitski? I mean, what are we listening to?
rainbow:Yeah, so we yeah, we will be putting a poll out when this episode drops.
rainbow:So, if you're listening to this episode right now, the day it drops, go check our Twitter. We'll probably leave the poll up for a couple of days so people have a chance to vote, but I really want to know, and then, whenever we have all our results, we'll do a little housekeeping segment on it. Oh, I did want to mention one more thing before we move on, which is that Hinata in the dub calls Tsuki Yama major league. But wads, oh my God, and I'm kind of obsessed with that. I love that. That's such a 15 year old boy thing to be, and especially Hinata, because you know, hinata doesn't curse. We haven't really gotten into that yet, but Hinata does not like, like.
rainbow:You know how he words, I guess yeah, he doesn't like, he doesn't like to be vulgar, but he's like those we're gonna, we're gonna beat those major league, but what?
em:Yeah, I really want to know who made up the dub lines.
rainbow:Oh, I love it. Yeah. So then after that night, the next morning we cut to Hinata and Kageyama passing in the gym and Tanaka comes in and is like whoa, how long have they been doing this? And Suga's already there and he's like, at least for the 15 minutes I've been here, yeah. So who knows how long they were actually doing that? And they keep going. The ball hasn't touched the floor yet.
em:Hinata has market. We are now you know it's been a week and he has definitely Improved, which is really impressive when you think about it. Like in in the future of the show, they point out how receiving is not something that you can learn overnight. It does take time and practice.
rainbow:So the fact that he's improved so markedly is Impressive and actually before we even get to that, that part where we see them passing to each other, we see a little montage of Hinata working hard. We see him biking over the mountain to get to school every day. We see him going for the ball time and time again. We see him practicing with Suga at lunch, even in the rain. They're like practice.
rainbow:He's like showing him proper form, like under the little cover, like he Hinata's dedicated and you see Kageyama Seeing this you see Kageyama taking note of this and then the morning, that morning when Hinata's on the way to school, he stops and watches the Sun rising over the mountain, which I just think is really beautiful imagery. Yes, yes, absolutely like it is. It's oh, it's so perfect, it's such perfect imagery. Especially, we're doing a character spotlight on Kageyama this episode and we're gonna get into his name and that's just gonna make even more sense and I'm very excited for that. Um, so, yeah, so we see that's the morning. Uh, you know, hinata sees the Sun rising over the mountain and then it cuts to them in the gym practicing, and I think even Kageyama thinks in his head like, oh he, like he couldn't have Received a ball that was going that fast before, like he's improved so much in just a week, and I think it kind of pisses Kageyama off a little bit. He's like what the fuck do you mean? You're already this good.
em:Well, I think it's another instance of Kageyama not wanting to believe it. Because, it's funny, suga is kind of saying this to Tanaka and Kageyama is thinking In his head about how Hinata's athletic proud prowess makes up for his unskilled Clumsiness. And then he's like but, and then he hits it really hard because he's just like I think he doesn't want to get sucked In like it's too good to be true and he's like you know, you might be naturally gifted, but it takes practice and blah, blah, blah a lot of really really be good well and I, what happens is Kageyama is Saying like okay, we should take.
rainbow:He's about to say we should take a break and Hinata says no, the ball hasn't hit the floor yet, which is another instance we see this a lot where Hinata practices like he is in a game, yes, like Hinata is going which, oh, I can't wait. Way ahead in season four we have another character. We can talk about where that like applies. But so Hinata says like no, the ball hasn't hit the ground yet. And so Kageyama feels challenged. Yeah, because Kageyama was ready, he was like we should take a break, which honestly they should have at that point. But then Hinata challenges and he says okay, and then he hits the ball really hard and it goes too far and Tanaka and Suga Like there's no way Hinata's gonna be able to get that.
rainbow:And then, but then I think Suga is like kind of narrating it and I think maybe even Kageyama in his head are talking about he has the will to take that extra last step and so he gets that, he receives the ball, he's like on the floor, and then Kageyama Sees it and he's like and he does, he tosses for him, he tosses the ball up and Suga and Tanaka are like it's great that he tossed for him, but there's no way he knit has gonna spike that. Oh wait, he's already in the air spiking the ball with the big smile on his face, and he's so excited oh my god, it's so great.
em:Yeah, and Suga says he thinks that meant something extra to Hinata and we're reminded again about how badly he wants a real teammate. And this is really the first real step of them accepting each other as teammates absolutely.
rainbow:Like I said earlier, this episode is about Kageyama learning to believe in and trust Hinata. And then and oh I forgot to mention this when they are having their little argument with Tsuki Yama at night, kageyama says it doesn't matter if you try or not, I'm still going to win. And Hinata says, hey, you mean we're going to win, yes, and then after Hinata spikes the ball, he's like on the floor like gasping for breath and Kageyama says, hey, tomorrow We'll win, we will win, and I love that. And then they have like a moment of prolonged eye contact where Kageyama has to look away and Look away and then just walk away awkwardly yes, which?
em:I wrote like in my notes it was just like in the sub Kageyama, basically just like tomorrow we win, and then he just kind of stares at him and then he goes and walks away. You are gay, like that is just game one. But Kageyama really is like they're just aggressive friends. Yes, like they are friends, just in their very Aggressive way and I would say they're not quite friends yet.
rainbow:No, this is still the like, the very, this is kind of the beginning of when you realize that they can be friends and we can talk about because I, they are, they're, they're best friends.
em:Even like the way that, like you know, racing to the club room together, like like just the fact that Kageyama, like they would absolutely miss each other, I think, but they're too busy being rivals to understand how much they really give to each other.
rainbow:Yes, yeah, absolutely. And then, after Kageyama walks away, hinata throws up from overexertion and the animation of him Puking is so funny. I actually like pause it to continue taking notes. And I pause it because it like shows, like the lump in his throat and his cheeks feeling.
rainbow:I like pause it where the lump was in his throat and I was like this is hilarious, I'm gonna, I'll try to like take a screenshot of it or something and post it, because it was so Funny. It's so. You don't see him through it, you don't see the throat, which is great. I hate like you just hear the noises but you don't actually have to see anything come out, which is always gross. I hate when they do that in movies. We don't need to talk about pitch perfect you know the scene.
em:Kageyama has absolutely run him ragged, but that's what Hinata needs and what he wants.
rainbow:He literally Kageyama was like we should take a break. And he just does, like no, we're gonna keep going. And then they do, and yeah. And then the next morning Kageyama is calmly walking to the gym and then he hears the huffing and puffing of Hinata behind him and Hinata races by because it's just an unspoken rule that they they're going to the same place, they're racing there, yeah. And Kageyama is like hey, I'm gonna beat you. And then it's a tie. We find out Mm-hmm. And then to knock is like why? He's like you're such idiots, why are you wearing yourselves out right before the game?
em:Because they become absolutely one-track minded when it comes to each other yes.
rainbow:And then the episode ends with them kind of facing off again with Tsukishima and Yamaguchi. And I was just thinking in this episode, again like the Sun Rising over the mountain imagery where, like Kageyama is like the first mountain or the first wall that Hinata has to overcome and he has at this point, like he is like earned enough of Kageyama's respect when it comes to volleyball that Kageyama will spike to him and now he has to get over the mountain of Tsukiyama Because they have to be them. Well, I guess not really, they don't have to beat them to be allowed to play again, but they have to beat them for Kageyama to be the setter to be the setter.
rainbow:And Hinata, I think deep down, wants Kageyama to be his setter because he thinks he's so cool and he's so strong and he's so fast. It's like they both understand that, like they are going to work amazing together on some deep level, but they, they don't really recognize that. And also, hinata just wants to win. Like Hinata, it actually doesn't matter if he gets anything out of it. He wants to win the game he wants to play, he wants that glory, he wants to overcome that tall, tall wall that is Tsukishima exactly. And so, yeah, I think that's the end.
rainbow:Yeah, that's where the episode ends, yeah, and then I don't really have a lot of sub versus dub thoughts for this one. I think I kind of all had it in there. And Then the only thing from the manga that I noticed that I wanted to touch on, that I guess you kind of see in the anime. I just think sometimes with manga it is nice having, like you can have little thought bubbles. And so, towards the beginning, when Suga and Hinata are practicing at lunch and he, kageyama, over here, is them, like he has a thought, like wow, they're practicing during lunch, or maybe even like he's practicing during lunch, like he's surprised that Hinata is practicing during lunch, and then as he's listening and even as he's walking away from Suga and Hinata, he has a little thought bubble with just like the ellipses, the dot dot, dot, and I thought that's so interesting.
rainbow:Like he's clearly thinking about this and ruminating on it, and then that's what leads him to the decision. And so I like that in the manga you really get to see that like he is thinking of it. But again, because it's Kageyama and he it's like a lot of his side of the story is like in the shadows, it's like overshadowed by everything that's going on with Hinata, so you don't get to actually see his thoughts, you just know he's thinking about and then you see the results, which is he then goes to find a place for Hinata and him to practice. All right, are we ready? And move on to our character spot.
em:Oh, my favorite, my baby boy, my son.
rainbow:Oh, yes, okay. So today we are talking about Kageyama Tobio, and I pulled from the Haikyuu wiki. I kind of paraphrased a few lines here about him that I think really sum up His personality and his, his thoughts and the way he is misunderstood.
rainbow:So perpetually sullen, arrogant and undeniably short-tempered, kakeyama originally came off as a typical overbearing profession, perfectionist on Benoist, to the majority of his schoolmates and acquaintances. However, he is much more sensitive and childish than he appears to be. He simply does not know how to control his frustration and hence Expresses his thoughts and emotions in an inappropriate way. Despite his inability to properly socialize, he sincerely wishes to do his best and is extremely passionate and dedicated when it comes to volleyball, to the point where he gets overly excited About nearly every successful move. He pulls off with Hinata and that, yeah, that's a quote from the wiki and I just think that's so true. Like perpetually sullen and Ergant he is, he is very arrogant. He just has to learn how to like, control his emotions and express his emotions properly, and I just I love him. And he is like the. He's more sensitive and childish than he appears, which is so true. He's just a.
em:He's just a sweet little boy who loves volleyball mm-hmm, and part of his journey is kind of finding the balance which is something that I really relate to of Knowing that he's really good and that he has control of the team and and all that, but also not being a jerk about it.
rainbow:Yes, like being assertive but not a jerk, and that's a lesson he kind of has to learn repeatedly. Which is good. Storytelling most, most lessons, take a while to learn. Hinata also has to learn his lessons repeatedly, so well we'll talk more about those moments when Kagayama has to overcome his arrogance.
em:Yeah, I was saying on Twitter not too long ago, there is Kagayama and then there is Tobio. So Kagayama is that, like the king, he's the intense, you know, arrogant Dictator. And then there's Tobio, who has his wobbly little smile when he gets excited about being on the court and Just a little meow, meow. Yeah, he is just a little meow meow, okay.
rainbow:So I did want to do his name breakdown because I love these. So for his family name, kagayama. So Kage means shadow, reflection or trace of former self Used independently, and again, this is the kanji Kage which is in his name. So there's Kage, and then there's Yama and Kage Independently. Its most common meaning is shadow, which is so fun when you think about Hinata being the light and Kagema being the shadow. They complement each other. And then Yama means mountain, and it's found in many Japanese family names, and so his last name, his family name, together translates to shadow mountain, which we talked about earlier, the Sun rising over the mountain. He knew to kind of overcoming Kageyama. It's fucking good, it's so good. And then his given name is Tobio, as we said, and Toby is to fly, which is the same kanji. That's on Karasuno's banner, which I think is cool. And then the oh is just male, it's just like an oh, it's just like a male.
em:Gendered and yeah, well doesn't, tobio also?
rainbow:mean flying fish. So it's. That's actually a pun. I looked it up because I remember them making that and it's spelled differently, it's like. So his name is spelled T O B I O, but then which means? Which translates to flying man?
em:basically.
rainbow:But then T O B I think it was T O B, I O U or I you oh, is Tobio it? So it sounds similar, but it's not quite the same and it means flying fish. So when we get to that part in the anime I'll go deeper into that, because I thought that too. I was like wait, doesn't his name also mean flying fish? And then I googled it and it's just like a slightly different spelling, because Hikyu is very punny. I do loves a pun, which I'm not mad about, because I fucking love a pun. So yeah, so I love you know. So shadow mountain flying man.
em:There's a great Kageyama study fanfic called the fish who swallowed the sun that I recommend.
rainbow:Oh yeah, have I read that one, I don't know.
rainbow:I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna. The fish who swallowed the sun? I probably have, but I'm gonna look it up. I also have Kageyama's little character sheets from the manga, which I love. It's got him standing very angrily Holding a volleyball by his side, and his position is setter. As we know, his height is 511, his birthday is December 22nd. His favorite food is pork curry with slow cooked eggs, which I love. That both of their favorite foods contain egg I didn't realize that, but they do and then his current worry is that he thinks animals don't like him.
em:Again, he's a soft boy.
rainbow:He's just a soft boy. He's probably never had a pet, he's probably. I think there is like maybe a little like manga extra out there, a little sketch of him like trying to pet a cat and then the cat like scratches him, probably cuz he's just got a mean face, and then so his stats on the five point scale His speed, his power and his jumping are all fours and his technique, his stamina and his intelligent are all fives. But there's a little asterisk next to intelligence that says Note the intelligence parameter on this scale refers solely to intelligence in regards to the game of volleyball. It has no bearing on normal academic performance whatsoever. And I wrote wow, what a read.
em:Oh yeah, like don't, don't worry, he's a dumb jock. Yeah, they're like don't, he's a volleyball savant.
rainbow:Yeah, don't, don't get us wrong here. Kageyama is stupid, so yeah. So let's just. Let's just talk a minute about Kageyama. What do you love about him? What drew you to him? Why is he your favorite?
em:Oh, my god. Well, if we were gonna, I should have written down my essay before. And Um, yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I just like the way he struggles socially. I relate to a lot and just the way that he's so he is misunderstood. He also, like on a surface level, is just my favorite kind of character design. Um, angry, dark-haired and gay. Angry, dark-haired and gay. I love. Yeah, I do have a type when it comes to like my favorite anime characters and it's usually gay, mean and like extremely skilled. Ie see Levi, um see Ipaka go like anyone who is prickly with a gooey center and is good at what they do. Come on, bring it on now.
rainbow:One day I'm going to force her to watch select episodes of Naruto, and I'm excited to see if she falls in love with Sasuke or if I've poisoned her into agreeing with me that he's just a bit too much of a jerk.
em:Well see, the thing is with me is that I like jerks, so that doesn't bother me.
rainbow:That's why she's with me.
em:Huh, that's why you're with me. But see, that doesn't. Yeah, you're not a jerk, you're my sunshine. Yeah, but that's different, like what you want and and oh, this is an important lesson that some people don't realize what you want in real life is usually different from what you want in your fiction.
rainbow:Yeah, absolutely, and I think sometimes I think maybe the reason you love those characters so much is not so much because if they were real people you would want to date them Um, if they were like the same age as you and everything, but like because maybe you more identify with them. Yes, absolutely, and I don't really like to project on them like that's why I like Hinata, because he is the sunshine and he's this go getter and he's like tiny and underestimated and I really like identify with that. We can talk about timescape Hinata and Some other time, some other time. But yeah, I do identify with his character. So I get that. And I love Kageyama.
rainbow:I think I mentioned in an earlier episode that it wasn't really until season two that I started to warm up to him and I was still kind of very reserved with my feelings towards Kageyama. I was like I don't know how I feel about you, but then by the time we got to season two, I really did fall in love with him and now, even going back and rewatching and I'm like, oh, you just are a sweet little meow meow and I love you. He's just an awkward dork. He really is. He's just an awkward. He's not even like a jock, necessarily Like he's a jock in that he like loves volleyball, but he's like a nerd about it.
em:Yes, absolutely.
rainbow:He's like a nerd about volleyball. It's so weird. It's like that episode of Bobbysburgers where they're at the museum and Tina and Henry are like we're all nerds about something.
em:Yes, I'm a nerd for horses? Yeah, definitely that's the case with Kageyama.
rainbow:Yeah, kageyama is a nerd for volleyball and we love it. All right, so I think we're ready to go into the spoiler zone. Yeah, what are we talking about? Well, I just want to give everyone a warning. You know we're going into the spoiler zone. If you don't want to be spoiled, skip ahead. We'll have the time stamps. Don't spoiler me, don't spoil me. We'll have the timestamps in the discussion. So, if you want to skip ahead, we are doing another Who in Haikyuu session?
em:And you won't want to miss that.
rainbow:Yeah, if you want to skip ahead to that and then, like, hear the end of the episode, go ahead. But if you don't care about being spoiled or you already know what's going to happen, come with us into the spoiler zone. All right, wee woo, all right. Okay, so I don't think you have any notes for here, but do you have thoughts that you want to share, or do you want to go off my notes?
em:I mean, if we're talking about spoilers zone is like time skip stuff mainly, or stuff that we haven't gotten to yet in the show.
rainbow:Yeah, yeah.
rainbow:So I, yeah, I've got a few things here, if you want we can, I can kind of bring stuff up and then we can discuss it, because I took a few notes, like when I was reading about Kageyama's name and the translation being for his last name being shadow mountain, it really really made me think of Ushijima, because in season three there's so much mountain imagery there where, like Ushijima is this mountain that all of Corosso has to climb and like overcome, and so I think that's just like another connection between Ushijima and Kageyama and how like related they are.
rainbow:And, of course, like this is a spoiler zone, so we can talk about the fact that Ushijima and Kageyama play on the same pro league team as adults they both play on the Adlers and how they're very much like. It's like Ushijima and Kageyama are like paired together. And then Hinata and Oikawa are paired together and, like Kageyama have a very different relationship than Ushiioi but still like they have that like rivalry, whereas I would say like Ushijima and Oikawa almost have a toxic rivalry that like maybe leads to Oikawa like having feelings that he doesn't need to have about himself and about other players, whereas Kageyama and Hinata their rivalry, I think is very healthy for them and really pushes them.
em:It pushes them to be better. Yes, absolutely yeah. No, I think they they fill in the gaps for each other a lot.
rainbow:Totally so. I thought that was interesting, that the mountain, the whole mountain thing, and I'm very excited to get to Ushijima and learn about his name and, you know, see if there's any kind of mountain associations with him. I also, every time Hinata talks about loving Kageyama's nickname, it makes me think of season four, when he crowns him as the king. Like, hinata has never thought that it's a problem that Kageyama is the king of the court and he is like you. He's like why don't you own this? Like I love it. It's kind of like deep cut for anyone who's ever watched the tick.
rainbow:There's a character who everyone calls Miss Lint because her power is like electrical power, but that means that like like Lint, like sticks to her and she has to wear these like grounding bracelets and so like her kind of her early origin story is like this, like big villain guy is like is kind of her mentor and is like why do you let them like bully you? Like that, like take it, like take this nickname and you make them fear you because of it. And so I think that's kind of Hinata's attitude towards Kageyama is like you should own this, this is a cool nickname. Like you should be the king of the court. It's amazing, but Hinata doesn't know yet the story behind the name, which he will learn very soon.
rainbow:Also, this happens so often where Yamaguchi mentions that Hinata is practicing in a t-shirt. When they're out late at night, like Yamaguchi and Hinata, or Yamaguchi and Tsukishima, are both in their like uniforms, with their jackets on. Kageyama has a sweater on, but Hinata is wearing a t-shirt, because Hinata doesn't know about personal maintenance and he doesn't know how to take care of himself and it's not good to be sweating to like get really, really hot when you're in the cold like that. Like you do need to stay like bundled up.
em:Yeah, that is pretty crazy that by episode three we're already kind of getting a hint of how Hinata doesn't really take care of himself.
rainbow:Yes, it's so good, it's so well crafted. Oh, I did mention like in a way, kageyama gets so sucked into Hinata's orbit that he forgets about personal maintenance sometimes. Yeah, like I think that's interesting and that's a big theme. Is like Kageyama kind of being sucked into Hinata?
em:Yes, he gets pulled. He like almost tosses to him when he doesn't mean to and that's gay, it's very gay.
rainbow:But then also again like the personal maintenance thing. It's like it's that thing where, like because Kageyama isn't like trying to be a teacher for Hinata in any way which I think we could talk a little bit about the prototype with that and that like Kageyama isn't trying to like mold Hinata into like what he thinks he should be as a volleyball player, he kind of just like lets Hinata like learn his lessons as he needs to, which I think is the most effective. Like in my experience, you can't tell somebody, like you can try, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. And I don't think Kageyama is like consciously aware of that?
rainbow:Well, he's not Hinata's mommy, you know, or his daddy, as much as Hinata tries to make him toss to me, father, oh really. So another thing, going back to Hinata, or not Hinata, but Kageyama's name, where part of his, the Kage and his name could also mean trace of one's former self, which I think is fascinating again when you think about season four and how, like he is still the king, he maintains his kingliness.
rainbow:He just learns how to own it in a respectful, non arrogant, non toxic way, so I thought that was very interesting, that that was also part of it, and I don't know how much of that was intentional or how much of that is coincidental, but I really like that. Do you have anything else you want to add for the spoiler? Oh, we haven't talked about Tsukishima in the spoiler zone and we absolutely have to.
em:Um, yeah, I mean, like this isn't two spoilers Zoni, like we get to his background, but not until season two.
rainbow:Yeah, I know, but I think I think we can talk about it a little bit, how it connects to here, because we can talk about it again when we get to that episode. But I do want to just touch on the fact that we see Tsukishima is so angry about Hinata and how, and Hinata and Kageyama and how, like go gung ho, they are about it and it's because of his brother and how his brother tried too hard. It's I actually we're, yeah, we're going to need to dig deep into that because it's a little bit like this is why yours like it's, it's so fucking cunty and gay of Tsukishima to just be so dramatic about it. He just he's like, well, I have to go in the exact it's very teenager of him to be like well, I watched my brother be too excited and then not get to play, so I have to pretend like I don't care, so it won't hurt me if I don't get to play or if I lose. That it's, it's a defense mechanism. He's trying to protect himself, but yet it's so clear that it does still affect him.
rainbow:Yeah, very much, okay, everybody. Uh, we are. I'm going to make a cute little noise. Every time Just vague sound effects every time.
rainbow:Yeah, listen, if people don't like it, they can write in and they can tell us, but I'm going to keep doing it until that happens. So we are back out of the spoiler zone and we are going into our who in the Haikyuu scenario. And because this episode is dropping the Monday before the new live action avatar, the last airbender series, premieres on Netflix, I wanted to talk about and ignore the fact that it sounds horrible.
rainbow:Yeah, I do want to mention like I think I probably will watch it because I do want to support the many Asian and native actors who were cast and I think that's great, except for Sokka being a white dude, and I do want to like support. I do want to see those performances.
em:I'm still curious, like it's too bad. I wish they would kind of just stop stop telling us what you changed. Yes, because I'm setting expectations very badly. It's like show me what you did.
rainbow:I mean, I honestly think they need to stop taking animation things and making them live action, because all they're doing is just using CGI, which is basically just still animation. Yeah, and they're making it live action and it just it's. It just doesn't translate as well to me and I just don't understand why. And it's also just part of the like, reboot culture of like. Well, we know this IP is successful, so we're going to use it to keep making money instead of making new unique art. But I do.
rainbow:I love Avatar the Last Airbender. We talked about it, I think, way back in episode zero. How, like Avatar led directly to you watching Haikyuu and it's just. I could do a whole fucking podcast on that show, Although there is a an official Avatar the Last Airbender podcast hosted by Dante Bosco, who's the voice of Zuko, and Janet Varney, who is the voice of Korra, and so that's a really good podcast.
rainbow:Just a little recommendation corner here Rainbow recommends it's called Braving the Elements and they have they get, like you know, actors from the show. Like it's official, it's produced by Nickelodeon, but it's also like they openly talk about shipping and they talk about queer shipping. So it's really cool and the hosts are just really fun. So if you like Avatar the Last Airbender, definitely I would say check out that podcast. That podcast existing means I don't feel the need to make my own Avatar the Last Airbender podcast, but I love that show and we love that. And so far a little who and Haikyuu scenario we're going to talk about and we're just focusing on the characters that were in this episode. So Hinata, Kageyama, Daichi, Suga, Tanaka, Tsukishima and Yamaguchi we're not even going to bring in the other three characters because we haven't learned their names yet the other three Karasano players who I think we at least see their faces in this episode.
em:Yes.
rainbow:OK, but we're not going to talk about them, but we're just going to focus on these few characters, and I want to talk about what nation they would be a part of if they would be a bender and, if so, what kind of bender they would be.
em:OK.
rainbow:So do you want to do? You want to start? Well?
em:we'll start with Hinata, and this I feel obvious, but I really I mean Hinata and Aang, I feel like have a lot in common with their main character, energy and their playful vibes and I just feel like, and especially with the way that Hinata flies, I think it makes a lot of sense for him to be an airbender and I mean I'm going to make all of them, but he was just definitely an airbender for me.
rainbow:I think so too, and but I think he would struggle with like the nomad lifestyle a little bit. Yeah, I think that would be. I think that would be hard for him. But I do agree, airbender, like the flying and everything, I could also see if we were really going to like, do like an AU, I could see Hinata being like a nonbender and then getting like airbender powers in. Oh, you haven't watched Quora, yes, I have. Oh you have. Ok, never mind, why did I think you didn't anyway? But like when all of that, when the airbenders come back in I think it's season three of Quora I could see Hinata being like boomie and becoming an airbender. Yeah, and that I think that would be really fun. But I definitely think like Air Nation, I think. I think with his intensity, I think you could maybe, if you did, if you didn't want to put him in airbender, I think you could maybe put him as a firebender. But I think airbender just makes more sense for him.
em:Yeah, Well, that brings me to Kageyama, who I think I would give him fire. I almost want to give him water, but I think that's just because of the deep blue of his eyes. But I think, with his determination and ambition, I have to give him fire.
rainbow:And also Zuko. Season one is basically just Kageyama season one, angry all the time yeah. And Kageyama would look really good with a scar like that.
em:Yeah, he'd look really cool, but I don't look good in red.
rainbow:I don't want his father to burn his not the same backstory. No, I don't want the same backstory. But yeah, I could see him definitely being a firebender. He gives me more like Maki from Quora vibes, very much just like angry firebender. Yeah, all the time. Ok, and then Daichi is an earthbender.
em:OK, good, we're on the same page. Dependable solid.
rainbow:Dependable, solid, like. I feel like there is also, just like you know, in this, I think, there's a lot of like earth related imagery with Daichi anyway in the show, like in Haikyuu. So I just think it makes sense for him to be like a strong, not like Toph. He would not be a Toph style earthbender.
em:No I think?
rainbow:yeah, he would definitely be. I don't even know if there's anyone in this from Avatar. The Last Airbender that I would say Daichi would be, but he would just be an earthbender. Suga, Suga, yeah. What do we think of Suga? Would Suga be a bender?
em:We could argue that he wouldn't be, but if he was, I think I would give him water. I think he's adaptable in the way that and we haven't gotten to this yet, but I think we can talk about it where, like, he's pretty gracious about letting Kageyama, as a first year, be their main setter and he's really like a big, like the glue that can keep the team together. I think he's really good with, like the teammates and stuff like that. So for those reasons I'd give him water, I think.
rainbow:Yeah, he kind of. He has major Katara vibes. Yes, I think even if he wasn't a bender, I think he'd still be from the water tribe. You know, I could see him being one of, like the warriors. Yeah, I totally agree with that, all right.
em:Tanaka, not a bender, not a, he's a non bender, he's our Sokka, as we said earlier.
rainbow:He's just the average guy. Yeah, what tribe is he from? Or what village, what nation is he from?
em:I kind of want to say water in a way.
rainbow:I think so too. Northern water tribe specifically, I could see him being from the Northern water tribe. Ok, why? I just I see that. I just see him being like again one of those warriors, like a non bender warrior, I don't know. I guess I could also see him being from the Southern tribe because they're the more like. You know, they've been neglected by their sister tribe and they've been like really like, because they're closer to the Fire Nation, they were like more like destroyed by them.
em:And even though he's not a bender, he would bring his own version of strength to the table.
rainbow:Absa fucking Lulee, he totally would. So, yeah, I could see him being water. I could see him. Yeah, I think you could also. I think if he was going to be a bender though I think he'd be a fire bender I could see that. I think I could see.
em:Yeah, I think it's hard with Avatar the Last Airbender because, like the Fire Nation is like so much like the bad guys quote unquote you got to put that out here you got to think about because like especially I mean Iroh has that whole great talk about the elements and it's also very in line with astrology not to birdwalk too much. So I really try and think of that's like the characteristics of fire, not so much that they're the bad guys or whatever, and especially like I think water kind of gets like a reputation of like being the motherly one or whatever, but like again like I think that's just the emotionally intelligent one and the adaptable one. Yeah, absolutely.
rainbow:And meanwhile, water to me is like the most intense element. Yep, it is because it is capable of that, that gentleness. But it's also capable of great destruction. It's great, yeah. I mean, the Grand Canyon was created over like thousands of years by like a river rushing through it Like water is fucking amazing. It's very cool. So, yeah, I could see Tanaka being water or fire, but definitely, and again, like nonbender, though he gives major nonbender energy. All right, Tsukishima.
em:Tsuki and Yam are kind of hard for me. A part of me almost wants to say nonbender, but I don't know. And then I think for Tsuki he'd either be like the opposite of Tanaka, where he would either be air or earth, because he's that unbothered king.
rainbow:But I think he would not like. I think he would be a bender but he would not lean into the bending, he wouldn't care about it, he wouldn't want it, he wouldn't really want to like practice or anything. I don't think he would. He would really. I don't, I don't. It wouldn't be like his focus. I think he'd want to focus on other things. I can also see him being just like a scholar from bossing, say. I think you see, I could see him being like a scholar who lives in bossing say, who like technically is an earth bender but is like I don't give a fuck, you know what he?
em:he's kind of like a tough in a way, where the whole. Thing about how he only trusts. Well, I guess this is the opposite of top. But he only trusts what his eyes give him, but top only trusts, like, what her feet tell her, and I don't know. Just something about their attitudes kind of remind me of each other a little bit.
rainbow:No, I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I totally get that. Yeah, so I could see him being an earth bender, I think, less an air bender. I think more earth makes more sense for him yeah because he's like, stubborn in his own way. Yes, very much, for sure, all right. And then our little Yamaguchi. This is a hard one. I feel like he'd be a non bender.
em:Not. Yeah, I'm feeling non bender, and I don't know if it's just because I know he's a Scorpio, but I kind of want to give him water.
rainbow:I kind of see that I also. I just feel like you have to say he's an earth bender though, so he and Tsuki can be together and be friends.
em:Well is Yamaguchi the water that terraforms oh my God.
rainbow:You're fucking right. You're so right. No, you're right. Yamaguchi is a water bender. He's from the water tribe, but he's in north or south. I think north because of his attitude.
em:Yeah, yeah, because he's a mean gay.
rainbow:All the mean gays live in the northern water, we know that Obviously. Oh, and then you know what? I didn't even mention Kiyoko. We don't see her in this episode, but we have met her and I don't want to leave her out, as the anime often does, yeah. So what do you think about Kiyoko? I could see her being a healer from the water tribe. Yeah, I could see that for her.
rainbow:Or I could see her as an aeronomad. Yeah, that too. I think the calm energy of her just feels very like. She doesn't have this silliness, but a lot of them don't.
em:That was really an ang. Thing.
rainbow:Yeah, that's true, that was an ang thing. Ang and Gyatsu, yeah, very much the silly ones, but I could see her being like a wise aeronomad who was like really like shed herself of like earthly possessions and material materialism and everything. I could see that for her. All right, I'm happy with that. I think that's it. I think that's it for who and how cute and I think that's it for our episode, unless we have anything else we need to talk about.
em:I mean, I think we're good. Do you guys think we're doing a good job? We'll wait, thank you, oh my gosh. I agree, not the like blue's clues moment. What was your favorite part? Mine too.
rainbow:That's Dora. No, I love it. I. We again, we want to know how we're doing. This is the last episode we're recording before we start actually posting episodes. That's right, because we don't know if we've let you all in on the fact that we are recording like a few weeks in advance.
em:We've definitely made it. We have Okay good.
rainbow:So, yeah, this is our first episode. This is our last episode that we're recording before we start actually posting episodes and hearing feedback from people. So if you haven't done that already, like please, rate, review, subscribe. You can hit us up on social media flyhq pod. F L Y H Q P O D. Find us on Twitter, Instagram, tumblr, blue sky. You can write in. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can write in. You can either DMS on any of those apps or you can Well, not on blue sky Email us to right, Huh.
em:They can email us.
rainbow:Yes, they can email us. Flyhq pod at gmail dot com. Again, that's f l y h q p o d at gmailcom. We really want to hear from you. We're excited about the possibility of listener engagement. We actually just went to a live podcast show for a podcast I like to listen to and I don't know if we'll ever do live shows, but it just like I love the parasocial relationship between podcasters and listeners. I would love to do a live show.
em:I do have one episode End of episode shout out to do. Do you have any others? I do not have any. So this episode shout out is going to be to my brother, jack, who, god bless, called me the other day to wish rainbow a happy birthday because her birthday was February 1st, by the way. And then he was like can I be on your podcast to talk about? And he then he named anime men I've never heard of. I was like sure, buddy, and I told him I would do a little shout out. So this is for you, jack, if you ever actually listen to this. God bless.
rainbow:Yes, we love you, Jack, and thank you for your birthday wishes. Yes, I think that's it. Like I said, great review, subscribe and we'll see you next time and be a better friend than Tsukishima is to Yamaguchi. Yes, and be nicer to people who are learning that Kageyama is to hinata. We'll see you next week.
em:folks, bye, bye.