Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast

Episode Five: A Coward's Anxiety - S1E5

March 04, 2024
Episode Five: A Coward's Anxiety - S1E5
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Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
Episode Five: A Coward's Anxiety - S1E5
Mar 04, 2024

"Blurgh"

Ever been so nervous you threw up on your senpai's lap? Gross.

This week, rainbow and em cover season 1, episode 5 'A Coward's Anxiety' and discuss Hinata's anxiety spiral, the helpful and not so helpful advice he receives, and what sports we think the characters would play if volleyball didn't exist.

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"Blurgh"

Ever been so nervous you threw up on your senpai's lap? Gross.

This week, rainbow and em cover season 1, episode 5 'A Coward's Anxiety' and discuss Hinata's anxiety spiral, the helpful and not so helpful advice he receives, and what sports we think the characters would play if volleyball didn't exist.

01:06:14 - Spoiler Zone Begins'
 
Podcast Socials:
twitter
bluesky
instagram
tumblr

Send us an email! flyhqpod@gmail.com

Transcript available on our website, if not included in your podcast app: https://flyhqpod.buzzsprout.com

If you have the means, please consider donating to
Palestine Children's Relief Fund
Doctors without Borders
Pious Projects - donating period products to Gaza
International Rescue Committee
UNRWA for Palestine Refugees

Non-monetary ways to help:
Click to Help through arab.org
BDS Boycott List
Shut It Down 4 Palestine - find protests and actions in the United States
Jewish Voices for Peace
Decolonize Palestine - educate yourself

If you don't have the means to donate money or supplies or are unable to attend protests, please raise awareness about the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by sharing on social media and boycotting companies based on the BDS boycott list (linked above).

rainbow:

Hello everyone and welcome to Fly a queer, Haikyuu podcast. I'm Rainbow and I'm Em how you doing today Em.

em:

I'm doing pretty good. Actually, that's a lie. I've been really angry the last couple days. What?

rainbow:

What are you angry about?

em:

I'm PMsing and I'm having my angry days and also I think I need to. I took TikTok off of my main pages but I still search for it and watch it anyway, and it's getting to that point where it's like maybe I don't need other people's opinions all the time in my ear.

rainbow:

Yeah, so, in case you all aren't aware, em and I live together and, to be fair, I didn't notice you were very angry.

em:

It's okay, I keep it deep here and then one day I'll die.

rainbow:

That's not healthy. I mean, I'm just saying you don't take it out on me when you're angry, which is nice, but I also don't want you to repress your feelings. No, no.

em:

It's not so much angry, it's more just like I'm just irritable. I get more annoyed at things than I normally would and I'm like you need to calm down. And that's when I check my Period Tracker app and see that it's due in a few days and it all makes sense.

rainbow:

You're like oh, I get it, I see, I see.

em:

All right, how have you been doing?

rainbow:

I've been doing pretty good. Work's been really busy, lots of projects coming up. Got like three events in two days.

em:

And we are going next week. We are going to visit your family. Yeah, we're going to the going down south to the To redacted so that no one stalks us.

rainbow:

Yeah, to redacted, but you know it's the Bible Belt.

em:

Yeah, and we're going to the east coast and this will be my first time meeting your family.

rainbow:

Yeah, yeah, well, I think it's going to be good. We're all pretty excited. My dad was very cute. He was like because we're going to stay at an Airbnb but we'll be going over to my dad's house a lot. And he was like oh well, you know, we'll go like we'll do a grocery shop and we'll pick some stuff up and make sure we have stuff that everybody likes. And he mentioned like oh, if I get any fish, maybe we can do fish tacos. Do you think em would be into that? And I was like I was like oh, you know, I mean, she might. She really likes chicken. Maybe have that as a backup in case she's not into the fish. And he was like oh, I do these really good, like chicken tender tacos, so she can have one of those. You didn't tell me about that? Yeah, I'm just telling him about this now. So, yeah, but my parents are being pretty cute about it.

em:

Yeah, we're excited Big big things coming up, but yeah, so we're excited to talk about episode five today.

rainbow:

Episode five a coward's anxiety.

em:

So anxious. But oh, before we, I forgot I wanted to talk about. Should we talk about that? Talk about the shipping thing.

rainbow:

Yeah, yeah, let's do housekeeping before we get into like our episode recap or anything.

em:

Yes, Okay, I'm just driving us forward into the wall, take it from here, mommy.

rainbow:

Okay, yeah. So we've got some housekeeping stuff to talk about. So first I want to say. Earlier I was listening to episode two after em finished the rough cut, and I was talking about Shoyo's name, in the character spotlight, and I was talking about like his name endings being like male or female, and I was talking about it in a very binary way, which was the way it was presented to me. But listening back I was like, well, you know, it doesn't really represent what I think of like gender and stuff.

rainbow:

and I just like I was trying to do some research into, like you know, our like, how are gender norms changing in Japan? Cause, like you know, there are queer people in Japan who are like fighting for rights and social acceptance and stuff, and I've I've read some things that have like some mangas that have characters who are trans or non binary or just like gender non conforming in general, and I couldn't really find anything. But I'm very curious about like, how like, and about other languages that have like female and male, like name endings and like how that's being like adapted and like evolving with like changing gender norms, and unfortunately, I couldn't find any information about that. I can definitely do like more research into it, but just after a cursory glance I didn't find anything. But I did come across an article talking about okay, so this is an article from Amnesty International from October 25th 2023.

rainbow:

And it says, in Japan, transgender rights, progress as court rules, surgery not required for legal gender change, which is pretty awesome. That's like a big thing with trans rights is some some in some states in the United States and in some countries you have to have surgery in order to do like a legal gender or legal name change, which is ridiculous because surgery is really expensive, and can be dangerous, and some people don't actually want surgery in order to transition. So I think it's cool that Japan has ruled this. Hopefully, that will not be ruled back at all I'm not sure how Japan courts work, but so I just wanted to take a moment and highlight that and celebrate that cause. That's pretty awesome.

em:

Yeah, we don't. We don't ever want to get too heteronormative. We gotta keep an eye on ourselves.

rainbow:

Yeah, absolutely, uh, the or gender norm.

em:

I should say yeah.

rainbow:

Yeah, Heteronormative, gender normative, normative. Baby, take it out of here we don't want to be neurotypical we don't want to be gender typical.

rainbow:

We don't want to be any of the typicals or the normatives. Yeah, and you know this is a queer podcast and trans people fall under that queer umbrella, so we wanted to celebrate that. Yeah, all right. And then I also wanted to touch on the social media aspect of this podcast. We're really finding all of our engagement on Twitter, so I think that's really where we're going to be doing stuff.

rainbow:

We're going to do, you know, we might do polls. We'll do episode, episode posts when episode comes out. We're going to do all of that on Twitter. We're going to keep the other social medias, just cause we already have them and we might as well. But if you are a listener and you are using other social medias DMS, uh, let us know. Like, if you're on Instagram, you're on Tumblr, you're on Blue Sky, if those are the only places where you interact with us and you want to still see those episode posts, just let me know. It's not a big deal, to do it. It just felt like kind of a waste of time because it seemed like we weren't getting any. Like you know, I was getting like zero notes on Tumblr, like nothing on the Instagram and like Blue Sky is so.

rainbow:

I think, it's out of the beta zone. I think anyone can join now. Uh, I just saw that recently. I could be wrong. Don't, don't quote me on that.

em:

But you know, twitter is just the main, yeah.

rainbow:

Twitter is the one. Twitter is where all of our our friends are, all of our peeps.

rainbow:

So we're going to stick with that. But, like I said, you know, feel free to reach out to us, you know, on any of our social media sites if you're already following us on there, or send us an email. Fly hq pod at gmail dot com and we'll talk more about social media and how to reach us at the end of the show. But before we get out of our housekeeping section, I believe em has something she wants to talk about.

em:

Yeah, so there was like quote unquote, like shipwread drama on Twitter the past day or two and I don't even want to get super into like the specific situation, uh, cause I feel bad for that poor account that like doesn't even have that many followers. But they like made they. They basically were like you are always mid and everyone freaked the fuck out and I just like it. I was just thinking about shipwars in general and like why they happen, why people get so crazy about like their ships and what random strangers on the internet think about them, especially like someone who is seasoned Like I've been in fandom warfare since 2010 ish, and I used to get really wrapped up in it and blah, blah, blah.

em:

But even back then I would still kind of just troll about it cause it's just so like silly. But I really I have just like this theory that I just feel like people really like the world, people really identify themselves with the ship or with like certain characters and it like almost becomes a part of their identity. I think you can see this in like stan culture and like in religion and in politics. Like, as soon as you make something like who you are, then you're going to take it personally when someone misinterprets or like or just not even missing, but it has a different opinion from you.

rainbow:

I think that's the important thing to think about when it comes to fandoms is these are all people's opinions. Like it's art, it is subjective. People read things differently and you come to characters or ships for your own personal reasons and I, you know, and I understand people take it personally. you know, like I get that.

rainbow:

But then to like turn on that person and to be like you know, to like be kind of attacking them because I've had an apparently an unpopular opinion about a character before, that really like a lot of people kind of like jumped on and were quote retweeting and in my replies, and it was just like I was just like why is this such a big deal? like it's just, this is my personal like read of this character. This is my personal interpretation. Like I'm not attacking any, like real person. I'm not saying if you like this character, you're bad for liking them, but I just I just think people like they get upset and I think there is something to the fact that the internet does have this anonymity to it where, like, oh you know, if you were talking in a room with people, you'd be less likely to scream in their face that like you were wrong about you, aoi.

rainbow:

But when you're on the internet and you don't like see the person and you can't see their reaction or like no, if you're hurting their feelings or not, it's easier to just be like you're stupid in this sucks, whatever. It's easy to be like mean to somebody about it, and and it is just like I try to stay away from stuff. When that did happen to me, I was like I stayed pretty calm, like you know, I don't think people could see that, but I was just kind of questioning. I was like why is this such a big deal to you? There was even one person who, like I, like I, we kind of had a little bit of a back and forth, but I was like but this is just my opinion like why is it such a big deal to you?

rainbow:

Like I didn't mean to offend you and if it does offend you so much, like why not just ignore it? Why? Why not like just block me and move on? And they were like I'm not offended by it, I'm just like tired of this silly discourse. I think it's ridiculous that like this is being brought up again and I'm like, well, if it's so silly and tired, why are you engaging in it? I was like, why are why? Why not just? Why are you engaging by quote, retweeting and replying like why not just leave it alone?

rainbow:

like I said and then they did not reply to that and I was like good, I don't want you to keep replying to this.

em:

I want to be able to have opinions about characters without getting like crucified for it just punching the air, fighting for your life for this person that does not exist.

rainbow:

Yeah, it's like that person, like it's not gonna, it's that person, that character is still going to exist and like I think it's totally get passionate about things.

em:

It's it's great, but, like when it turns into a negative, it's like I think we all need to take a really deep breath and maybe get some sunshine on our face and remember that this is not that deep, and especially like in the Haikyuu fandom specifically, I feel like if you come for any of like, I want to call it like the big three, whether it's Iwaoi, sakuatsu or Kagehina you know, they all have pretty intense fan bases and they all have, like, their idea of what the ship is and how they should act.

em:

And yeah, when opinion circulates that might go against the grain, like people just lose their minds, and it's like I just like to have fun with it and I I I'm afraid of getting in trouble with people because I just want to like play, argue about it sometimes, but it's just not that deep ever yeah, and like we're not trying to come from any like position of superiority here, like in any way.

rainbow:

like we get, I get. Like we both get very passionate about things as well. I just think sometimes people like take their passion and it turns into a weapon and they're not thinking about, like, how they're interacting with another person. And again, like, for me, a big part of it is that these are fictional characters and the fictional characters can't be hurt by this person's opinion, but what you say to that person because of their opinion can be hurtful and.

rainbow:

I just think that's something we should all remember, not even just in fandom, but just being on the internet in general and just interacting with people in the world and you will have more fun if you don't take things so seriously, like just just a little advice from someone who's been around the block, that's all yeah, I just like, just like fandom is so beautiful and it's so wonderful and haikyu in particular, I think, is a really beautiful fandom.

rainbow:

I think there are certain things that are found in, like other anime fandoms that are a little bit more toxic and annoying, that I think aren't as prevalent in haikyuu, and I just think we should keep fandom like a nice safe place for people to have opinions and it's okay for those opinions to differ.

em:

It's supposed to be fun yes, like how volleyball is supposed to be fun and we're bringing it back. We're here to talk about it, baby.

rainbow:

Yeah don't be, don't be a kageyama yelling at your team members to go faster. Be a hinata and be saying don't mind when people make mistakes. Yes, there we go.

em:

Wow, look at that, we're so wise, brilliant all right, let's, let's jump in now that we've alienated.

rainbow:

A few people listen with our opinions no, all right, so it's time for me to do my recap, okay, so, em, will you count me down? Three, two, one go, all right. So we're still in that three on three practice match, and kagehina are slowly but surely getting used to the freak quick. The freak quick. Kageyama has learned to pinpoint his sets for hinata and suga even comments on the fact that hinata is very patient because he got hit in the ball. He got hit in the face more than once with the ball, while kageyama was trying to figure out how to sync up to him. and tsukishima, actually gets into the game and he takes his sweatshirt off. but that's still not enough, because hinata and kageyama are amazing. But hey, guess who else is amazing? Tanaka, who's also on their team, and tsuki shima is so sure that the ball's gonna keep going to hinata that he jumps to block hinata. But what it's going to tanaka? And tanaka scores the final point, and then he's a little too extra about it and he takes the shirt off, and nobody likes that, and so hinata and kageyama have won their three on three and they can join the team, and they try to shake tsuki shima's hand, and tsuki shima does not want to. And it is. It's pretty funny.

rainbow:

So kageyama and hinata are about to practice again when who should show up? But takada, wait, who is this adult with this curly hair? I thought he was also a teenager when he first showed up, but it turns out he no, he's a teacher, and he's also their coach, and their advisor, and he has set up a practice match for them with aoba jousai, which, uh, kageyama doesn't seem too happy about that and hinata is super excited about his first practice match. But because of some of the things his teammates say to him, he realizes wow, this is actually kind of scary, and he gets very, very nervous. Kageyama is not helpful whatsoever. kageyama tells oh, a big thing about the practice match is that kageyama has to be the center. That's the only way that they, this other team, will play with them.

rainbow:

and kageyama doesn't actually like that. He tells suga, no, I want to earn my place. from now on, I don't want to be picked just because of who I am. I want to earn it. You're, you're my senior, and kageyama seems to really appreciate that. and so then the episode ends with them on the bus ride to their practice match and hinata, who couldn't get much sleep the night before, throws up on tanaka's lap and it's truly hilarious and and very good. Thank you, you're welcome. I really wasn't sure, uh, how well I was gonna do that. full transparency here. I took uh 50 milligram gummy last night when I got home from work and by the time I was watching the episode I was like I might be a little too high for this. But I can do it.

em:

But I'm pretty proud of myself for remembering all that I was gonna say that was very helpful for me, because I too had a gummy, and we might not do that again, because yeah, it was a bad idea, don't remember.

rainbow:

And just so much like, because I was like, oh, it's such a long week, I like I even popped the 50 milligram gummy and em was like whoa, you're doing all of it. And I was like I sure am, and you know, I probably should have sat down and done my haikyuu homework right then and there before it kicked in so hard. but that's okay, I we're not stoned while we record the episode, so that's good, we would never do that well maybe a bonus episode?

rainbow:

well, yeah, we would yeah, we do like a bonus episode where we're stoned and we're talking, talking about haikyuu, but we would never do that with a regular episode because it wouldn't be fun for anyone. Yeah, so yeah, I hope everyone liked that recap. Good recap, and I think we're ready to get into the episode yeah, so, as you said, we we opened the episode with.

em:

You know kageyama still like trying to pinpoint. You know his, his tosses precisely, and he's doing a good job. And I love what suga you know suga's watching and he's noting how, like hinata is getting better with every single time they try it, and he says we're seeing kageyama's true abilities as a setter, but the one who pulled it all out of him was hinata because this show is going to reiterate again and again, and again and again how their soulmates?

rainbow:

yes, I have. Uh, I said, hinata brings out kageyama's best setting rivalry and love, because, that's what it is.

rainbow:

Yes, it's because they're in love, they're fated to be together, but it's also because, like kageyama's like I won't he refuses to lose to anyone, but especially to hinata. And if hinata can go that fast to spike that ball, then you bet your ass, kageyama's gonna set that fast and that accurately, so hinata can spike it kageyama's just never had a partner that could actually like meet him where he is truly before, and so it's just kind of an incredible thing to see absolutely.

rainbow:

I love it. and then then tanaka. I think tsuki shima talked shit to them, right? Is that what happened? No, I think, I think they, just they win that first set and tanaka is just very braggy about it, very brag well, because he says something, like he's saying something, and then hinata's in the background like yeah, what he said and yeah, go ahead and try it's very cute because hinata loves to back tanaka up from behind him from a distance from a distance from directly behind him.

rainbow:

and it's just very cute, yeah. And then he takes his shirt off and everyone's like what are you doing?

em:

and they're like you're not even the one that's scoring the most points exactly one of them even like in the dub one of them.

rainbow:

He says keep your clothes on, and I just love that, yeah.

em:

They also know how tsukishima's team lacks conviction and that's why they're not quite measuring up. All those tsukki's definitely getting frustrated. He takes his sweater off because he's getting serious about it.

rainbow:

Yes, yes, he is. Two things I noticed during this little beginning part where they're finishing up the game. there's like an official ref there. I don't think I'd noticed him last time. They're like no, no, I swear there is. Hang on pause. I have the episode up. We're going to scroll back and look because I believe you.

rainbow:

No, yeah, because it's not. I don't recognize him as any of like. He's not like one of the three extra team members whose names we still have not learned yet in the show. I think there must just be like people available for like these kinds of like practice games, and I guess they said they do like the, the three on threes with the new, the new first years anyway, so maybe that's just they always have that set up like, oh, whenever we start a new school year, we have like a ref come and do an official little practice match, just between us.

em:

Yeah.

rainbow:

Unless I'm wrong, somebody correct me if you're like no, actually that's Narita or something and he just looks weird. But it looks like a grown adult who's an official ref. It was really weird. Also, we get to see Kageyama do a setter dump.

em:

Yes, In this, which I appreciate it.

rainbow:

They don't really like they don't call it out yet because we're still just now getting into like, oh, this is where we need to start explaining the sport. Yes, I think right now we're still just kind of like seeing things happen without any explanation, but we do get to see his cute little setter dump.

em:

Yes, and I think this is also Suga who like is watching them and just comments like they both look or no. I think they may all be discussing that they look like Kageyama look exhausted but they look like they're also having fun. Yes, and Daiichi says, the two of them bring out the best of each other.

rainbow:

Well, and there's this really cool imagery of like the shadow and light where, like they're like this, the screen is like cut in half and like it's Kageyama side is all shadowy and Hinata side is all light and it's just like oh, I just love there, like they compliment each other and they are light and darkness.

em:

Yes, and so they win the game. And what's adorable is Saka goes to Daiichi and Suga and they're like, and he was like, did you know that was going to happen?

rainbow:

Yeah, in the in the dub. He's like are you guys telekinetic or something? Oh my God. And they're like. And they're like no, we're not psychic like Suga's like because like Daiichi was the one who was like if they work together they'll be good, and Daiichi is like I thought it was going to be like 10 plus 10 equals 20, not 10 times 10 equals 100. Yeah, they were.

em:

They're both like even we were not prepared for that level of homosexuality. Actually, no one could have seen that one coming.

rainbow:

No, no one could have got yeah, suga's, like Suga's like I just said that Kageyama should try to give Hinata the spike that he can hit. I didn't tell him to give him a pinpoint, accurate, fucking set.

em:

Oh my God, yeah, so they win. And I was. I was giggling because Hinata goes to shake tsukki's hand and I was stoned and I at first I was like, oh you know what, this is something that I this is another reason I like Hinata, like he's a good team player. And then I remember he's only doing that because it says to sukki if we don't, I have the exact same reaction. Did you really? I had in my.

rainbow:

I had to. Yeah, I did delete it in my notes. I had originally like oh, hinata is such a good teammate trying to say, to say to shake tsukis hima's hand. And then he, but then like, even while he's trying to, because then he goes way too hard, and it's like OK, this is not polite anymore, hinata. He's like no, you don't understand, we're not good teammates, will get kicked off the team. But that's not really what happened with him and Kagayama.

em:

And it's just like, and this, this will come up on Kagayama side more at the end of the episode, but it's just so funny how they don't realize how intense they are when they get around each other. Because, yeah, like and tsukki points out, he's like you guys got in trouble because you've gotten a fight knocked off. The principles, wig Like. It's not just about being good teammates, buddy, yeah, it's because you guys go way too hard.

rainbow:

tsukis hima is like that would never be me, because I'm not passionate enough to fight you that hard.

em:

Yeah, so there's just they're so, they're so ridiculous, they're so stupid. I love them.

rainbow:

Yeah, but then this is where Daichi comes up and calls tsukis hima out for caring, and tsukis hima is like no, no, no, I'm not.

em:

I would never care. No, Daichi has tsukki's number from like day one.

rainbow:

He knows what's up? Yes, I love it. I just love his little smile because he knows. He knows what he's doing.

em:

You like Krabby Patties, don't you Squidward? Yes, yes.

rainbow:

Big old smile. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I have here the Daichi sees tsukis hima's drive because he does. And then Kyoko comes in with a box and what is in this box?

em:

It's the team uniforms, baby. It's their track jackets, and they all put them on. And tsukki doesn't want to, but the Senpai's all gently bully him into doing it, which I just love Like the older brother. Energy is there from the get go.

rainbow:

Very awesome.

em:

And yeah, they're just. They're all adorable, they have their jackets on and they all look like a real team.

rainbow:

They're just so cute and I really love like Hinata is so excited. He's got like a little, he's got a blush, he's blushing and his eyes are shining and he's just so excited and it's like I love, you know, because Hinata is the light and he's more bright and he's more loud about things, so he's like making all these noises like oh, he's like so excited. But then, like you can see, kageyama right next to him has like a little wobbly smile on his face and he's also got a little blush and he you can tell he's just as excited. But because he's Kageyama, he's not being as loud.

em:

It's a lot more reserved, for sure he's more reserved about it and it's so cute.

rainbow:

And then they all put them on and Hinata is being such a little showoff in his he's like dancing around like everyone else is just standing there and Hinata is like look at how cool I look in my jacket.

em:

And I love this is another like moment that I really appreciated fully for the first time during this rewatch. Also, side note, like I'm just enjoying falling in love with Hikyu again for the millionth time, but just all over again. But, like you know, Daichi kind of says to because him and Kiyoko and Suga are the third years as of right now. We have one more coming. But you know they really they're just such Sunpais and Daichi kind of says to them like all right, I'm glad that that all worked out, Like kind of his plan to make them work together. And then Suga and Kiyoko like kind of pat him on the shoulder and like good job, Like we did our jobs as seniors Well.

rainbow:

I guess that's the thing is because he's saying to them. He's telling Suga like oh, I'm thank you, I'm glad you and Tanaka worked with them, and Suga is trying to be like we didn't do that, but, like Daichi knows, he's known from the beginning that they've been helping, yeah. So he's thinking Suga. And then he's thinking Kiyoko for, like, getting the jackets together and like, like really thinking her for just doing her job. And then they both like think him because Daichi, which Daichi? You're so real for this.

rainbow:

And I understand he's like, well, no, I have to think everybody else. It's everybody else who's doing these amazing things. I'm not doing it, it's everyone else. And so they're really like they're giving him his flowers and they're like Daichi, this was like you were a big part of it.

rainbow:

He was, he's the leader, and we just can talk so much about Daichi and what a good leader he is. And that's part of it, cause he's like no, no, it's like it's a team effort and it's like no, but Daichi, you are a part of that team and you're a big part, like if he hadn't pushed them, if he hadn't like given them that ultimatum of like you either learn to work together or you're not on the team which is a risk because you know they don't know Kagehina at that point and they could have just been like, well, fuck this, yeah, I yeah, I think it was, it was a gamble, but I mean I think Daichi had yeah some pretty good educated gamble, it was very yeah, it was an educated gamble, for sure, and it it worked out, as Daichi said, like 10 times better than he could have imagined.

em:

And then here comes, voiced by the same Japanese VA as Levi. I just had to point that out because Levi is the love of my life and and I do love like clocking the voices in in the subs because there seems to be about 10 to 15 people working in the industry and all of them are in IQ. But anyway, he comes and he's our adorable English teacher.

rainbow:

I just love him so much, he's so adorable. I literally wrote as soon as he came in I said talk it on all caps, I love him. Yeah, I mentioned in my recap like I was very confused about who he was when he first showed up. I was like, cause he like he looks kind of young, like he looks like he could just be like one of the third year. So I was like, oh, is this just like another manager guy? Then I was like, oh, that's a teacher, oh, that's the coach. Oh, daichi is not the coach. Yes, yeah, yeah.

em:

I always forget that talk. It is technically the coach. Of course they have to have like a teacher attached to this club, and then he says right away, like you know, he doesn't know anything about volleyball, but that doesn't matter because, unlike the previous coach, when and we'll get to that later when Carasino was was, you know, fallen crows and they weren't hot anymore, they had a teacher who didn't really give a shit. But Takada does and he is working really hard for them and advocating for them and it pays off because he comes to them with a practice match opportunity.

rainbow:

Yes, yes, he comes to them because uh Abajosai, another school in Miyagi, has asked for a practice match with Carasino.

em:

But they have one stipulation yes, kageyama must be the setter.

rainbow:

Yes, and you see, even before the thing about Kageyama being the setter, you see Kageyama's reaction and you can tell like oh, he knows what he knows what that school is, he knows people on that team, he knows who wants him. What now? He knows who really wants him.

em:

Oh my goodness, yeah, we're getting close, folks, we're getting all the, you, all the way Girlie's ears just perked up yeah, we're getting there, baby we're.

rainbow:

Yeah, we're getting real close, and I can't wait to get into more of like just talking about that. Like, how are you, did the coaches agree to that? Like the coaches were like, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll do whatever you want, oikawa.

em:

Basically, when we get to that episode, he you know, I don't think this is a spoiler zone worthy, it's only a few episodes ahead. But, like Oikawa and boy, when I tell you I struggle with this boy's name Oikawa Shows up late and the cat and the coach, I think says to him like you know, we're doing this because of you, because you asked for your weird little rival ex-boyfriend, but anyway, that that's for, yeah, that's for a couple yeah, that's for like two episodes in the future.

rainbow:

But all we know right now watching this is that kakayama is not excited about this and Hina to says cuz. Hina to knows what's up with the, with the Standing of the teams in Miyagi. He's like they're one of the four top schools in the whole prefecture, like he's so. He's like at first, he's so excited to play them and like he's like excited for like a real practice match against another team. Like unit has never been in a practice match. He's literally played now two volleyball games. Yeah.

em:

We have to talk about because they're the Sun. The Sunpais are like wow, how did you get this practice match? Did you have to beg? And this is where I really come to a crossroads, ladies and gentlemen, and they them's where I how pervy can I get on this podcast? Because you're gonna look me in the eye and say that you usually are good at getting on your knees and begging and I'm supposed to just Not react to that. He, yeah, he literally says oh, I'm very good at begging yeah.

em:

in the dub he's like I am good at begging, and then in the sub it's like I'm usually very good at getting on my knees and begging. Talk to you, fucking slut. Open your mouth.

rainbow:

This is an explicit podcast, so, and it's not just because we use dirty words, but also because we're gonna talk about talking about as An object an object. Yes, well, all characters are objects.

em:

That's very true, but, yeah, it's so, it's so funny such an out-of-pocket line and we couldn't just skip over it.

rainbow:

It's just like, what are you talking about? And maybe there is some sort of like cultural significance to like, like getting on your knees. I think there is.

em:

It does show like some sort of level of like, respect and like how badly you want it. But you know us horny assholes are gonna.

rainbow:

Horny Americans are like, oh, wait a minute. And just like the way he says it, though. It's just like, oh, I'm really good at begging. It's like, okay, honey, the luckily that goes over all of the high schoolers heads, because that would be inappropriate.

em:

But oh boy, I wrote in my notes like pause, suss. He didn't have to say all that now. So you know they want so over, over, wants Kageyama. And Tanaka, as always, is very offended on Suga's behalf, but Suga is very gracious about it, and this is what I really love about Suga as a senpai is he doesn't have an ego about things he's being and it makes sense, like he's like no, like I want to see what Kageyama and Hinata can do in a proper match, and like he just has a really good attitude about it. It makes sense for him, as a third year, to more concentrate on paving the way for the first years, especially when they obviously have such a promising crop of first years. So I mean, suga could so easily be a dick about it and block him. Be like no, this is my last year and I'm gonna be a shitter, but like no, and that selflessness is going to help them tenfold.

rainbow:

Well, and it's one of those things I think Suga obviously recognizes. He's like, well, I'm not, he probably doesn't even want to play in college, like he's not gonna go pro, like I think he recognizes. I think anyone who's spent more than five seconds on a volleyball court with Kageyama knows that Kageyama is going to, you know, try to be a fucking olympic, olympic athlete if he can. And I think Suga, I think as soon as Kageyama like do their first, like quick freak together, I think Suga recognizes that Kageyama has to be the setter. He and Hinata need to be on that court together. That's how we're going to win. And so because he's so quick to say like, okay, yes, kageyama can be the setter in this practice match, I think he knows, I think he sees it Immediately that that's what's going to happen.

rainbow:

And, like you said, because he is a good senpai and he knows that's what's best for the team, and I think we could get into a little bit here about how, like that makes sense for him, as, like Suga mama, like a lot of people call him, like the mom of the team, and like, and you know, I, I, I Think we could get into, we don't get it, have to get into it too deep here, but I think that is kind of something that is expected of mothers is to like, you know, like in the Barbie movie, mothers stand still so our daughters can see how far we've come.

rainbow:

And you know, in this case, because it's a volleyball team, it's like, well, that is what needs to happen, because there can only be one setter on the court. But that is like that is like kind of a motherly thing to do. And you know it, you know I, japan and the United States, both like very patriarchal Societies where it is like expected for like mothers to make sacrifices, like that's the ideas that, like women are better at sacrificing Mothers are better at sacrificing their lives to raise their children. And Suga is fully prepared to sacrifice his third year as a setter playing with his team, his his little boyfriend Daichi.

rainbow:

Yeah and his other friends like he's willing to sacrifice that for the team Because he, like the rest of them, want to get to nationals and like just to even get away from the gendered of it all.

em:

It's like that's just a good move, as like a parent or as someone who you know, just an elder making Making room for the young generation, unlike American politicians.

rainbow:

Another conversation, yeah that's something I, that's something where, like Collectivist culture, I think can be very helpful is the idea that like every generation, is responsible for helping.

em:

The incoming one? Yeah, the incoming one. And I said I'd be instead of being enemies for some reason.

rainbow:

Exactly and I think it goes back to what the conversation we had. I can't I think an episode like two or three about like the Senpai Kohai relationship and Just how, how helpful that is in the long run and how good that is that like building Something that can be strong and you know, later we do get to learn a little bit about Daichi and Suga, senpai, mm-hmm, and I think that'll be an interesting conversation to have and like, how, like, do we see the seeds of that in those Senpai?

rainbow:

Oh, yeah, for sure. So I think it'll be. That'll be a fun, long running conversation and we can, we will talk way more about Suga.

em:

Later on and then on the other end of that with the Kohai. So, you know, we cut now to After practice and the boys are walking home from school and Kageyama rushes to catch up to Suga and he tells them, like you know, I know this time they want me because of who I am, but I am going to earn my place from now on. And Suga's like surprised at this, he's like I didn't think he really cared about me. And Kageyama says, oh wait, I wrote it directly and I like what he said. You can't make up for a lack of experience that easily.

em:

Lesson of the day. I think that's just such a banger line because, like you know, the whole like respect your elders thing can get misconstrued to like bow down to asshole old people. But there is something to be said about, like Honoring and respecting the fact that, like Suga has been doing this for longer than you and he does like and we'll see it later on like, of course, kageyama is incredibly talented, but Suga also has his own strengths to bring to the table and that is, I think, the big difference that makes Kageyama Confident but not cocky. He is not any more confident. Like he doesn't give himself more than an inch of what he deserves, because if he was cocky he wouldn't he wouldn't be saying all of this.

rainbow:

So I just I like this moment a lot between them well, because Kageyama Understands something about volleyball and sports in general and, really, just like any kind of Thing that you do, anything that you have to learn, it's that it's never about raw talent. Raw talent is only going to take you so far Experiences. Just as important like it takes practice and it takes dedication, and he sees immediately that Suga is dedicated to his team and is willing to practice. He saw how much Suga was willing to help Hinata.

em:

Yeah.

rainbow:

You know Suga was also there at those morning practices helping them out and, like Kageyama, has so much respect for him. Like I think Suga, kageyama is my favorite platonic ship of the show. I love, I just really love there I love their, their, their, like you know, upper-classmen, underclassmen, relationship.

rainbow:

I like to think that, like, they become like good friends when they're adult, when they're out of high school, and they no longer have that hierarchy, I like to imagine that they, like, I like to think that Kageyama like still calls Suga for advice on things and I actually wrote here I I was stoned, so like when I thought of this. I was like this is the most genius thought ever, but it's definitely been thought before. But so I think that Suga is exactly what Kageyama needs a setter Whose team trusts him, yeah, and Daichi is exactly what Hinata needs a wingspiker who's also really good at receiving. I'm screaming, that is smart.

rainbow:

I just like just kind of hit me because like Daichi is this like amazing receiver and he's a wingspiker and he's this like great leader that like people are willing to follow. And I think Hinata has a lot of those same qualities, but he has to learn the receiving and he kind of has to learn, you know how to how to really use that charisma to like lead others, whereas Kageyama is like he has the skills that he needs but he doesn't have the emotional intelligence. I think that's what it is. Suga has the emotional intelligence.

em:

Yes.

rainbow:

That Kageyama needs and Daichi has the skills that Hinata needs, and I thought that was really cool and I think it's just so perfect that they were to end up at Karasano, where they had these upperclassmen, who are Exactly what they need them to be.

em:

And right after the conversation that they have outside of the shop.

rainbow:

Oh, there's one thing that happens while they're outside of the shop, uh-huh.

em:

Are you?

rainbow:

about to mention UK.

em:

Even before that. I'll get into a little headcanon moment, if I may. Yes, always.

rainbow:

That's what this podcast is for.

em:

Yes, so I just like. So Hinata and Tanaka run up to them and Hinata has his bike and obviously he bikes. It's a 30 minute bike ride to school and I had a little like fanfic idea moment while I was watching this episode and anyone can feel free to steal this, I might make a little thread of it but I like to think that one day, maybe in second or third year, hinata's bike breaks down and it, like you know, he has to maybe leave for school a whole lot earlier and like it starts to maybe affect practice Maybe he's really tired and then, once it affects practice, of course, then the next morning Kageyama is at his door bright and early on his own bike and also carrying, like his sister's old bike, and then that could be how Hinata finds out that Kageyama has an older sister.

rainbow:

I love that. I think that's great. Yeah, something like maybe Hinata, like maybe he doesn't even like affect practice and like Hinata gets tired, but maybe like he starts having to take the bus in and the bus is like late sometimes and it has to affect practice, some way to get Kageyama to care, because I really believe that, like the friendship and love is there but like those teenage boys, like volleyball needs to be the push to get them to like actually connect as just like friends and people.

em:

So yeah, just a little head cannon for the kids, but not yet. So now we meet Yukai for the first time and we don't know him yet, but he's just like the shop owner.

rainbow:

Yeah, they always go there's like a I think it's a Konebini, like a convenience store, and so like they always go there for like meat buns and stuff after practice, and so they're like outside talking and I think that's a big thing. Hinata runs down and is like Daichi is going to get food for all of us, because that's like a big thing, is like the up for the Simpai is getting treats for the, the Kohai after practice or like after like a good game or something like that. And so like they're going to buy like meat buns and Yukai says to them like hey, save some room for dinner.

rainbow:

He's already getting on that proper meal he's already getting on it and so that's like the first thing that he says to them and I just love him and he's like always coming out and like I love it because, like you don't know Well, I guess you know if you watch the intro you see him, so you know eventually he's going to be more involved, but like right now he's just like some guy who like yells at them.

em:

Yeah.

rainbow:

You have no idea like what he's going, how involved he's going to be in the show.

em:

Yeah, and he's like volleyball club. Stop making a ruckus outside the store, and that's when Hinata is like that's right, we are volleyball club, we're all on the same team, bitch.

rainbow:

He's so excited. Okay, so they have to prepare for their practice match, so they have to figure out what the starting lineup is going to be, and I think it's Daichi that tells Hinata and Kageyama that they were going to have to, like they're going to be paired together.

em:

Yeah Well, so before, even like Daichi asks Kageyama for his opinion on the lineup.

rainbow:

Oh yeah, that's right.

em:

He's like where do you think we should put your boyfriend? And he's like, let me tell you so, yeah, so then the next day they're they're planning for this practice match and, yeah, he's like I'm going to use you as a set and Kageyama and Hinata kind of look at each other like a set.

rainbow:

They are not happy about it. It's so funny they're so resistant to working together.

em:

Well and just think about it. Like they had this practice match or they did this three on three with the goal of like just being able to be on the team and for Kageyama to be the setter. They didn't know that they were going to be now signing up for like, basically this volleyball marriage. Really, they didn't know they were soulmates yet.

rainbow:

And they don't like it, they're mad about it, they're pissed, they're like. I don't want to work with him all the time. And poor Yamaguchi has that like like I don't know what he says in the sub, but in the dub he's like. All of the other first years are special because, like Tsukishima, is really tall and good at blocking. So, he's going to be on the starting lineup and then. Hinata and Kageyama have their freak quick, so they're going to be starting and Yamaguchi is like I don't have like a role.

em:

Yeah, he's the only first year that is benched for now. Yeah, get good, yamaguchi.

rainbow:

Yeah, you better get to work, man. Yeah, and so. And of course Takada is there because you know they're preparing for a practice match and he's a good coach and he knows he needs to be there for that. But they're like talking about the different positions and he's like, oh, which it's? It's? It's like a, it's a little on the nose. It's a little on the nose, him being like wait, I don't know what the positions are. And then they do like their weird, like word art breakdown and they break down the positions. So they have. There's the three different positions the setter the teams on court. Leader. Leader they organize offensive attacks and set the ball for the hitters to spike. The wing spiker all arounders who are good at both defense and offense. They are the team's core offensive hitters. And then middle blockers they focus primarily on blocking the opponent's attacks. On offense, they generally score their points as hitters and quick sets. They can also be used as decoys to lure the opponent's blockers away from the real attack.

em:

Yeah, and there's one more defense position, but we won't get into that just yet.

rainbow:

I yeah, I just love that line so much they really hint yeah, and so I think it's interesting they bring up. They bring up that middle blockers can also be decoys, because this is where we get Kagama telling Hinata.

em:

You are the ultimate decoy. Yes, and.

rainbow:

Hinata thinks this is lame. Yes, poor Hinata who, like just like two episodes ago, was like I want a cool nickname.

em:

But he doesn't like this one.

rainbow:

He doesn't like this one, probably because Kagama is giving it to him and he doesn't think it's. It's not flashy enough. It's like, well, I don't want to be a decoy, I want to be the center of attention, I want to be the ace.

em:

Yes, exactly, and we'll. I'll have more to say in the spoiler zone about this. Yes, but we can leave that for now.

rainbow:

Yeah, basically, hinata doesn't really want to be a decoy, he doesn't really understand how important that's going to be for the whole team. And then I think that's this is. I think, when Kagama starts putting like too much pressure on him, accidentally there's yes, not on purpose he just is like being intense as he usually is and doesn't realize that Hinata is an anxious person.

em:

Yeah, and really quickly like so this is all happening in the club room. But as they're walking into the club room, this is another thing I feel like I really like clocked for the first time was Kageyama. Like he's like first years are allowed to use the club room and he seems like surprised by this, which makes me think that his fancy little junior high was a bit more like elitist and separate.

rainbow:

Yeah, when I come to like stuff like that, yeah, yeah, like, definitely, like, it could also be because, like they have, just like they have a bigger team, like they have people who are like part of the volleyball team but aren't even like, don't even get uniforms.

em:

That's true.

rainbow:

I kind of wondered if, like, usually first years just like aren't starters, so there's really no, like they don't even get uniforms, so they're not, so they don't really need to be in the club room. But I think it probably is also maybe a little bit of an elitist kind of like well, first years aren't allowed because you have to earn your place by like becoming like a second or a third year.

em:

Yeah, I think your point is right too, like just kind of the difference between a huge school and a huge team versus kind of a just dinkier school and a smaller team.

rainbow:

And we do kind of get a peek into like what other teams club rooms look like and they are better, like they don't have like lockers or anything in. In Karasano they're just using like shelving units to store stuff. And we do kind of see well, I'll point it out when we get to those episodes we see other schools that have like actual locker rooms where each team member gets their own locker and stuff, so like their club room is just really small and it's just part of that. Like those, those like small things that are showing like inequity. Like this is very much about inequity.

rainbow:

That's not just that Karasano like doesn't have like like the prestige of other teams, like their school just also isn't like they're not being supported like financially or like through like institutionally. They're not being supported as well as the other teams are, and so that's why they have to fight harder. There's a line in the dub I can't remember exactly where it is kind of moving away from the club room stuff and back to Hina, to his anxiety, where, like Kageyama, maybe it's even Tanaka Cause Tanaka also says some stuff to Hina.

rainbow:

He kind of gets Hina to nervous and at one point like Hina is just like like all anxious and he's just like he's like Ramrod, stiff Like his. His back is like straight and he is like clearly very like anxious and he's like muttering to himself. And Daiichi is like look at him, you broke him. So funny, he just gets so anxious, oh yeah.

em:

So then this is another example, though, of that of like Kage Hina not realizing what they do to each other because so like Hina is now all like all rattled and he kind of walks out of the club room. And it's funny because they all kind of looked at Kageyama to be like is he going to be okay? And Kageyama was like I'm not his keeper, why are you asking me?

rainbow:

It's so funny that they are automatically like Kageyama. You know Hina to best. Do you think he's going to be okay? And Kageyama was like I don't know.

em:

Yeah, and Suga, I think, says something like don't, don't use any of your wisecracks to. You know, get to him. And Kageyama is just bewildered by this.

rainbow:

He's like he is the meme of the lady with like the math symbols in the back. He's like what do you mean, Cause? Like in the dub. He says like now, don't mess with Hina, and Kageyama is like mess with him. When have I ever messed with him?

em:

Yeah, and everyone else in the club is like he's totally unself aware.

rainbow:

He really yeah, he has no idea. I think that's also just another like autistic Kageyama moment, where he just like doesn't not aware.

rainbow:

Yeah, he's not aware. And he like they're trying to explain to Kageyama why Hina is nervous and Kageyama just isn't understanding. He's like, well, you don't have to be nervous if you're good and we've got the quick, so we're good. And he just like doesn't understand that. The pressure that Hina to feels, yeah, and then I do.

rainbow:

Just going back to the club room thing, I did forget to mention Hinata to says something like he's all excited to be in the club room. And probably tsukis hima or maybe Tanaka says something like it's just a club room, it's not that big of a deal. And Hina to says I've never gotten to use one before, like he's never this. There's so many firsts that he's getting to experience. And I think that's part of the pressure is because now that he's on this team, he feels like he has to stay on this team. He feel like he doesn't feel his place is secure.

rainbow:

Yeah, and he feels like it's almost kind of by luck that he's landed this place. Well, he knows that there are people on the bench that can replace him at any minute. Exactly, yeah, he knows that, and so he. And that's just part of another reason he's feeling so anxious about it and he's putting so much pressure on himself to be like I have to do good, I have to win this game. Like I have to be amazing and kind of almost in like a like a warped kind of way to how Kageyama was looking at it of like I, I as the center, like I have to, like I have to be the one to like win the game for us. And it has to be me. And he's very focused on himself and Hinata isn't like I think they get into this and like later in the episode that like he Nita is like putting all the pressure on himself and thinking he is responsible for the game and for like them winning the game, when in reality it's the whole team.

rainbow:

It's not, just not one person wins the game of all of all. But yeah, but you know he, nita, hasn't gotten to play that much, so that's a lesson he has to learn.

em:

Yeah, and then I think at the end Kageyama is like in his room thinking and we see the back.

rainbow:

Also I wanted to mention Kageyama, not realizing that he's been messing with Hina to this whole time and being mean to him. I thought it was funny, considering last night we watched that Bob's Burgers episode where Bob doesn't realize he's been mean to people.

em:

Oh, it's the episode where he goes to the convention to me with other people on this online community he's been a part of and boy Do I resonate with this where, like he doesn't realize the way that he types comes across like a fucking asshole.

rainbow:

So everyone does not like him, yeah, everyone is like you're a jerk and you're always mean to us. And he like does he thinks they're all friends? Yep, and he doesn't get it. And so at that, I just thought that was so. I was so funny. I was like what a coincidence that we watch that episode of Bob's and then we watch this episode where Kageyama is like what are you talking about? I've never messed with Hina to a day in my life, mm-hmm, just like, yes, you have.

em:

Also, we get to see Natsu, oh yeah really briefly, cuz I see the back of her head. Yeah, hina does too nervous to sleep and he's literally just yelling I can't sleep, which I feel. You, as someone who struggles with insomnia, I feel that's so hard. And then, little, not sue, who's got to be like what for is like shut up.

rainbow:

Yeah, she's like shut up, Show you Slay. She like opens his door, yells at him and then slams it shut. Ah, we, we were robbed of more. Not sue in this show, we should get more.

em:

I would love more and we've gotten like we've seen her, because she ends up in the. She ends up doing volleyball in the future.

em:

Yeah, I think she plays on Neama yes, and so we see that that team and that was that was a great day on Twitter when all that came out, but I wish we had like I really hope that and I think through that. I will just kind of keep dropping content on us like extra chapters and stuff, and I hope we get more of her, because I think that she's probably even more of a spitfire than Hina to is.

rainbow:

Just why don't we just get a whole show? Why don't we just get a whole not to show?

em:

That's another episode discussion of like why doesn't the IQ get treated like my hero or like JJK? Like the fan base is there. If you don't give us the goddamn content, I have a gun, Okay, anyway. So the episode is about to be over. It ends with them taking the bus to Obajosa. I for this game and you can tell that I was on Gummy because my only note for this is Hina to froze up on Tanaka's Venus. That's all I got. That's pretty much what?

rainbow:

yeah, he throws up in his lab, and it's so funny because, like I think they didn't want to show the throw up, yeah, so they just kind of like. So you just see, like this, like bright white, yeah, like sparkly. Yeah yeah, sparkly. And then you see, like the three, like dude, doochie D'Aichi, doochie D'Aichi, suga and Kageyama are like oh gosh, is Hina gonna be okay? Yeah, oh. And so that's how it ends. It ends on a hilarious throw up joke.

em:

I can't wait to get into this game and meet Obajosa in next episode.

rainbow:

It's gonna be so much fun. Yeah, I'm really excited about the next episode, but we have to focus on this one. I know, I Know, but I just want to talk about it. yeah, so that's the end of the episode. I don't really have a lot for sub versus dub thoughts, except that dub Kageyama does not shine in this episode. He's just going too hard, like the part where he's explaining to Hina to how, like, being the decoy is good. He's like he says something like idiots like Tsukishima are gonna keep trying to block you and then we'll be able to score points with other people. And the way he said it is like it sounds like the voice actor is making fun of Kageyama and how intense he is, and it isn't that way in the Sub, at least from what I can tell.

rainbow:

Like I don't get that vibe from the voice actor. Again, we're not Japanese, we don't understand the nuances of the language, but it just sounds like he's a little bit more calm when he says it, and I think that's what the English voice actor doesn't understand About. Kageyama is like yeah, kageyama does have this intense love of volleyball, but he's generally very reserved. It's only in those like moments, like earlier in the show when he was yelling at Hinata to about like how amazing Setting is, like it's only few instances like that where he really like gets intense. Other than that he's more laid back, and so I just I really was bothered by that. I was like, oh no, not this, yeah, so that's it for sub versus dub. Also have a few notes from the Manga. In the manga it's not gonna flip tsukis hima off. He gives him the middle finger, which I love. So I think there's just some differences between what can be in a manga and what can be.

rainbow:

In an anime, because that definitely does not happen in the anime, I wish. And also I think I think in them in the United States it's rated TV 14, like that's the rating, so it's like 14 year olds and above, and so I think even if it was in the anime, I don't think they would let that, I think they would probably find a way to cut that out or something, or like they'd have to blur it, because I just don't think you Can have which is so dumb in my opinion. It's like it's just a middle finger, like how is fuck you gonna hurt anybody? Well, I'll get off my high horse about that, yeah, and then, like Hagi Hina, they're there's just like cute little panels where they're both like smiling at the same time, like after they like successfully, like when they're three on three, they both like how they're just there, one, one brain cell, they share the same brain cell. And then, and sometimes Manga Kageyama is just so pretty, like he's just drawn, so like he just looks very pretty.

em:

I had a moment like that in the anime of this episode as well. It's like towards the end, where they're all, they're all like listening to, I think, the coach talk. I'm like, oh, you're so pretty, yeah, okay, so that's kind of it for manga versus anime.

rainbow:

okay, so we don't have a character spotlight for this episode. We just didn't feel like there was a character that we were ready to spotlight yet. So we'll see going forward. If we continue to do that but we do we have decided to move the who and hi-q section to before the spoiler zone, just so, if you don't like the spoiler zone or you don't listen to it, you can just kind of stop the episode right before we go into it. But for today we want to talk about For who and hi-q, we want to talk about what other Sports the characters would play if volleyball didn't exist, and I have to say if volleyball didn't exist, because if volleyball exists, kageyama is playing it.

rainbow:

Yes, and so therefore, we have to pretend like volleyball was never invented which I do have a thick idea for that that I will write one day like a funny little one shot, which is the worst day of kageyama Tobio's life. so, yeah, so, let's, let's talk about it. So he netta, what kind of sport would he, netta, play if he wasn't playing volleyball?

em:

I feel like anything that really shows off his athleticism. So I don't know, I maybe like basketball or Even like track almost, because that bitch loves to run.

rainbow:

Yeah, I could see him doing like track and field Because I think he like also like his jumping ability. I think that's one thing with basketball. Yeah, yeah for his jumping ability, but I also just feel like, because there is like a basketball anime out there.

em:

Well, seems to obvious that doesn't exist in this conversation Also. It kind of would be like a similar thing where people underestimate him because he's a shorty and it's a, it's a sport for tall people, and then he'd be like but I can jump.

rainbow:

Yeah, yeah, I guess I just see him more as a track and field guy. I get that too. Either one of those would work for me. Yeah, what about kageyama? What kageyama be doing?

em:

long distance running this. Yeah that this just popped into my mind, and maybe it's just because I think he would be a very elegant one, but ice skating, oh.

rainbow:

My god, kageyama is an ice skater. Would be amazing and like that talk about a sport that requires, like, dedication and commitment. Yeah, yeah, absolutely like a soloist.

em:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

rainbow:

Yeah, yeah. Kageyama's not good at teamwork. Oh, that would be amazing. Oh my god, now I want to do a kageyama ice skating at you.

em:

Oh my god, hockey player, ice skater this this podcast is really gonna put us back into our riding mode. I, yeah, I'm gonna want yeah although I Still need to finish.

rainbow:

Go stay you anyway. Back to our who and hi. Yes, who's next? Yeah, okay, so kageyama, ice skater, obsessed with that, daichi.

em:

I could see daichi. Well, this is very American, but like football, Daichi gives high school quarterback for sure.

rainbow:

He gives like nice, like not like the, not like a 80s movie villain high school quarterback but like. Like, like the he gives me, like the guy from remember the Titans, sure, the white guy. I have not watched that in soul. I don't know why, but I always I the guy who gets in the car accident. I always remember him really well, except I hope that she never gets into a car accident.

em:

Well, we all know that daichi does die, that's true.

rainbow:

Yeah, spoiler alert. No, I could see him doing that. I could see him playing basketball or soccer too. Mm-hmm, I could see him doing any of those. Yeah for sure. Okay, what about suga Suga? I could also see playing soccer. I want to put suga in a, I could also see him being a gymnast. Oh, I like that.

em:

I want, I want to put him in a table tennis situation.

rainbow:

Actually no, you're right, because he's so chaotic and unhinged. Yeah, no, absolutely yeah, he'd be like a ping-pong master. Yeah, for sure I love that for him. Uh, tanaka lacrosse, you're right, you're, I could also see. I could also see him playing football if he was in America. American football not, not actual foot, yeah, not the actual football. the godfather, the godfather, yeah, I could see Tanaka doing that. I could also see Tanaka, if he doesn't have a sport to play, like legitimately being like a street youth.

em:

Like who's just causing problems? Just a little punk doing stupid graffiti.

rainbow:

All right, tsuki shima, and Hear me out chest shut, shut up.

em:

We are. We are soulmates, because the way that was also like chest. And is it just because he's smart and has glasses? I don't know.

rainbow:

That's probably a big part part of it. And also like he just, like it doesn't require as much like physical exertion and it just, and he, just, he seems like the kind of person who would be like He'd be a smug, asshole chess player who, like, would make like other players cry. Yes, yeah, I can absolutely see that for him. All right, any other sports that tsukis hima would play?

em:

yeah, that are actually sports.

rainbow:

I could see him being a basketball player just because he's tall like him, just kind of being pigeonholed into that yeah no, chess, yeah, chess really jumped out at me. Yeah, but no, chess just feels right. Um, okay, yamaguchi color guard. What is that?

em:

Oh, color card, like the flags, oh, oh, and like marching band, oh okay, yeah, I was gonna like give him baseball just because I could see him in a baseball uniform, but I also like that a lot.

rainbow:

Yeah, I just think personality-wise like he seems like he'd be like a fun, like color, like drum, major type person yeah.

em:

I like that.

rainbow:

And then, finally, we have Kiyoko.

em:

Well, we already have a canon answer for Kiyoko. Maybe like, let me like a dance.

rainbow:

I always, yeah, I always imagine Kiyoko as a ballerina as a ballet dancer. I just think she'd be so beautiful. On point, I could also see her being a gymnast or like an ice skater. Swimming, swimming, oh my God, yeah, she'd be a fierce swimmer. I can't wait to do her character spotlight and talk about her stats because our girl has some good ones.

em:

Yeah, our girl's an athlete. Don't underestimate Absolutely Our girl's cool as hell.

rainbow:

I would also be fun to see her be a chess player, because she's smart and wears glasses.

em:

Are we the problem?

rainbow:

Maybe yeah, who cares? It's our podcast and we talk about what we want to. Okay, yeah, I think that's it. Any other thoughts on that? Nope, and of course we want to hear your opinions.

em:

Yeah right, if you don't start emailing us. Our inbox is so sad.

rainbow:

Our inbox. All we get is like updates from our podcast hosting platform, and also we're at over 60 downloads.

em:

I just want to say yes, yes, we thank you guys for listening.

rainbow:

It's exciting and that's with only episode zero and episode one out. Who knows how many downloads we'll have by the time episode five comes out. We'll see Perhaps 64. Oh, maybe, but yeah. But before we get into the spoiler zone, we do have a shout out for our one of our favorite Twitter mutuals Sage aka I like that.

em:

You're letting me say it. What is it? Virgotits, virgotits, yes, virgotits.

rainbow:

We love you. Yes, at Virgotwitscom Sage. If you want to ever want to start a porn site, you can steal that name, but you know we love Sage. Sage is one of our mutuals. Yeah, we love to shout them out. Have we shouted out the Twitter family officially?

em:

No, because what happened was, I think, last episode we did, but that recording didn't work out well and then we forgot to shout that out, so should we also do that?

rainbow:

I think we should do that. Yeah, absolutely. I can't believe it's taken us this long.

em:

Quick shout out to. We referenced them as our Twitter fam. We kind of all fell into this little group together in the very early days of Twitter and they have been with us ever since Daisy, Dakota, Berry, Nico and so, so, yes, Our babies, we love you guys very much. They have been our supporters on everything. They were the first people on Twitter to know about our love story and we actually got to meet Nico. We came and visited us and that was really fun, and we do hope to go over to Europe one day and meet the rest of them. I daydream about it all the time, yeah.

rainbow:

I think about it all the time. We also, just one day, we want to create a queer commune by the sea for everyone to live at, and we talk about that with them a lot and we love them. There are babies. Yes, we love you. My Hina baby, that's my, so, so we're twins. All the time, we're constantly getting the same answers to things on quizzes, and yeah, and we just love them. And so, daisy, we are about to go into the spoiler zone.

em:

Yeah, Daisy Lee.

rainbow:

So this is where we leave you. She knows what that's about. But yeah, those are our shout outs. We're not going to do those every episode, but you know.

em:

Just when they come up.

rainbow:

Just when they come up. Yeah, we'll do them. We're about to go into the spoiler zone, so if you don't want to be spoiled, this is where we leave you. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter, instagram, tumblr or blue sky fly hq pod. Or send us an email fly hq pod at gmail dot com. That's f l y h q p o d, and so now we're going to move into the spoiler, so get in the pool.

em:

Get in.

rainbow:

All right. So what do you want to talk about?

em:

Well, I wanted to bring back ultimate decoy and it is just so fascinating because that ends up really being his like big nickname and that's what he's known for and that it comes up so early on. I mean, we're episode five. I just think he really played the long game and I appreciate that.

rainbow:

Well, and it's just another part of Hinata's arc and like learning to be a serious volleyball player, because that's the thing is, he is intense and he does have the passion for it. He just doesn't have like the skills or the knowledge. And once he learns how important being a decoy is, he really starts to own it, like he's so focused that's the thing is he's focused on being the ace and he's focused on being the little giant and it's like he has, like it's very childlike, I would say his, like his, his dreams and his ideas for what playing volleyball is going to be like. And as he gets into the reality, I think it starts to change and he really he goes from wanting to like. He goes from wanting to kind of copy the little giant to like becoming his own, like cool volleyball player who can inspire others.

em:

And I think that's that. Really, that's such a common theme of just like growing up Like I can relate to that too Like having a specific idea of what I wanted my life to look like or who I was going to be when I was a kid, versus growing up and like just embracing who I actually am and like what are my real strengths and instead of just trying to live up to this ideal that I had in my head. And another thing I really love is like Kagehina really do this for each other, where, you know, kageyama gives him that name of ultimate decoy and in return, like Hinata makes Kageyama like he crowns him as the official, like king of the court, and he really lets Kageyama be proud of that and take ownership of that.

rainbow:

And Hinata is kind of, or Kageyama, from the beginning, is telling Hinata like, no, being a decoy is really cool and really good and where you are going to score so many points for us and you're going to help us win the game to the point where and I think this is something that's so interesting, I think the way the games end is always so important, especially their big games, like I. Like I'm excited to talk about the ending of the first Abadjoi Saimat Abadlut, the first blue castle match, the second blue castle match, the Shiratori Zawa match and the Inarizaki match and how those matches end. And then also the Jack Adler's at match, because the Jack Adler's match, the jackals get their last point by Hinata being a decoy. Yes, like it, kageyama is fooled by Hinata and he goes to block Hinata and then he realizes he's like no, he's a decoy and it's Bokuto who scores the last point of that game. And so Hinata like helps get them the last point. So good, oh, it's so good.

rainbow:

Oh, furedate, you are just you're playing, like, like him said, playing the long game and it's so, so satisfying. Yeah, oh, it's so good, yeah, no, I love the ultimate decoy stuff. Yeah, and so and we'll just kind of keep track of, like, how does Hinata feel about being a decoy? Yeah, because he slowly learns to love it. Yeah, and then I just wanted to go back to the thing that you guys says. The very first thing he says to them is save room for dinner. He's constantly, even before he becomes their coach, he's constantly being like you guys have to eat a proper meal. Like go home and eat dinner. Like you can't just eat these like crappy snacks from my convenience store. You have to eat a proper meal to restore your, rebuild your muscles and that's like. That's the kind of the role that you can plays. And I always interested when we get into like learning about his, his name and stuff, if there's anything in his name that kind of points to that at all. There might not be, but it'll be interesting to see and I just love you kind. I'm so excited to talk about him more and yeah, and he's just like he's looking out from for them even before he joins the team, yep, and I love that for him.

rainbow:

Also, when they're talking about their practice match, I can't remember who he's talking to exactly, but they're talking about like, oh, we're going to try out he and Kagama in this practice match. We're going to try he and it as a middle blocker. And I think somebody says something about like isn't that risky, because middle blockers are for defense, like you know, could this potentially backfire on us? And did she says, well, it's a practice match, so like, it's a chance for us to practice, which is so carousel, like I think that's a big part of the summer training camp park in season two is that they're like well, we're just going to keep track, practicing these things over and over again, and you know, it doesn't really like they kind of fail a lot in those practice matches, but it is worth it in the end because when they get to start using it in real games, it really pays off.

rainbow:

And so I think this is the start of that and I just I love this story is, you know, I think stories in general can be like this, but haikyuu in particular is very cyclical where, like, we're kind of constantly, we're kind of like things are kind of growing on a bigger and bigger scale, but we're kind of getting the same, like very we're hitting similar beats every time, so like we've got to go in and practice and we're going to try something risky and it might not pay off, but then, like we're going to keep trying it and then it does pay off and they kind of have to keep and they like I think the lessons change every time they do that, but I think the kind of the route they have to take is very similar and we'll also like with all these.

em:

Like big teams, they all have their specific strengths that they really adhere to, whereas carousel strength is the willingness to try different things and fail and to adapt and like, take things from other teams and incorporate it. So I just think that's they are.

rainbow:

They are constantly evolving and that's important because you have to be you have to be adaptable you know, life has changed and volleyball has changed, because volleyball is life, volleyball is life, haikyuu is everything.

em:

Everything is haikyuu I think that's a good place to.

rainbow:

I think that's a perfect place to stop, alright. So yeah, again, follow us on socials, send us an email we'd love an email, give us a breakdown of you know what, and especially like in things like emails are on Twitter for like who and haikyuu scenarios, like, feel free to like, get into other characters that we haven't talked about yet. So, yeah, we want to hear from you. Thank you for listening and we'll see you next week for episode 6.

em:

See you, babes fly high fly high.

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Excitement and Leadership in Haikyu
Team Dynamics and Respect in Sports
Volleyball Practice Match Lineup Discussion
Pressure and Anxiety in Volleyball Club
Alternate Sports for Haikyuu Characters
Themes in Haikyuu