Bonus Episode: Rarepairs

KiyoYachi, BokuAka, DaiKuro, OiSuga, IwaKage, Hinata Harem and more!!

This week, the hosts are taking a break between arcs to talk about rarepairs and the new ships that were introduced in the first part of season 2. 

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Transcript

rainbow

00:09

hello everyone and welcome to fly a queer Haikyuu podcast. I'm rainbow they she

em

and I'm em she her. And today we are doing a bonus episode.

rainbow

00:20

It's a very special episode and we didn't almost forget about it until this morning we definitely weren't fully prepared to start doing our homework for episode 12 before we realized what was happening. As everyone who's been listening is aware, we just reached the end of the summer training camp arc. We're about to get into lots and lots of games a whole big tournament we've got coming up, and so we wanted to take a little pause, a little break and talk about rare pears. Yes, but before we get into that, we need to say happy halloween, because this episode is coming out on october 28th, which is the monday before halloween. So for everyone out there who celebrates, I hope you're having a dangerously wicked, spooky time out there. Oh, I have the chills, yes and I do believe that we should also say a happy day of the dead for those who celebrate. That's coming up the beginning of october or the beginning of november hell yeah, this is my favorite time of year, man this is the best time of year.

01:16

The thing I love about fall is that is all about death and dying. , the leaves are dying, things are going underground, things are decaying. It's the end of things. There's a chill in the air. It's very spooky, you know, for those who believe in you know the afterlife. They say that the veil between the world of the living and the world of the dead is thinnest at this time of year. It's just a really great time and, if you can't tell, it's our favorite time. Halloween is my favorite holiday and I hope you all enjoy yourselves out there and be safe. Do you want to talk about our favorite movie? Yes, so we are recording this on december. Nope, we are. Could you imagine? We are recording this on october 19th. So we have started to watch some scary movies. We've watched a few. What have we watched so far?

em

02:04

Paranormal Activity One and two which I'm thrilled because those are some of my favorite movies and I watch them every year, and I got Rainbow to watch them this year with me.

rainbow

02:11

We also watched American Psycho. Yes, another classic fave Love that. Don't just stare at it, eat it. I think that's the second time we've mentioned that on this podcast. What else did we watch? We watched a.

em

02:26

Halloween episode of Bob's Burgers. We watched the one where they Scare Louise. Yeah, Scare Louise. I think that's my favorite one.

rainbow

02:29

I think so too. I really love that one. I really love the very first one, full Bars, where they go to King's Head Island. But I think that's a little bit more of a nostalgia thing. But I really like the Haunted House one a lot.

em

02:38

But what are your favorites? Because my favorites. What are your favorites? Here are mine, my favorites.

rainbow

02:46

Silence of the Lambs is another one that I love. We should watch that. Yes, when I also I will say I've been watching. I've been listening to a lot of Too Scary Didn't Watch, which is a horror movie recap podcast, and that's really getting me in the spooky season mood. But yeah, silence of the Lambs is always a favorite. I usually watch the interview with the vampire movie, but I think with the TV show, which is actually gay. I think I'm going to keep going on that one. I usually like to watch Saw. Last year, because Saw X was coming out, I did a rewatch of every single movie, including Jigsaw and Spiral. So I probably won't do like a full Saw rewatch this year, but I might watch the first one at some point if I'm feeling up to it and will not be watching that with me.

em

03:25

I did not participate last year and I won't be participating this year or any year. And for those of you who are reading my fic right now, there's a conversation about Saw. That happens and that is 100% because of Rainbow, because I know nothing and I refuse.

rainbow

03:40

I literally was like oh, you should have them say this and this, you get co-writing credit for that. Yes, absolutely. , yeah, go ahead. You go ahead and list your favorites and then I'll think about mine. If there's anything that overlaps, I'll shout it out.

em

03:54

Okay, I fucking love being scared, even though I'm such a bitch, and so here are my favorites. My favorite scary movie ever I think will continue to be the Exorcist. That I think will continue to be the Exorcist. That was my boogeyman growing up. I'd always like try and like gather my bravery to watch it every year and like it just creates such a dread kind of mood when you're watching it, like you're waiting for something horrible to happen. And I'm also very fascinated with like the filmmaking that went behind it. There had to be a lot of creative like decisions made and it's really fascinating. You should watch behind the scenes if you haven't. I also.

04:25

And the paranormal activity movies are unironically. I love them so much because I love a good demon, I love a good ghosty, anything with the catholic church, like the conjuring movies I think are good. Like there's some good modern horror that I really like Ari Oster, I love Midsommar, I respect Hereditary. I watched it once and I'll never watch it again. And then then yeah, I don't know, I just like some classics like Poltergeist, like things that I grew up watching.

rainbow

04:48

Yeah, I love to watch the Lost Boys. I'll probably watch that again this year. I love a lot of the gay ones. I really love Nightmare on Elm Street. I don't think I'll watch that one this year, but I do want to show M Nightmare on Elm Street 2, freddy's Revenge, which, if you don't know, that is the one with the most homosexual undertones. It's a very controversial movie, very interesting. It's not like pro-gay, unfortunately, but it is like it's the kind of film that has been reclaimed by the gays. And there's a really interesting documentary, I believe, called Scream Queen or Scream King. I think Scream Queen, but it's about the actor from the second movie because he has a very interesting story in that movie, kind of fucked up his career. So that one's really good. And I like a lot of the classics, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a good one. I might give that one a re-watch, the original, because that is such an interesting movie.

05:36

All right, moving on. Yeah, moving on. We want to get into our episode and we are going to. Before we get into the quote-unquote rare pairs, we're going to talk about two or three new kind of main ships that we met in season, two ships that we didn't get to talk about in our mid or our season break episode, because we hadn't met some of the characters yet. So we're going to talk about those, and then we're going to get into rare pairs, and do you want to talk a little bit about what we mean by rare pair?

em

06:03

yeah. So when we say rare pair we really mean anything that is not one of the canon by fru date pairings in in the Haikyuu universe.

rainbow

06:11

So basically anything that is not because rare pair is kind of going to be an umbrella term, popular rare pairs to like, actual like, not as often talked about yeah, we famously always say that in Haikyuu everyone gets a little boyfriend, yeah, and so it's pretty much all of the ships that aren't those little boyfriends that Furudate has so nicely packaged together for us, right.

em

06:33

Because we've talked about Kagehina and Iwa-Oi and DaiSuga and all the classics. You know what I mean. We're going down a different route, yeah, so we're trying some things out. We can mix and match. We're doing the remix.

rainbow

06:46

Exactly, and we're very excited to talk about it. And I will say for those rare pairs, we won't necessarily have fix to recommend for those, because we maybe haven't read a lot of fix for some of them. But first we want to talk about some of these new main ships and we're going to start off with Kiyo Yachi.

em

07:06

Yes, with Kiyo Yachi. Yes, Yachi has been introduced to us, our favorite lesbian and the only reason she is here is because of Kyoko's beauty and that's why they're a main ship.

rainbow

07:10

Yachi is here because Kyoko was talking to her and she just didn't even listen. Yeah, she was just so. And that just continues Like every every Kyoko Yachi interaction. Is Yachi being a little nervous that Kyoko is so beautiful?

em

07:24

And I just it's really nice to have one female friendship. On this show there are so many boyfriends and we get one little pair of girlfriends, but you know, they both bring each other out of their shells in a way, because Kyoko it's so interesting, because Kyoko has been so quiet and mousy, but with Yachi there's almost a confidence. And I think Kyoko is experiencing that thing where when you're usually shy but you get around someone who's even more nervous and shy, you kind of lock in as the extrovert and like you're in charge and I feel like she's just like kind of the mother to Yachi right now, the mother hen taking her under her wing and showing her the ropes and like training her, and at the same time Yachi brings Kyoko out.

rainbow

08:02

Yeah, yeah, well, we've gotten to see I think I've mentioned it we've got to see Kiyoko be like a little teasing toward Yachi.

em

08:08

There's that like I love, that little like evil smile she does in that one episode I mean, as tanaka and noya say, we kind of do get to see more of her personality because Yachi's around yeah, and I really love it and so that's what we love about this ship there's nothing to dislike about it.

08:23

Yeah, if you dislike it, I assume that's misogyny speaking um and I will have so much more to talk about, like especially season four. Yes, I feel like there's good stuff with them and yeah, we can. We can talk a little bit in the spoiler zone about about some stuff yeah, we will have a spoiler zone and we really urge you to stick around yeah, yeah, because we'll be able to get way more in depth with some of these ships. Yeah, absolutely.

08:47

So have you ever read a Kyoko Yachi fic? I definitely have. I mean, I haven't. I definitely never committed to like a chaptered fic, probably just a couple of quick ones. I have fic ideas for them too, but no, I've got nothing.

rainbow

09:05

I just it's so hard because I feel like there's just I feel like with yuri there's just always less yeah of it than yaoi. It's out there though it's definitely out there.

09:09

Yeah, and definitely, if you have any really good Kiyoko Yachi fics, please send them our way. We definitely have ideas. Like, I have an idea for a photographer Yachi and model Kiyoko fic. , and I will definitely write that one day and then I think a college au is fun with them and I like when they show up as like a background ship in another fic that I'm reading. I think that's always fun. All right, anything else we want to say about kiyo Yachi? Love my girls, they're me. I love them so much. I just I can't wait to talk about them more and then our other new season.

em

09:41

Two power couple is BokuAka.

rainbow

09:45

We love. We've talked about Boko Waka at length in our episodes.

em

09:49

We got to give them a moment here because you know we've been chomping at the bit to get to them.

rainbow

09:54

Yeah, that was honestly the most disappointing thing about doing our season break episode that we couldn't talk about Boko Waka. I was so. I was like we can't even. We haven't even met them yet. We don't even have a whisper of Boko Aka at the end of season one. We can't talk about them. But now we can talk about them at length.

em

10:12

So what do you like about them? They really are just like third year Kagehina what I imagine, except if Kageyama was calmer, yeah, but like I think that they're very married coded, they're really giving like water and earth sign relationship actually, because Akashi is so like he just doesn't let Bokuto get away with anything and Bokuto is so like over the top and like they just like they balance each other out really well.

rainbow

10:35

I don't know, I'm obsessed with them they really, really do, and I love that. I think it's cute that Akashi is a second year and Bokuto is a third year, but they're clearly like best friends and clearly, like I will, I want to touch a little bit more on on them in the spoiler zone because, like we get to see a little bit more about them later on. But, like it's just, they're so like cute together. Bokuto is like just a big dumb sweetheart and akashi is just like just the stoic acts, like he doesn't care, but clearly cares so much, and I really love that a lot. Do you have any favorite fics for them?

em

11:12

I've read like two that I remember and the one I read recently that you recommended me Happy Accidents.

rainbow

11:19

Backwards. You recommended it to me, did I? Yeah, yeah, you read it before I did.

em

11:24

I did. Yeah, wow, that's a great one. That's where Akashi gets like hit by a bike but Kuro thinks he got hit by a car and tells Poguro he got hit by a car and he rushes in and it's just really cute. It's a getting together hurt comfort fic that I recommend, and we'll have links to all of these fics that we mentioned when we post the episode and then there was another one where they're roommates.

rainbow

11:46

They were roommates I think that's probably. Is it a college, au?

11:49

I think I think that's the one I recommended to you yeah, for sure yeah okay, and so and I have actually the name of so happy accidents is by gab star. Thanks, gabby. And so the one you're talking about is kiss me like you want to be loved by kazzy dolan, and I love this fic. This was the first ever boko aka fic I ever read which kind of set the tone, I think, a little bit for me on how I view their dynamic and honestly, I think it is correct. This is their dynamic for sure and so I really really love this one. Yeah, college au and they were roommates really fun. It's, it's explicit and it's just about them falling in love with the friends, with benefits situation mixed in there. I've written boko aka just saying you have.

em

12:33

I have a boko aka fic, and I'm not gonna make a habit of plugging my ao3 on this podcast, but if you know, you know, go check it out I have an idea for a boko, aka library au, that I want to write one day because, I think library in Akashi just makes a lot of sense and it would be preschool teacher Bokuto, so so another one I have is Watch what Will Become by Joshelman.

rainbow

12:58

I think is how you pronounce that. This is a really good one. It's about Bokuto. It's trans Bokuto, and he is the trans son of a well-known businessman and he gets set up in an arranged marriage and he's not sure how he feels about it. Yeah, it's like a whole thing, but he's like he's closeted trans, so like his family doesn't know. And then online he has two friends that he talks to and one of them is Akashi and one of them is Kuro, and Bokuto is in love with Akashi and like feels so complicated about being in this arranged marriage and it's just a really, really good fic oh my god, the drama.

13:31

I know it's rated T, I can send it and it's only, it's a one shot, it's one chapter it's about 23,000 words. , really good, one love that one. And then another one I have is a femme, boko Aka, and it is where Bokuto is Medusa and Akashi is like this blind. I think it's like back in, like Greek times, and Akashi is like a, the blind daughter of, like some somebody very affluent. And it's cool because Bokuto has the. You know it's Medusa, so she has snakes on her head and the snakes are some of the characters. , and it would be it'd be a little spoiler zone for me to talk about which characters they are, but it's, it's really cute. I highly recommend that one, and that one is by. It's called Cursed and it's by Bubble Tea and Bonsai.

em

14:16

Oh, wow, ok, Some fun different things in the mix.

rainbow

14:19

Yeah, like when you said I had to pick three, I like, okay, I'm gonna pick. Sorry, I'm not trying to read you for it. It makes sense. Everybody, I'm not mad that she made me narrow it down to three. Okay, I think that's that is perfectly acceptable. That's why I told you how many I had selected, so that you could rein me in um. But yeah, so I wanted to pick three that um. I wanted to pick kind of ones that were very different from each other to give you some variety. But yeah, so those are my fics. I love a fluff. I don't like a lot of angst with Boko Aka. I will occasionally read some established relationship with them. I always love a college AU for anybody. And then we do want to mention Yakulev.

em

15:00

Yes, because they're another new one with the addition of Lev and we've seen a bit of their interactions and it is funny. Yeah, they're a funny ship.

rainbow

15:07

I don't know of a lot of fix for them. I don't think there's a ton out there. I see them more as a background ship in other fix that I've read. That being said, if you have any you want to share, just let us know. Hell yeah love the height difference can't go wrong can never go wrong with a height difference, especially with that particular dynamic with like the angry short one and the tall stupid one.

em

15:28

Yeah, seriously those are our two new babes, KiyoYachi bokowaka yakulove, so three now really getting into some of the rare pairs. We're going to start off with everyone's favorite alpha for alpha Kuroo, Daichi, Kuroodai. Of course, Kuroo and Daichi, and I mean, it makes sense, the captains. They both very underhandedly and subtly dig at each other and razz each other, but they're like rivals and they represent the head of these two, our two epic rivals, and they should kiss.

rainbow

15:58

I feel like Kuro brings something out in Daichi that I really like, that we don't necessarily see all the time and I I don't know. I think there's something about Kuro that like when, when it's Kuro and Daichi like, it's easier to remember that Daichi is just a high school student because just with the team he has to be so like mature and responsible and everything.

em

16:17

But then when he gets around Kuro he can be a little bit more like of a teenager another captain from the city who is always showing him what the deal is with training camps and like all these things that Karasuno is not used to being a part of. Yeah, it's a different dynamic that we see for Daichi.

rainbow

16:34

Yes, absolutely. So I love them. I, yeah, I think their dynamic is very like, a little bit antagonistic. There's a little bit of a rivalry there, but ultimately, respect and understanding. I do love the idea of an Omegaverse alpha for alpha fic. For sure, I would love to read that. Yeah, and I'm trying to think I don't know if I've read a ton of Kurodai fics, though.

em

17:00

I follow Marie on Twitter and she's always got good stuff going on with Kurodai.

rainbow

17:06

Yeah, Marie is always talking about some good stuff. I would love some more Femme Kurodai I think that that's a really fun dynamic. Just two butches butch for butch, Like that song. Okay, so do we want to move on to another Kuro ship?

em

17:24

Yes, so another ship that is very popular a little, I don't want to say I don't think it's controversial, I think what word do I want? It's split with people, I think. I do think you either kind of love it or maybe hate it. And it's Kuroosuki. Yes, when we were re-watching the training camp arc I was like I I can see why someone would look at it and maybe like get into it. Yeah, with Kuroo. Kuro kind of being Kuro is just kind of an antagonistic person. Yes, because he's a Scorpio.

rainbow

17:51

But again the dynamic is so different with Kuro Suki because Suki is also so antagonistic and like that's where it like becomes fun. Suki kind of meets his challenge with Kuro a little Well in Kiss Me Like you Want to Be Loved. Kuro and Suki are together and you kind of get to see a little bit of their dynamic through that author's eyes and I think it's very fun. Like there's something where like Suki's talking about like he's gonna have to quit his barista job and Kuro's like no, I can't live without my discounted coffee, and Suki's like then die and I just I love that about them and I definitely think they're fun. I think the thing divisive is the word you were looking for, that is thank you. It is a very divisive ship and I think it's because Kuro and Suki are both part of two other very strong ships of Kuroken and Tsukiyama, and both of those other ships are like childhood best friendships.

em

18:41

Yeah, like whatever Kurosuki. Kurosuki is often a background ship in fics I read and I'm always like no, because I'm such it's so funny, because Tsukiyama is not even something I'm like super passionate about. But I'm very monogamous about Tsukiyama. I don't really like any ship that involves them with other people. Like no, no, they've been married since they were 12.

rainbow

19:02

Yeah, no, get that. That's kind of how I feel a little bit about Kuroken, although for me I feel like with Kuroken I see them as more like poly, so I can see Kuro being with Suki and not making sense. But for me I do agree, like I see Tsukiyama more as like they just feel like they are going to be together.

em

19:18

They are monogamous yeah, I feel like they just don't like anybody else yeah, like literally in any way.

rainbow

19:24

Yeah, and I just that's my preferred dynamic, but like I totally get why people are into it, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, I, I don't think there's anything wrong with shipping them. I think they're, I think it makes a lot of sense. If we were talking about true rare pairs, we'd be talking about like characters who have never met before. Like you know, Kuroo and Oikawa don't really meet at all in like the main series but I think they would be such an interesting ship as well, although I see them more as like besties than than as romantic. But so, like you know, again, are we really talking, even talking about rare pairs here if we're not talking about those kinds of ships?

em

20:03

but anyway, it really is, quote unquote rare pairs, yeah, very much so. But speaking of Oikawa, the next on our list is oiSuga I love this.

rainbow

20:13

I will say this out of all the ships we have listed here, I probably read the most oiSuga fix, because I do think that they're they. Again, it's really fun because what it is is that Oikawa is just such a little bitch and like he's so cunty, and Suga seems like he's just so refreshing and nice, but he's got that little evil side that I think Oikawa would like at first be like oh, this little goody, two shoes. And then Suga would do like one thing and he'd be like oh, it'd be like that, oh, oh, like that thing, like that's. That's what I like about Oisuga. I think that they, I just think that they're a fun dynamic.

em

20:55

I want to read a fic where Suga reads Oikawa for being a bad parent oh my god, yeah, honestly that those have got to be out there.

rainbow

21:02

Yeah, and I again, I see them as like a background ship sometimes and I think they're fun. I've also read fics where they're not together romantically but they are best friends and I think that makes a lot of sense. Suki kage, suki kage. I think it, I see it, I think it makes sense yeah, I think it does too.

em

21:20

I think if Hinata didn't exist and yamaguchi didn't exist, I would ship them for sure, because I mean I love rivals or enemies to lovers and I like when they're antagonistic with each other. I feel like suki was low-key, a little obsessed with Kageyama and maybe there is like a low-key crush there and I wouldn't. I like I I adopt that as headcanon, I guess in a way, I almost ship it a little bit again. It's like I just prefer their main ship so much.

rainbow

21:43

I think for me, I think, when I'm thinking about AUs for Kagehina, if I've got like the characters split up, where you know, maybe like Hinata and Yamaguchi don't know Tsukishima and Kageyama before the fic starts, but if Tsukishima and Kageyama have known each other before, like they very much have a love-hate relationship, and like maybe if it's like a college AU or like an aged up thing, like they're having like angry hate sex with each other kind of thing, like they're both gay and they don't really have anybody else to explore that stuff with, so they explore it with each other, I like making them like besties and I use like I did that with my vampire fic because I just feel like in maybe in another universe, where they didn't have this weird volleyball animosity.

em

22:26

I feel like they're the type of people where they're so similar that they didn't like each other at first, and then maybe they had it out or whatever, and then they're best friends after. You've done it I've done it a lot of us have.

rainbow

22:36

No, I totally get that. I agree. Yeah, and I think they're the kind of friends where, like you look at them and you're like those people don't like each other at all, but actually they love each other and would like do anything for each other. They're just like very bitchy, yeah. Yeah, I totally get that. Ready to move on. Yes, okay, we're talking about BoKuroo next, another alpha for alpha, for alpha. Yes, I like to call them bro Kuroo because I think they're bros they are more platonic to me.

em

23:01

I would buy them being kind of casual or like let's practice. Kiss, bro, like I'm in love with Kenma.

rainbow

23:07

Help me deal with that. I very much see that for them. I see them exploring their sexualities together, but in a very like we're not going to end up together kind of way, and I've definitely like seen them in fix as like a background ship before and I think that's cute and, yeah, I think they're fun together. They're just both like full of energy in their own ways and I do love that. Kuro is always kind of being a little shitty to Bokuto about things. I think that's fun. Yeah, that being said, getting into some poly shipping BokuAkaKuroKen I think makes a lot of sense. I love shipping all four of them together. I think that's probably one of the biggest poly ships in.

23:51

Haikyuu. Yeah, I think that sounds like a cozy time. There was one fic I read about the four of them and I think it was called tastes like gold and that was a long one. It like went from like high school up through like their adulthood and it was just them. It started with like Kuroo kin learning about polyamory and realizing that was a thing, and then Kuroo being into Bokuto and Kenma being like I mean, yeah, that's cool. And then Kenma slowly like realizing that he's kind of into Bokuto too, and then, like they know, bokuto's in love with Akashi and Akashi slowly gets brought in and it's just like it's very. It was really cool. It felt very like natural.

24:24

It's like this feels like this how this is how this polycule would come together yeah and it was really cute and I just think they're fun and I just, you know, there's like because there's Bokuto and Kuro kind of like being on like the hyperactive side and then Akashi and Kenma being on like the quieter, more demure, mindful side, and I totally get it.

em

24:47

This is a difficult because I want I want to be explicit, but there's so many kids who listen to this show, I know it is.

rainbow

24:55

This is why we need a patreon. So we can, we can do, we need to do an nsf and yeah, and not safe nsfw.

25:03

Patreon, yes, yes, okay and then there's but and then, in the same vein, there's boko akaKuroo suki which you know is born from this training camp arc, because the four of them are practicing together so much and they do have a fun dynamic, because that's the thing where, like it is kind of interesting because Kenma and suki are not the same person at all. But I think, because the four of them are practicing together so much and they do have a fun dynamic, because that's the thing where, like, it is kind of interesting because Kenma and Suki are not the same person at all, but I think they kind of fit the same role in that dynamic where, like, I can see Suki and Akashi or Kenma and Akashi being bitchy about BoKuroo.

25:30

I've also seen all five of them ship together throwing Kenma. On the end of that I was gonna say, like it just feels wrong that Kenma was not included.

em

25:44

It does feel wrong, but, you know, I think you can look at like a BokuAkaKuroTsuki where like kenhina are together. Yeah, we have some that came right from a listener one of our faves you've heard of them it's gem and he hit me with some YamaKage, which we will get more into in the spoiler zone. Yes, because there's more to say about things that happen in the future. Yes, but I think that could be like a fun little dynamic. That's a real like. Yamaguchi needs to make Suki realize that he's in love with him, so he starts hooking up with Kageyama.

rainbow

26:10

Yes, very much so. Like I think it's not something that people expect. I did read a fic that was like just full of rare pairs it was Daichi, and somebody we haven't met yet, somebody that we will meet in the next few episodes. Yeah, it was like Kageyama and Yamaguchi were together and I was like, okay, I think that was the first time that ship, even like, came to mind for me and that ship is funny, that ship name is funny.

26:41

Yes, because you can only say yamakage. Because if you try to say kage, Kageyama, it's just Kageyama's name. I guess you get kageguchi.

em

26:45

Kagaguchi, you can do kageguchi oh my god, you can do their first names tobeuchi or tobeashi.

rainbow

26:53

That just sounds like an actual name. It's KageGuchi, KageGuchi.

em

26:59

And then another one that gem brought up was Kuroo yaku, which you told I didn't even know this was really a ship, but apparently it is yeah, and maybe I feel like there's some stuff that we see later on.

rainbow

27:10

That I feel like maybe was more in the manga. I don't think, because I think it would have been in the movie or in a season five if we'd gotten a season five um which we didn't, it's fine, um so yeah. So Kuro Yaku they're both third years, I think again they have kind of like an antagonistic they fight a lot kind of dynamic that I think people enjoy. I've read a lot of well, not a lot, but I've definitely read some Kuro Ken fics where, like Yaku is Kuro's ex kind of.

em

27:39

Thing okay, interesting. And then the last one, from Jen Gem, was Kage Ken. I love the idea of this show. I think it's cute. I think I really love the way that Kageyama like tries to communicate with Kenma but ultimately fails, and I just think they would be really adorable to write about.

rainbow

27:55

I think so too. I think I love the idea of like it starts out with like Kenma is like well, that guy clearly wants to kill me. And then like slowly learning, and I think that they both have such like strong, like analytical and strategic minds when it comes to volleyball. I could see them like sitting on the couch together watching a volleyball game and like analyzing it. I think that would be really fun.

em

28:16

Yeah, okay, so you're probably there's been some that we've been saving and I hope you guys have been nice and patient because we're getting to it now.

rainbow

28:24

Hinata, who don't worry, we haven't forgotten about his existence, yeah, and so just kind of as a catch-all, I want to just talk about the Hinata harem for a second.

em

28:34

And I think that that's so fitting for him, because he really gets on with like he touches everybody. Yes, in one way or another.

rainbow

28:40

Yeah, I really see Hinata as polyamorous and like able to like have relationships with lots of different people and have different kinds of relationships with people.

em

28:50

I think you could ship him with oh sorry, I just heard the roars of the KageHinaists. It's loud, I got the shivers. It's like in the anime.

rainbow

28:58

Hold on yeah, yeah, you know what it's okay, we're talking about the rare pair.

29:04

We're talking about the rare pairs and like I mean honestly, but even then, like outside of rare pairs, like I honestly do see I had canon Hinata as polyamorous, I do think Kageyama is his rival, his soulmate, the love of his life, his partner. I think that they will live together. But I also see Hinata as, like I do think he maybe occasionally likes to kiss Kenma. I do see him as like hooking up with other people and I see Kageyama not having a problem with that, um kind of thing like that's just and you know and and nobody else has to agree with that. If you see Kageyama as like they only love each other and and only ever want to touch each other or kiss each other, that's, that's totally up to you.

29:40

I don't think there's anything wrong with that and I don't think there's any wrong with anything wrong with poly shipping um you know, and and part of that is projection because I am polyamorous and I have my Kageyama, who is the love of my life and my partner and who I will live together for the rest of my life. But are there other people I want to kiss?

em

29:56

obviously are there other oomfs Dms, I'm in, of course, yeah, really but no, and oh god, maybe one day we'll do a like, a little thing about polyamory versus like monogamy, and just like I just feel like monogamy people feel, like the polyamory like take something away from the relationship and if you do pursue relationships with other people in any capacity, like that means you don't love your main person as much or whatever, and it's like either you feel that way or you don't, and that's gonna dictate. And if you don't feel that way and you feel like it doesn't take anything away, it's just adding more to the love, like yeah, I mean, that's the thing I feel like polyamory is like.

rainbow

30:36

We're still not quite there with polyamory, where it's still seen as like this really bad thing or this thing, that like only like kinky gay people do or something, or like. Or they see it as polygamy, they see it as like Mormons, where it's like one husband and like a bunch of wives, which is not what polyamory is.

em

30:52

It's very misunderstood and willfully misunderstood because it makes people uncomfortable.

rainbow

30:57

very misunderstood and willfully misunderstood because it makes people uncomfortable. And if you're listening to this and you're really interested or you're you're, maybe you are do you do feel like you don't know enough about it? There is a great podcast out there called Multi-Amory where they talk a lot about various different relationship dynamics, because there is a whole umbrella of non-monogamy in which a lot of things like polyamory, swinging, open relationships, those fit into there and that's a great resource. If you're curious about that, if you're thinking maybe you know, if you're, if what m was saying about like loving other people, doesn't take away from your love for this one person, feel free to explore that in whatever way you you see fit. Listening to podcast reading, fix like there's nothing wrong with feeling that way and don't ever let anyone tell you that you are wrong for that. The way that we love people, as long as everyone is a consenting adult, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how you choose to love other people love is beautiful exactly.

31:47

It's not hurting anyone, and the great thing about polyamory is that there is a big push for open communication and honestly, I think with I think that there's a lot of stuff. Even if you are monogamous, I think you could look at the way that polyamorous dynamics are set up and a lot of the tools that polyamorous people use. I think those could be applied to monogamous relationships very easily, and so, I think, just open your heart and open your mind and then and if you are monogamous, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's not boring, it's not lame.

em

32:15

Again, there's nothing wrong with the way that we love other people yeah, I do sense like a defensiveness from monogamous when polyamory comes up, if you find yourself having like a strong reaction, whether it's negative, especially if it's negative just like explore that a little bit like why is it?

32:29

why, why does it trigger you? Because it kind of did for me like I was a very monogamous person and like in recent years I've like opened my mind up. I just think it's so ingrained in us and I think having that be challenged is very threatening, yes, and so I think if you just, if you just approach like anything, if you approach it with curiosity, you might be surprised. Anyway, we went on a big tangent.

rainbow

32:48

We sure did. Anyway, Hinata harem. I think you can ship Hinata with pretty much anybody, and it makes it except for Yachi honestly because she's a lesbian. But even then I get why people ship them together.

em

32:57

Yeah, there's so many random ones that I love, like Aone. I just really love him and Aone together. Yeah, I can't believe we don't. That's a good rare pair. That's a real rare pair right there yeah. Because I never see any good fix for them.

rainbow

33:09

I never see any good fix for them. I've seen some cute arts for them to be shipped together. I think there's this respect Aone has for Hinata. That is very beautiful. Actually, in that fic I was telling you about where Kageyama and Yamaguchi are shipped together. It's Aone and Hinata and I think it makes a lot of sense.

em

33:26

And, like Hinata, with any setter he comes across, yeah, I mean yeah. We all know they're always obsessed with him.

rainbow

33:32

Every setter wants. Hinata and we love that for them.

em

33:36

And I think we can all agree on that.

rainbow

33:38

We can all agree on that. But even I've seen, like Hinata and Kuro, I've seen ship together. Kenhina let's talk about Kenhina.

em

33:45

Yes, yes, yes, that's like one of my second favorite ships of Hinata's.

rainbow

33:50

I think, I just think it makes so much sense. Yeah, I think after Kageyama Kenma makes the most sense. I love.

em

33:56

Kenhina. I love them as friends. I love them as casual, like oh, practice, kiss or whatever. And then I love like thinking about their potential relationship dynamic. I just feel like it would be very easy and like uncomplicated. Yeah, I think there's just a mutual adoration there Very simple.

rainbow

34:12

They don't feel the need to explain themselves to anybody.

em

34:14

We're going to talk more about this in the spoilers, which is why we've kind of held on to them.

rainbow

34:18

towards the end here, yeah and then talking about another Hinata ship that we'll talk more about in the spoiler zone. Is Oikawa or or not Oikawa? Oh, that's something we could have mentioned for rare oh my god, we didn't even talk about Oikawa. We're crazy, wow. Okay, pause from talking about Hinata and his harem, let's talk about Kageyama and Oikawa. Very popular ship, very. But yeah, like, what do you think of them? How do you, how do you veer their dynamic?

em

34:45

you know, my relationship with Oikage is interesting because like I'm so down for it and obviously I get why and it's good angst and everything. That's one of those ships where I like and actually you got in trouble, I think, for tweeting this because people kind of misinterpreted yeah, but like it's one of those things where like I don't really get into a lot of fix with them, but I really like fan art yeah, I like I posted like a meme which I do realize was like I.

rainbow

35:08

I didn't think about how it could be interpreted where it was like it was the kombucha girl meme, oh.

35:13

Brittany Broski where it was just like reading OiKage fics doesn't necessarily appeal to me, like I just don't go into those as much, not to say that there aren't a lot of amazing OiKage fics out there. It's nothing about the quality of writing, it's just particularly the ship that I don't necessarily want to read about. But I love the arts that are out there and there was like one OiKage fic that I read that I thought was really interesting. And again, I think a problem with me with non KageHina ships is when they don't get the Hinata Kageyama dynamic right. Even if they're not together romantically, like platonically, like they're soulmates and they understand each other, yeah, and so anytime. When it's just like, oh yeah, Hinata and Kageyama, I hate, when I especially hate when it's like a time skip fic and it's like, oh yeah, yeah, they used to be friends but they don't really talk anymore and it's like you just don't get them.

em

36:00

The whole senpai kohai relationship, even though Oikawa kind of rejects Kageyama, where that's where the angst comes in and the whole rival thing. And I love you know, I really do headcan think that Oikawa was like a first crush for Kageyama, although, and kind of leading into another ship here while we're at it, I also Iwakage is a great ship and I think that Iwazumi was one of Kageyama's first crushes.

rainbow

36:29

Yes and also just getting into polyshipping, IwaOiKage, hell yeah, great, great polycule. Love them as a throuple yeah that's an excellent ship. No, I totally agree Everything you said about Oikage, and I do like Iwakage, because we see it and I think we'll see it a little bit more in the episodes we have coming up, where, like there is just such a deep mutual respect between Iwaizumi and Kageyama and again, I think Kageyama really looks up to Iwaizumi as a senpai and I think Iwaizumi, you bitch.

em

37:07

Iwaizumi has accepted Kageyama as a kohai way more than Oikawa ever did.

rainbow

37:09

Yeah, yeah. I really like their relationship, yeah, and then did we talk, oh, and then we were kind of getting into OiHina a little bit, which we'll talk way more about them in the spoiler zone. But I do, I think even from the beginning, I think from the first time Oikawa sees that like that freak quick, he's very interested in Chibi-chan, he's very interested in Chibi-chan. I think there's always something a little flirtatious about the way he talks to him.

em

37:32

Okay, so, before we are able to get deeper in the spoiler zone, right, real quick, will you follow me on twitter? we're on twitter, instagram, tumblr and blue sky, which may become more famous than ever I was gonna say blue sky is popping off, follow us on there as twitter continues to make horror, well, as elon musk continues to make horrible decisions um and ruin twitter.

37:51

but you can find us at fly Haikyuu pod. That's fly hq. hq stands for haikyuu by the way, in case anyone doesn't know that F-L-Y-H-Q-P-O-D. And you can also email us at flyhqpod at gmailcom. That's F-L-Y-H-Q-P-O-D at gmailcom.

rainbow

38:10

And so now you enter a door, a strange door, a weird door, a spoilery door, Okay, so there's a few.

em

38:21

Just this is really just so we can delve more, because a lot of these ships really bloom in after the time skip yeah, and I want to real quick.

rainbow

38:26

I just want to mention, when it comes to KiyoYachi, I understand that Kiyoko and tanaka are like the only true canon ship in this show and we've talked about it. I'm not going to get into it too much more, but it does suck that it's like.

em

38:39

Well then, we like it does feel like you know you were talking about tragic head canons yes, yeah, no, a lot of my like fic ideas for them do involve some sort of like Yachi getting her heart broken when she gets the wedding invitation in the mail and then, I don't know, maybe cheating afterwards.

rainbow

38:55

But that's just me yeah, no, no, I totally get that. It just it's just like so disappointing that it's just like, damn, we don't even like get like the the Yuri, of course not, of course not. Although I will say, in the manga, in the time skip, there's like a part where, like Kyoko says something like really cute, and like all the guys react in like a very like oh my god, my soul is leaving my body. She's so beautiful kind of way, and Yachi is reacting the exact same way as everyone else, like it's just so clear that she is a lesbian and you know, I guess you could see like, oh yeah, she had a crush on Kiyoko in high school but it didn't work out.

39:26

And I think I did read a fic where it was Saeko and Yachi and they hooked up after Kiyoko and tanaka's like I don't know if it was their wedding or it was their engagement party or something, but like Saeko could clearly see that Yachi was upset by losing Kyoko and just kind of like really helped her take her mind off of that. That's a rare pair, folks. That's a rare pair right there. You know, I think it makes sense, though we get to see them a little bit more. We see them, like they're up in the stands together a lot.

39:53

Saeko's always pushing her face in her boobs. Oh my god, yeah, lucky, lucky Yachi, so yeah, so that's Kiyo Yachi. I did also want to mention with Boko Aka that in the fucking time skip in the manga the volume that's about their game we get to learn that Akashi is only still playing volleyball in high school because of Bokuto. He sees him as a star, he is the only one who wants to practice with Bokuto.

em

40:21

He sees him as a star.

rainbow

40:22

He is the only one who wants to practice with Bokuto, like nobody else wants to practice. The panel of Bokuto under the table and Akashi helps Bokuto out of his sad moods I'll kill someone. But then fucking Akashi goes to the game between the Jack Adler's game and like stands up at one point when Bokuto does something, does an amazing move. And the whole reason Akashi is there with Tenma is because they're like interviewing Bokuto afterwards and Bokuto says something like oh, let's go ahead and like finish this up so we can go get some cow tongue. And it's like very clear that like they have dinner plans after this.

em

40:53

I mean, obviously they have to go home together Because they're together.

rainbow

40:56

They're in a long distance relationship, like tell me they're not. Anyway, boko Aka is so fucking canon, yeah, okay. And then Yamakage.

em

41:07

Oh yes, so they're very specifically in third year. Yamaguchi is our captain, Kageyama is our vice captain. So we're husbands, you know?

rainbow

41:15

like what was that like, yeah, like, just like spending time together figuring out formations and talking about things and like coming up with practice plans, like I think it's fun. I think you had a really cute idea where Yamaguchi has like just a little crush on Kageyama. Yes, yes, yeah, and like and that's cute, but it's it's hard for me with Kageyama because it is just like well for him it's Hinata. You know it could have been Oikawa, but Oikawa didn't want it, and so it's it's Hinata who understands him, and I think that's where it comes from with kagehina, is that they understand each other on a level that, like I don't think anyone else does. Yeah, even like Atsumu. Even Atsumu is like this is your rivalry is too much even for me. And listen, we'll get to.

em

41:55

Atsumu ships in season four.

rainbow

41:57

Yeah, season four. Yeah, don't worry, we will talk plenty about. Atsumu when we get there. And not to say that I'm not an Atsuhina shipper because I am. And not to say I'm not an Atsukage shipper because I am Not that I'm not.

em

42:11

Okay.

rainbow

42:12

Atsukage Hina Shipper. Anyway, moving on, okay, KenHina.

em

42:18

Yes, so KenHina, obviously they are, they just start being together. I mean, Kenma is his sugar daddy.

rainbow

42:30

He is literally he like. So he owns a company, bouncing Ball LLC, which you can't tell me. He didn't create that solely so that I bet. I bet the conversation went, Kenma going hey, I have a bunch of money, why don't I give you a bunch of money so that you can go to Brazil? And he was like no, I couldn't possibly accept that. And so Kenma was like okay, well, I have this company and we can sponsor you and Hinata's, like well, that makes sense. Yeah for sure, oh, my god, yeah. And then, and you know, and and I do love the like you know, if you're, if you stop being interesting, I'll drop you, which he only says that because he knows Hinata will never stop being interesting.

em

43:00

For sure, and I like to think of Kenma's house being like a very common landing ground for Hinata when he's back in his home.

rainbow

43:06

Yes, yeah, he like he likes to stay there a lot. Again, I just think they're very comfortable together and I think even like, if you don't ship them romantically and like Kuro Ken are together, I still think Hinata is Kenma's favorite person and Kuro has just accepted that. He is definitely Hinata's biggest fan. He buys all of his merch. I think he has a room in his home just filled with Ninja Shoujo. Yes, like, cutouts and posters. That's KenHina. And then we have oi hina, which I think you can make the case for.

43:39

OiHina in like the in, you know, pre-time skip, I think you could still see them, but it's really in the time skip in brazil, when the shipping for them becomes strong, like that's when I think they hook up for the first time. Again, I don't necessarily see them as end game, I don't see them as like a long term ship, but I do see them as like, when they get together, they get together, they have fun. That's the thing about OiHina is Hinata reminds Oikawa that volleyball is fun, and so I think there's just a lot of that mixed in there where, like, and Oikawa helps bring Hinata out of his depression, he like reminds him that he's not alone and that he can do this, and like he's not the only person who's doing this, and other people have done it before. Furudate. Just thank you so much for giving us OiHina.

44:24

And then, I guess, when we get to season three, we can talk a little bit about Ushikage. That is definitely a ship, for sure, but I feel like we just don't get enough of Ushigema to really have him here. We can also talk about Ushioi when we get there. But, yeah, what are your feelings on Oihina, the?

em

44:39

fucking selfie that shook the world. I'm so obsessed with Kageyama's reaction to the selfie that Shouyo sent some of him and Oikawa hanging out in Brazil Like it's giving jealous it is, I don't know. So like yeah, I absolutely subscribe to the idea that maybe things got a little freaky in Brazil. But even if you want to like, just even from a platonic standpoint, like they're similar, Hinata is just a lot kinder, but like it makes sense that they get along so well.

rainbow

45:05

I abso-fucking-lutely and I love that the respect that Oikawa gains for Hinata in Brazil like playing on beach with him and and the respect that Hinata already has for Oikawa and it kind of goes from this like the grand king and Chibi-chan, to Toro-san and Shou-chan.

45:22

That hug that they have at the Olympics is so cute. And there is, oh my god, I wish I could remember the artist. There's a great fucking art of that that like shows them, like they like kiss each other and everyone's like what the fuck? And it's like that's just how you greet each other in in latin america and it's, it's, it's just beautiful. Yeah, I think that's it for our rare pair episode. So many characters, so many remixes. They're so. Yeah, there's so many more that we could have talked about and if we missed any of your faves, apologies.

45:51

We'll get to them eventually yeah, yeah and we only have more characters coming we just told you about so many different ways that you can contact us you have the information.

em

46:00

Next week we'll get into a lot of game times.

rainbow

46:03

Yes, we're getting into episode 12.

em

46:05

Let the games begin and remember, always make it about shipping and fly high.