Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
We look at Haikyuu through an intersectional, queer lens.
Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
S3E5: One vs. Many
"I didn’t come here to see someone win, I can here to watch someone lose." "You’re such a piece of crap."
This week, rainbow and em cover season 3, episode 5 "One vs. Many" and discuss an iconic UshiHina moment, the quickness with which Shiratorizawa takes the third set, and the intensity of the beginning of set four.
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rainbow
00:00
it's time to record our podcast yaoi time.
em
00:08
It's the yaoi hour.
rainbow
00:10
Ah yaoi time, uh, doing a morning zoo thing. Those are the presets. All right, you ready, I'm ready. Hello everyone, and welcome to Fly A Queer Haikyuu Podcast. I'm Rainbow, they she.
em
00:37
And I'm Em. And today we are talking about season three, episode five. One versus many. In the sub it's titled individual versus numbers.
rainbow
00:53
And this is the first time where I prefer the dub title. Yeah, that is interesting. I noticed that and I wasn't sure, because I have a spreadsheet with all of the episodes, like a planning spreadsheet, and I have all the titles written down. I can't remember if I pulled those from Wikipedia or Crunchyroll, but I definitely had like one versus many written down and I saw individual versus numbers elsewhere but I was like I don't like that one and we're going with one versus many.
em
01:13
Yeah, I'm sure it's like a literal kind of translation.
rainbow
01:16
Yeah, but before we get into that, we do have a little bit of chit chat, which also feels like housekeeping.
em
01:22
Rainbow has an important disclaimer from last week's episode.
rainbow
01:26
Well, it's just we talked a lot about Harry Potter and we failed to mention that JK Rowling isa huge TERF and that that's not okay. I think if you listen to this podcast, you know we're not okay with the things JK Rowling is doing. But I just felt like, if we're going to be talking about that IP, we should like remind ourselves and everyone else that JK Rowling is a huge fucking TERF and she is doing things that actively harm the trans community across the planet because she has an international platform and she is using it to do really disgusting things. And you know I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. Like I loved Harry Potter growing up. Like that is the closest thing to a sacred text I had in my childhood and you know I still engage with fan made content. I really like, like queering the text with Harry Potter. I think that's a really fun way, especially if you add in, like some trans characters as a big fuck you.
02:17
You know I don't spend money on Harry Potter stuff anymore. I don't stream the movies. I will not. If they do make a TV show, I won't watch it. I don't. I won't be going to Harry Potter world Like I think, if it weren't for the JK Rowling stuff. Who in IQ Hogwarts houses would have been like one of the very first scenarios we did.
em
02:37
Yeah, no, I could tell, especially when Rainbow and I first got together and the way you would talk about Jake. I mean, obviously you know a lot of people feel this way but I could tell it was very personal for you because she was like a hero at one point and you loved her writing and it's hard to feel.
rainbow
02:50
It's like being betrayed, I think she, no, she fully betrayed her fans. Yeah, um, in one of the worst ways. And I think for me because, like I, I have always wanted to be an author. Like I am a writer and I really, like I was like, oh my god, what if I could create something like Harry Potter that so many people love and so many people engage with? And I just can't imagine having that kind of engagement and then your own like fear of something you don't understand overwhelming you so much to the point where you are like actively harming people, a lot of whom love your story, because it is a story about accepting people who are different and about loving people and about not oppressing people. Like love is the greatest power we have, but you can't show any love to your fellow human beings because you don't understand their gender identity. It's just, it's mind-blowing, it's disgusting. I hope Warner Brothers can sue her and get her out of her contract and then anything they do with Harry Potter does not give her money, because that is like the only thing I can think of right now, as she is alive, that would make me feel at all okay with engaging in any like legitimate Harry Potter stuff and even then it would only be the movies, because the books still belong to her and yeah
03:56
so, yeah, I just I really wanted to say that and I wanted to give voice to that, because I do think it's important, if you're going to talk about Harry Potter and you're a queer space, to just, you know, say, hey, we know that she's fucked up and she's horrible, and we don't want any of our trans listeners to think that we are okay with what she's doing, because we are absolutely not. And again, I think it is because of those potential listeners that I haven't felt comfortable doing a who in Haikyuu Hogwarts house, because I just don't want to give that kind of attention.
04:23
Although I don't know, maybe we will someday, because it's not like we'd be giving her any money and we can do a big disclaimer at the top, but just not right now. Maybe we'll wait till season four. There's definitely some Slytherins in season four, oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, okay, yeah. So that's it for that. We just we wanted to put that out and I think we can. We can move on.
04:41
I have one little piece of housekeeping. So I was talking about the little like piece of hair that comes out of the top of Yamaguchi's head, and I don't know if it actually is one of these, because he has like a second little piece. But that little like single piece of like hair that like bends at the top, it's called an ahogue and it literally translate to translates to foolish hair and it is like a thing in anime that you see in manga and anime and it's just like it's a little. It's a little, you know, I think it's supposed to. I think it's supposed to show that a character might have a little bit of like naivete in them.
em
05:14
Often used to convey a character's airheadedness or foolishness.
rainbow
05:19
So yeah, but I couldn't remember the name of that last week and so I was like I have to look it up because I know what this thing is. Yeah, and I think I mentioned every single main character in Danganronpa gets one, because they're always a little foolish.
em
05:30
Without further ado. Shall we get into the recap? Yes, we should. It's my turn, my turn. All right, I'll count you down Three, two one.
rainbow
05:39
Karasuno has taken the second set, but Shiratorizawa is undeterred, winning the third set. Before the audience has time to realize what's happened. After Ushijima has words with Hinata, the fourth set begins and both teams are determined to win, staying neck and neck for the whole first half of the game. Will Karasuno manage to score enough points to keep the match going, or will Shiratorizawa's pure power overwhelm them? Oh, very nice, thank you. I was pretty proud of that one. I really I've kind of taken a page out of your book. All I need to do is start saying find out today in this week's episode of haikyuu, um, okay, yeah. So we are uh jumping back into the episode and we have uh Tendo reflecting on Tsukishima's super awesome block from the last episode. Yeah, he's like that damn brat with the glasses. Oh, in the dub he calls him a four-eyed douche, which.
06:27
I really appreciate.
em
06:29
He also right after that he thinks about how Washijo hasn't yelled at them yet, but he calls him Tanji-kun. Oh, that's adorable. It reminds me of how, like, tanaka kind of refers to Takeda as Takachan. Yeah, yeah, I love when the students give the coaches cutesy nicknames.
rainbow
06:48
It's really adorable and that's such a Tendo move. Tendo's always giving somebody a cute little nickname.
em
06:52
He's a sweet boy. Yeah, Tendo is just the definition of unserious.
rainbow
06:57
Yeah, it's pretty great. And so after Tendo thinks this, Coach Washijo calls for Shirabu and everyone tenses up, Everyone's like oh God. And Shirabu like, turns to him and he's like ready to get, you know, yelled at. But instead of yelling, Washijo says judging by the look on your face, I guess you already know yeah, he's like I don't have to yell at you.
em
07:18
You know what you did wrong.
rainbow
07:19
Which I thought was interesting. We've seen that before with Ukai, where, like he was about to yell at somebody oh, that happened with Yamaguchi whenever he like flubbed that serve, or he didn't flub it, but he did like not a great serve, and Inoshita had to kind of cut in front of him and be like hey, man, he already knows. Yeah, which I feel like is interesting, because I feel like that kind of shows the difference between Washijo and Ukai and like just their experience as coaches because Washijo's old enough to know, like you know, some players, they already, you don't have to yell at them, you don't need to pile on. And Ukai, because he was just already, he was in his own feelings about it, he was gonna like unleash that on yamaguchi and then inoshita kind of reminded him like hey, you don't have to, like he's punishing himself, kind of thing, Ukai is kind of a baby crow in his own way, he really is, and we'll talk about the, the big crow that comes in later and then.
08:04
But Shirabu says something really interesting, because for a moment, like when Washijo said that, I was like wow, he wasn't that expecting that of him, like I expected him to be really mean. But then Shirabu says if this was a practice match he would have slapped me.
em
08:15
Which not corporal punishment in the 2010s, not the physical abuse of students is that allowed still over there?
rainbow
08:23
I, I don't know. You know, we should have looked that up before we?
em
08:27
I was curious because I was like Jesus OK, you're letting that little man slap you all around. It's probably, I bet it's more normalized still in sports than it is in like the classroom.
rainbow
08:37
Yeah, I could definitely see that, where it's just like, well, we're doing physical stuff, we have to punish you in physical ways and it's please don't. You're a man, I'm gonna slap you like a man, but apparently Shirabu wanted to be slapped, because he does that's like slapping himself on the face with on both cheeks, um, just like micha mia did, yes, um kind of a lock in, slap to himself and everyone like, looks like, oh, he's serious and when he does, look locked in, after his like after you know, he raises his head and his eyes come out of the shadows and he really looks ready.
em
09:05
And then we see that in this third set, because he is showing he's not shaken up yes, Kageyama notes that, you know, despite losing the second set, their setter looks more locked in than before.
rainbow
09:17
And then it's time for the flashback yeah well, right before we get into that, Shirabu thinks to himself about kagehina's freak quick and how cool it is. And then he, there's a flash of Oikawa on the screen, as he thinks.
09:29
I always get awestruck when a setter performs at the top of their game and this kind of leads into the flashback and I did have a headcanon that Shirabu has like a little love, hate crush on Oikawa um, because he like admires him as a setter and he hates that Ushijima is so into him. But he also like admires him in his own way, but then, as we see through this flashback, he doesn't want to be the kind of player that Oikawa is.
em
09:55
No, no, that's the whole thing really. He says Seijo has these elegant attack strategies. But you know, and he was saying how in middle school, like like Shirabu, it was a solid setter and their team was pretty good, but when it came to the finals it was always seijo against Shiratorizawa. And we have Shirabu watching them play against each other and he's kind of thinking like, wow, seijo has these elegant attack styles. What is really cool to him is how Ushijima's power can just break through all of that.
rainbow
10:23
Yeah, setting to Ushijima is the epitome of volleyball for him. Like the way Ushijima plays is what he sees as like the definition of volleyball. And he says how can I become the setter who stands out the least? And I also want to mention so it's middle school, so it's Shiro Torizawa versus Kirigawa Daichi. Oh yes, thank you, not against Seijo, but it's basically seijo because it's iwaoi and like the schools feed into each other. Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder if Shiratorizawa has like like similar to oran high school host club, if it has like a k through 12 thing going on yeah, I mean it's pretty fancy school.
em
10:56
I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, it's for all the rich kids. But yeah, we have Shirabu on the sidelines with his teammate and he says next year I'm gonna go to Shiratorizawa. And I said if I had a nickel for every time a setter watched a spiker to influence their decision, I would have two nickels. We'll talk about that later. But yeah, so he says like that's the coolest form of volleyball and I will become the setter that stands out the least. It's like all right, I mean, some of us do dream about being a background dancer, I guess.
rainbow
11:24
Yeah it couldn't be me, yeah. And then I was shocked when, like, Shiratorizawa took the third set. I forgot this set goes so quickly, like we are. Like what am I like? Six bullet points into my notes and Kurosano has already lost the third set 25 to 18.
em
11:40
Yeah, I said within the first five minutes and mean, you know, I guess we can't really give every set multiple episodes, we'd be here too long and I think it just goes to show like Shiratorizawa and this is even more clear in the manga, but like they were almost getting caught up in the speed trying to stay with Karasuno, but like the third set, they almost like take a breath, slap their faces and get back into their usual rhythm and it kind of brings them back a little bit yeah, I think narratively it makes a lot of sense.
rainbow
12:07
It shows Shiratorizawa's strength as a team that they're able to like take, take one in the face and say, okay, we can do it. Uh, we can, you know, do this next. And I think it also adds weight to these next two sets, because now Karasuno has to win the next two sets if they want to take this match. If they lose the next set, the game is over. If they win the next set, they still have one more set they have to win. So it really heightens the stakes, I think.
em
12:31
And we see it all on NishiNoya's face. He's so frustrated Asahi notices it. And then the way he says this in the sub, he just sounds so fucking cool. But he's like it's unavoidable that the bigger you are, the greater advantage you have in volleyball and no one is bigger than him, meaning Ushijima. But that doesn't matter to a Libro. And he says that again, that he is the one who is equal to Ushijima.
12:52
And we get kind of meaningful looks from both Asahi and Tsukki watching this declaration yes, and then and then the teams are switching sides, right yes, the teams are switching sides and Hinata and Ushijima lock eyes and Ushijima decides this is the time to tear this little bitch down a peg or two. And he says to him, with that impressive jump you did when we first met, I thought you'd have like better technique. You can't even fight with height, so what can you possibly do if your technique is clumsy too and Hinata's like uh, and then he like remembers Yachi teaching him what the word clumsy means.
rainbow
13:27
Yes, um, yeah, I have the exact quote from the dub. He said I assumed, since you move so quickly, that you'd be good at blocks and receives too. Since I outclass you in pure height, do you think your clumsy technique will make up for it? And I have in all caps. We'll see who comes out on top in the end. Ushijima, yeah, yeah, really Nothing makes me angrier than Ushijima being a bitch to one of my faves.
em
13:48
And I love what comes next, because then Kageyama is like hurry up scrub or whatever. And Hinata tells him you're a lot like Ushijima. And Kageyama misunderstands what Hinata means and gets like all shy kind of with the hand on the back of his neck and it's like, well, I wouldn't like to spike like him one day. And then we cut to Hinata face down on the ground like that is not what I meant.
rainbow
14:10
I that is like one of the funniest little like boyfriends moment they ever have. I love and I do love that Kage was kind of bashful about it and like it's like. First of all, like I think anybody comparing him to Ushijima in volleyball terms which is what he thinks is happening he'd be like a little bit like oh my gosh, but I'd like to think that because it's Hinata, he's like oh wow, Hinata. You think I'm like Ushijima? Like that's pretty cool, oh my god it's so cute.
14:36
Oh my god, yeah, it's so. It's really, it's really cute.
em
14:48
I love is he's like what? No, I'm not. I'm not that good. Yet it's funny because he usually gets so flustered when, uh, and like almost angry when Hinata compliments him, so it's a really funny little misunderstanding.
rainbow
14:52
Yeah, and then we have the home run, but before that I wanted to mention we get a team huddle, um, and we get to see Karasuno and um, Ukai and Takeda, and then the um, the non-starters are standing and all of the other starters are sitting on the bench because, I think, for stamina, for the purposes of stamina, because they all have to continue playing and they're probably so tired like watching this game, I do physically like my thighs start to hurt, like especially Asahi and Daichi and Tanaka, I think, are the three who, like they, do not get a single fucking break this episode or this this season. And Kageyama, as the setter and he's the one he has like every, almost every single play he touches the ball Like setters have a lot, and I think they've talked about that before, how it's like really hard on setters these five set matches. But hey, Kageyama's got a five in stamina, so yeah, he can handle it, yeah, and then we get. So now we're back into the game and now we get the home run, yes.
em
15:47
And so Goshiki is like I'm gonna get this one. He's up to serve and it's way out. And the way Tendo leans back and goes home run is so funny yes, oh, my gosh.
rainbow
15:57
and then in the dub at least um, uh, while it's like sailing over their head, tanaka has a little like oh thanks, dude, which is I love that. Oh, also, at the end of their little team huddle, Ukai reminds them that their true power is friendship. I mean teamwork.
em
16:17
I mean it is a shounen, so it's always going to be about the power of friendships in some way.
rainbow
16:21
Yes, okay. So then we have a little. We have Tsukishima talking to Asahi. This is like one of those things that Haikyuu does where we see Tsukishima like, before they go back into the game, before the home run, we see Tsukishima be like, hey, Asahi, and then it cuts away. And then we're like, oh no, what is this? And then, like, literally five seconds later, they're like, oh yeah, remember this. And it's like, yeah, I guess, um, but he, um, he tells Asahi that they can shadow Ushijima's cross on the right to make him send the ball to Noya. And we just we know that Tsukishima has been analyzing Ushijima's spikes and he knows that Noya is Ushiwaka's equal.
em
16:58
Yes, he's like looking back at NishiNoya and thinking the only one equal to. Ushijima. Noya and Tsuki are the champions of this match, If I do say so myself.
rainbow
17:07
Yeah, it's almost like. Sometimes it feels like Hinata, especially Hinata, like Kageyama is like there but he's not as involved with like the rivalry as Hinata is. But it almost feels like Hinata's like rivalry with Ushijima is almost like backgrounded sometimes and it's just kind of there. You just see him like angry and determined but it's really not a focus of a lot of the episodes or if it is focused on, it's for a very small moment, like in this um well, that's what's so great about haikyuu, is?
em
17:34
it's not always about Hinata.
rainbow
17:36
The way that volleyball is about all six players connecting like, we do get these spotlights on the different parts of the team, and especially against Shiratorizawa, like Hinata is still very unexperienced and he's doing what he can, but it really is about this like total defense move mobbing Ushijima and that comes down to like Tsukki and Asahi and Noya most of all yeah, and so that's why we get this moment between them where we see, like, suki and Asahi they, um, it's a, it's a two-person block, and they block Ushijima's cross and he sends it right to Noya and then, I think, Kageyama is able to set it to Asahi and Asahi spikes it through, and then we get a lovely like Noya and Asahi celebrating together. I love whenever Asahi spikes one of Noya's receives, they always, like, have a little celebration. And then they go and like, slap Tsukishima on the back because, like, again, he was the brains behind that whole operation.
em
18:23
Yes, because, like again, he was the brains behind that whole operation. Yes, and I'll just give you a sneak peek in the manga no-transcript, which is very true, especially in this match.
rainbow
18:35
Side note, I want an Asa Noya parenting AU where they adopt a little baby Tsukishima. Oh my god.
em
18:43
We do have Washijo laying into Goshiki again and Goshiki feels like he's being so quiet during this match, except when it comes to me and we have Leon in the background saying do you know why he's tough on you? And Goshiki's like it's because I lack discipline and he's like no, you know he's. Do you know why he's tough on you and Goshiki's like it's because I lack discipline and he's like no, it's because he's counting on you the most. And this fires Goshiki right back up in a ridiculous way. He really reminds me of like a Tanaka I said his personality would really fit in, kind of, with Karasuno.
rainbow
19:09
Yeah, well, I think it's really cute that he's the only first year starter on Shiratorizawa Like, and I'm sure that puts a lot of pressure on him and he feels like he has to be like so big and bad, like he's giving Rock Lee in his personality, I think, in a lot of ways, where he thinks like he has to be like so strong and so powerful and he has to prove himself to people yeah, he reminds me a lot of Kogane, like just this excited first year puppy who wants to do a good job yes, oh yes, and that makes me think of things we get to see later, and I think Rayon is really sweet for this.
19:40
But I also think he was like I like that. He was just like like I think he was just being very honest with Goshiki about like why Washijou picks on him so much, because then whenever Goshiki is doing his like fiery like thing, I think it's Rayon and um and Taichi are just like whoa, okay, dude, like calm down.
em
19:58
Like Rheon wasn't trying to get him that pumped, he was like okay man well, and I think the one guy is like, wow, you really got him going. And Rheon's like, well, it's true, like it's helpful that it's actually true he wasn't.
rainbow
20:07
He wasn't just like trying to fluff him up yeah, um, and do you, did you know what Washijo says to Goshiki in the sub?
em
20:14
I was just curious, because I wrote down what he said in the dub and I thought it was funny um more about just being more firm and where he's standing on the court, but it was nothing like super funny to me, I don't think oh, he says he's like do I need to call child protective services? You're standing around like a lost kid at the mall. Oh my god. Yeah, they definitely did the most with the dub in that one yes, um, okay, yeah.
rainbow
20:35
So then we get um after after Goshiki's um fiery, uh determination. We get Tendo and Tsukishima um, like facing off at the net, and they it's like two philosophies clashing, where Tendo says that blocking is all about intuition and Tsukishima says it's a system yeah, yeah, and it's very like that.
em
20:55
We have a shot of them with the net dividing them and then they walk away from each other. It is Because I mean this. This whole, this whole game is like a battle of concepts, but we're getting a lot of like mini battle of concepts and Tsukki versus Tendo is one of them. Goshki reminds us why he is on Shiratoru Zawa. He gets a really cool tight shot in between, like Kageyama and where the net ends. It's very tight, but he manages to get like a block out shot through.
rainbow
21:19
Well and Kageyama like noticed that Goshiki does like these really like very like tight straight shots, and so Kageyama's like, okay, he's probably going to do that again. And so, like you know, he and Hinata try to block it. But Goshiki, like is proving why he is a starter on Shirator Torazawa. He is good, he has skills, and I think this is the first time I noted just how neck and neck set four is. I feel like every time we go to the scoreboard, like they are going into a deuce, like it's just over and we're not going into a deuce because that's at the end, but they're like, it's like.
21:50
I think this one was like, okay, they're seven and seven and then like 11 and 11, like 14, and Like they're constantly chasing each other with these points, and then we're about to go into the commercial break. But first we get Karasuno doing one of their synchronized attacks, one of the Shiratorizawa blockers who we don't really get a lot of screen time for. His name is Taichi and he's the number 12. And he manages to stop the synchronized attack, but how?
em
22:16
Because he's good, because he's good, because he's good. So we come back from the commercial break and my man, my man, my man is here and he isn't my favorite outfit yet grandpa Ukai comes onto the scene.
rainbow
22:31
I love that. That's what you jumped into, um, because I have a what. What else happens? I just well, you know, we. We talk about how taichi figured out how to stop the synchronized attack. Boring, who cares about the volleyball, daddy you guys here.
em
22:48
Yeah, they outline. It's like he could tell that it probably wasn't going to go to the right because Daichi didn't get in his spot quick enough and, yeah, he kind of like guess, blocked it a little bit, I think yeah, yeah, it was cool.
rainbow
23:00
Um, and I also have a note about the commercial break, because we get to see it's uh Goshiki doing like a cool jump serve and he like manages to hit the bottle and he's so excited. But Shirabu is there with him and he's just like points out that he stepped on the line oh, I totally missed that.
em
23:14
I think the second one is a Kagehina one.
rainbow
23:16
Right it is yeah, yeah, okay, and then, yeah, and then. My note is it's M's favorite character. Grandpa Ukai is here to watch and he calls out Shimada and Takanoe for always going for the ball without thinking.
em
23:27
Yeah, yeah, because, yeah, and it is kind of funny how Takanoe and Shimada can like break down all these plays, but I love having daddy here to remind them like well, when you were under my care, you just did whatever well, and Akitaru is there too, and so when they all all three of them see him and they're all just like, oh god. I love seeing this dynamic. Yeah, it's like seeing mean old grandpa again. And now you gotta act right also okay.
rainbow
23:52
so in the dub, Saeko tells Yachi that that's like the old coach Ukai. So Yachi didn't know that because I thought during one of the I thought during season two Ukai showed up. Maybe Yachi just thought he was like an old man. Oh, you know what he totally does, Because he shows up with two of the kids that Hinata practiced with.
em
24:14
I don't know if he was introduced to her properly, though, Like I remember, because he had like a neighborhood friend and that teacher girl came on and Yachi was standing there, but I don't know if, like I don't think, anyone explained to her who he was.
rainbow
24:27
Oh, okay, yeah, I think I just assumed that she knew, because she's Yachi and she's smart and she knows everything. And also, just, I think that was also me as the audience member. I was like, well, I know who this person is. So obviously everyone else knows who this person is, so I just thought that was interesting. And of course Saeko would know, because she went to school when he was the coach, right. And so she tells Yachi, and Yachi is like, oh my gosh, she's like that's, that's coach, you guys, grandpa.
em
24:51
He's hot in that flannel. She wouldn't think that she's too much of a lesbian. Yeah, well, you're a lesbian too, but I'm, you know, bi sexual by birth, though culturally lesbian culturally, you'd fuck that old man and then this is where we have Washijo saying like you know, this is how it's always been with you, kai, it's a battle between concepts, because you know they're thinking about how reckless that synchro was. But baby, I mean, we're giving you a run for your money.
rainbow
25:19
Well, and we see, while he's having these thoughts, we see an image of both of the teams coming up and facing off and I just kind of like we get to see, like I think it's interesting, who we see standing in front of the other, like it's Hinata versus Ushijima and it's Tsukki versus Tendo, Kageyama versus Shirabu, Asahi versus rayon, tanaka versus Goshiki, which I thought that one was interesting because Goshiki, like has claimed like the title of, like next ace of Shiratorizawa, and I think that's true. He is clearly being like you know, he's being prepared for that. And then we know that tanaka is going to be the ace after Asahi, like he's already said that, because when Hinata says he's going to be the next ace of karasuno, tanaka's like uh-uh, bitch, I'm here, he's like get in line.
em
25:57
Yeah, no rivalry within a rivalry within a rivalry.
rainbow
26:01
Yep, it's really fun. And then we kind of see Ukai talking about his plan for Ushijima and how they want to force him to attack, and I assume that's to wear him down and to tire him out, right, yeah, we get really like technical volleyball speak here, but the point is like, if they do a certain thing, well, we want to get it.
em
26:20
We want to, yeah, force Uchijima to hit as much as possible, because even though he is the Lenny of volleyball, he's still a human being and we got to tire him out because that's probably their best chance of, like, getting overcoming him a little bit.
rainbow
26:32
So we kind of get a breakdown of the plan. Um, they want to have at least two blockers on Ushijima at all times and they want one person all the way in the back, like at the back line, and we see this succeed in real time as Tanaka, as part of a three-person block, gets a one touch and it goes too far for Noya to get it. But, like as Ukai is talking about, like we just have one person there.
em
26:53
We see Asahi like stretching out his arm and he just is able to get it up in the air and this is so that they don't have to just rely on Hinata or Tanaka pulling off like a spider-man move. You know, we want to be prepared for this yes, absolutely.
rainbow
27:08
And so we have. You know, we have this, um, you know, Asahi making this great save, and then Tanaka goes to spike it, but Tendo blocks him. And then we get one of my favorite moments, which is miracle boy Tendo Satori.
em
27:22
He's like a magical girl yeah, oh, I'm surprised we haven't had a sailor moon moment where he transforms, yet oh my gosh, I now need a magical girl.
rainbow
27:30
Tendo fic and we get.
em
27:31
Tendo breaking it down for Rayyan, I believe of like you know, tanaka didn't really have time to take note of the blockers and he looked where he was gonna spike and Rayon's like oh, so that's how we knew. And there is intuition. Intuition is kind of king with Tendo, but there is like a system there as well.
rainbow
27:46
He's paying attention well, I mean Shirabu said it in the third episode. I think it was where, like time, like you know you're, you're, you're the way, you your timing. If, like Tendo, catches on to anything you're done, for he just needs like small pieces of information and then I think his intuition takes him the rest of the way. And I love because, like he just got this block and as he's like explaining this to Rayan, he's like pumping up the crowd, he's like he's giving like Bokuto in this moment, honestly, he's like, yes, he's like shower me with your praise crowd and I, I, he's like, yes, he's like shower me with your praise crowd, and I'm excited to talk about stuff like that in a little bit, in a few episodes, when we really get more into Tendo and his backstory. So then Ushijima does like a super one of the super powerful serves where it like hits the court and like bounces up into the stands.
em
28:30
Yeah, and Suga is so funny here. His face is just he's just so done. He's like well, is he, mr? Perfect, like he's just so done, and I get it. This is so annoying. You should be in college level volleyball.
rainbow
28:42
Get the fuck out of here yeah, in the dub he says how's that Ushiwaka guy, even a real person. He's just so angry, um. And then we get a nice little Tsukikage combo, um, where, you know, Kageyama does like a, a nice little set for Tsukishima um, and they don't even bitch at each other. It's amazing, I know.
em
29:02
I was like waiting for a follow-up, but no, they just did a successful hit, good job guys.
rainbow
29:06
Good for them. You know what that's growth? Um. And then Hinata comes back on the court and suki is a cunt to him. That's, we didn't get cunty between Kageyama and Tsukishima because we had to get Tsukihina cuntiness, of course when he says something like how about you try to score points while you're up front? We could use some.
em
29:24
You know he's sassy in the manga too, but I think in the sub he just says if you don't get any points while you're in the front, nothing's going to start. But yeah, no, I mean I think in the manga he's. He's like if you don't do your job, we're not going to score points.
rainbow
29:35
And what do you think this is? Do you think he's intentionally trying to rile Hinata up, because he knows, like Hinata, like will go like faster and harder, yeah, and I think he is just like it's funny, suki everyone has.
em
29:47
Tsukki has a begrudging, I think, respect for the fact that, like Kageyama, like you score points, so like that's the only reason you're on this court, because you technically kind of suck still, so do your job.
rainbow
29:58
I think it's him being a bitch, but also like trying to get Hinata a little fired up yeah, I think he's using his bitchiness like in a very tactical way, because he knows if Hinata is challenged, Hinata will like meet that challenge head on, and and I think we see that um in the moves that that come up next. And then I think this is where we get Suga asking Yamaguchi what Ushijima said to Hinata between games.
em
30:22
Yes, and we get Hinata's impression of Ushijima. His little face turns kind of into a mini Ushijima and he's told Yamaguchi like I don't know what.
rainbow
30:31
Do you remember? I have the exact line from the dub Go ahead, it's shrimps are only for eating, not for playing volleyball.
em
30:38
That is crazy. I think in the sub the titles are like you should die or something, I think I I have it actually.
rainbow
30:44
Let me pull it up.
em
30:45
I have it saved and Suga's like did he really say that? And yamaguchi is like Hinata said.
rainbow
30:50
That was basically summing it up he says a shrimp that sucks like you has no reason to live yep, that's it.
em
30:57
I'm sure that's how it felt, Hinata.
rainbow
31:00
I mean that definitely feels like an accurate depiction of, like how Hinata took those words. Oh yeah, and I would say I don't think it's so much like you don't deserve to live, but I think, like Ushijima really did mean like why the fuck are you even on this court? You're gonna find out, bitch. Yeah, you fucking are. Suga says Hinata wouldn't be here if he were the type to get his spirit broken by a few insults. Yes, and I really like that and I think that just perfectly sums up his character and like, yeah, he wouldn't be able to be on the same team as Kageyama if he were gonna break from a few insults.
em
31:33
this is when Hinata shows everybody why he's here. So he goes to block, but first he backs up and does a run up to the block Like he's doing a spike.
rainbow
31:44
And Grandpa Ukai notes that he looks like he has wings. When he does that run up.
em
31:49
Yeah, in the sub he says running up gives you man-made wings and he's able to. And he comes up even taller than the person next to him and then he yells it over the net to Ushijima I never said I wasn't gonna fight with height oh yeah, okay.
rainbow
32:03
So in the um it must be a mouth flap thing, because all he says in the in the dub is how do you like that? How do you like me? Now, which I said, um cowboy has no idea what mistake, what a mistake it was to rile Hinata up like he did.
em
32:19
Yeah, and I like this sub because it's really him throwing Ushijima's words back in his face.
rainbow
32:24
Yeah, I wish they could have worked that out better in the dub, because the how do you like that just is a little bit more just like generic, but I really like that. He's very specific, of course, because it's personal, and ROG, random old guy is very excited about this block. He's even all blushy.
em
32:40
He is all blushy. He goes that 10 finally did a decent block and him and one of the other guys, because there's two guys sitting in front of him and they have a bit of a back and forth and the other friend is like why are they talking like they know each other? And this little temporary friendship really reminds me of like when you make a friend in a long line at a ride or something like that.
rainbow
33:03
Yes, like me, every time I go to an amusement park, it's like the person either somebody behind me or somebody in front of me. By the time we get to the ride, we're all riding together.
em
33:07
And I love how Saeko words this she's like. I've fallen for Shoyo all over again. He should do that all the time. And Shimada points out like no, no, no, if he first of all, it wouldn't work on fast attacks. And I said I know she's sick of these two mansplaining volleyball to her, I know yeah, I want a moment where she's just like you know what?
rainbow
33:24
let Yachi explain it to me. I'd rather hear it from a girl. Um, and then Takanoe accidentally admits in front of their old coach that he was always trying to do as little work as possible in games. And then he's like, oh, I mean remembering.
em
33:38
Grandpa Ukai is right behind him and he just smiles and he's like I have no complaints if you can successfully be lazy and I also. Hinata hits runs into the net at one point in this moment.
rainbow
33:49
Yeah, so he tries to do another run up, but he like runs directly into the net and Kageyama yells at him yes.
em
33:57
But and then? So? Grandpa Ukai also says you know, when it comes to shrimpy, he has no choice but to jump.
rainbow
34:00
There's no laziness for Hinata, he can't afford it yeah, and while we get Noya um coming in, he says he's like hey, Hinata, I have like something to tell you from coach and I can't remember. I think it happens in the manga at some point. I don't think it ever happens in the anime, but we do get a note kind of explaining that the Libro because they're going on and off the court so often, they often act as like a little go-between between the coaches and the team and I think we see that quite a few times with Noe, where he's like hey, coach said this and I like that. The Libro gets this kind of like almost messenger role. It kind of like adds to like their duties, yeah yeah, yeah, it is cool, um yeah.
em
34:37
And he tells shoyo, like you know, obviously you want to have a straight up jump, but do what you need to do and the flanks will support you and tanaka and Kageyama are both ready for that job yes, and then is it time.
rainbow
34:51
Are we ready to talk about them?
em
34:54
so more characters and cool casual clothing appear where we have.
rainbow
35:00
Iwaoi is in the building yes, we have Iwaizumi walking up and we're all squealing as we're like oh my god, it's Iwaizumi. And then he's like I didn't expect to see you here. And then it's Oikawa, like hiding in the very back row, like clutching his knees, like oh, I've been caught, and then he tries to act all cool and can we have some commotion for the glasses? Can I hear a little commotion for the dress? Like clutching his knees, like oh, I've been caught, and then he tries to act all cool and can we have some commotion for the glasses? Can I hear a little commotion for the dress, can we? Can we take a moment to talk about Rainbow's reaction? It's Rainbow's reaction time Because I was not prepared for Oikawa to have glasses.
35:34
Because it feels, first of all, it feels like cheating. He's already like so, like handsome and cool and whatever. And then you give him glasses and, unlike in a 90s American teen movie, glasses do not make people ugly. Often they make them even hotter in a different way, and that's what's happened with Oikawa, and I think that's unfair to the fandom.
em
35:55
Yeah, no, he's dressed so cool and of of course he has to be surly and is like, well, you know, I'm gonna watch him. One. Someone lives today and the wise me drops down in the seat, one seat apart because they're not gay. Five feet apart because they're not gay, fucking for real, like just sit next to each other. You're already up in like the nosebleeds. No one's gonna see if your pinkies graze it's.
rainbow
36:16
No, it's because he's embarrassed over that super gay thing he said to him the night before because, like you know, for us it's been episodes and episodes, but actually in real time, like a night the night before is when they like lost their game and had their big declaration about you're the greatest setter in the world and all that. So he literally I think he really is has to be like no homo about it, because he's like I'm having feelings for my best friend. It's like post one night stand awkwardness, fucking for real. Yeah, I really love it and I like Iwa's casual outfit, like I love his, like I think he's secretly a little bit into fashion, like in a men's fashion kind of way, but like I could see that for him.
em
37:01
And I do like what Aikawa says, because he is trying to like play it really cool and he's like I didn't come here to see someone win, I came here to watch someone lose. And then Iwazumi says you're such a piece of crap. And then Oikawa says about Hinata he sure is a monster, but it must be tough having to stick around that monster cutting to Tobio and this is the first hint that we get that like he hasn't. He's just been going and he's probably been touching the volleyball the most out of everybody and we're in the fourth set, so things are going to start to get real.
rainbow
37:20
And then we have Hinata and Tanaka going to block back down on the court. Hinata, kind of like, runs into Tanaka while trying to block Ushijima and he gets a one touch which we can tell Ushijima is like pissed off about. And then he goes to spike it and as he's running, Kageyama says don't fade on me, Hinata. And he just says why?
em
37:40
don't you shut up, yeah, and the sub is like don't you dare get tired? And Hinata says shut up, and he's running and it it works as a decoy because they're kind of looking at Hinata.
rainbow
37:49
But then Tanaka Kageyama sets to Tanaka I think because to know like it's distracted by Hinata being a decoy, it it's really cool. He's like having a thought, he's like, wow, he's really running all the way over there. And then he goes oh crap, and then he tries to get his hands on Tanaka's ball.
em
38:02
But yeah. So Ukai says you know, good job supporting Hinata Tanaka, and Tanaka goes into a haiku. I'm going to want to say haiku, Haiku haiku.
rainbow
38:18
Thank you, and it is. Do you have the translate do? You have what it says in the, I have what it says in the dub and I counted out the syllables, and it is a true haiku. A true haiku because it's 575 and it's an upperclassman. His only job is to help those younger than he oh, that is good.
em
38:30
Oh okay, I do have the, the sub translation, right here, and it's definitely not a direct translation, because it says it's a senpai's job to always be there and help his precious juniors. And I, ladies and gentlemen, because I'm learning Japanese, I still don't know any kanji whatsoever though, so I was trying to translate, and I know it goes like ko hai wo, something, something, something, senpai da, and I was trying so hard to figure out what the exact translation was. If anyone knows, please let me know. I tried to google it nothing.
rainbow
38:57
I will say those like those little like in, like word endings or like sentence endings, like the woe and the da and the wa and the cut, like all of that is like I need like a chart telling me what all of those mean, because duolingo is not doing a good job.
em
39:11
I like no, but it gets tough when it gets to like the is it go or should it be wa here? And yeah, no, it's a lot it's, you know.
rainbow
39:17
I mean, it's a completely different language.
em
39:19
So yeah, half their sentences are these like um, particle markers kind of um, but yeah so and Tsukki, in the background goes a haiku. Then we're getting to the end of the episode.
rainbow
39:30
My very last note is that Washijo is sure that their pure power is enough to overcome all of karasuno's little tricks. But Ukai knows that there's more to volleyball than just pure power.
em
39:41
Yeah, he thinks if this was just about a person's height and power, this match would be much simpler. But because it's not, that's what makes it so interesting.
rainbow
39:48
Yeah, and I think that's what makes volleyball such an interesting sport. And like, because it is not. Like that's the thing is, it feels like Washe never learned the lesson that volleyball is about connection. Yeah, like it's like he doesn't understand the deeper metaphor. He's just like, yes, well, the, the plays connect so that ushi jima can hit the ball really hard, and that's the episode, that's it, and I'm I'm so stoked and it's just like oh wait, so we have, we're on episode five, we have what? Five more left? And that's, it's gonna be the second half of the fourth set and the fifth set, yep, and then you know the aftermath of the match.
em
40:21
We have a lot to get through.
rainbow
40:23
Well, and you don't worry, they're going to drag it out by giving us lots of character backstory.
em
40:27
Yeah, you know, I kept thinking of this as Shirabu's episode, but honestly he just has that flashback in the beginning and that's kind of it.
rainbow
40:33
I don't really know if we really get back with Shirabu much.
em
40:37
There's a lot that happens in this episode, which leads me to manga versus anime, because this one episode covers seven chapters. This definitely was the most. I felt like our timeline is getting shifted around, like things were happening in different order.
rainbow
40:52
Yeah, listeners, I just want to say so. Last night Im was doing her manga versus anime and I like walked in and out of the room a couple times and every time I came back in I was like surely she's not still reading the manga. And she was.
em
41:03
Oh my god, to do my Haikyuu homework took me like an hour and a half last night. You guys, I do this for you. My hands look like this, so you can look like this. Okay, so more players finishing like in games and then people coming to the game surprised that their final match is still going and more people are trickling in to check it out and these are just random people, not people we know randos yes, I think it's just to show that, like karasuno is really kicking up a stir and they're gonna be.
41:39
They're really like they're kind of establishing themselves again as like a team to be taken seriously, I think, with this game. Okay. And then, oh, and I thought this was interesting in the Shirabu flashback he specifically says when he's like reflecting on how he could be a setter for Ushijima, he thinks a style where it might be possible to win whole games using just a four the entire time. And then we also just a little thing in the stands during the finals. Um, during this game against Shiratorizawa, Shirabu's old teammate is there and saying how he plays so differently now, because I think Shirabu used to have a bit more of a personality as a setter and stood out more, but now his whole thing is like let me lay down the path for Ushijima to walk on.
42:19
And then what was really interesting about this was we get insight as to why Kageyama was passed on Shiratorizawa, which I wish they had kept in. But the other coach says to Washijo maybe it was a mistake to pass up on Kageyama. But Washijo says, nah, there's no need for a setter with that strong of a personality on this team and he goes on to say maybe he'd make a passable hitter. But no, from what I saw, he had a really strong attachment to being a setter. This team wouldn't be a good fit for him. He wouldn't be happy here. That's so interesting and I think that's totally true. Kageyama obviously was meant to be on Karasuno.
rainbow
42:55
Yes, and you know what? And I want to touch on that when we get to the spoiler zone.
em
42:59
Okay. So then, moving on, yamaguchi is brought in to pinch serve in the third set, but it goes out right away, so it's quick, so I guess they decided to cut that out. And then just an extra line when Hinata is telling Kageyama, he's like Ushijima, he thinks, especially the cold, merciless grip. You're hard out with a word part, and I already said how Azamane Asahi thinks that Tsukki is developing into the block leader. And then I just grabbed some images that I thought were funny because we didn't touch on this, but it was a quick moment where Yachi notes that she's seen Tsukki look annoyed before, but looking frustrated is new. There's like a thought bubble where Tsukki is trying to help Kagehina study and he looks annoyed. So at the end of one of the chapters we have Kageyama he's like you know, doing that, like clicking his tongue, like tch, and Hinata is saying you sound like a ticking clock. And Kageyama was like no, he doesn't. Oh, he's saying it to Tsukki because Tsukki keeps going tch. And Kageyama's thinking no, he doesn't. What's a? It says Tobio doesn't get jokes. Kageyama and Tsukki says your majesty, you have precious little brain power as it is, don't waste it. Kageyama doesn't get jokes, our little autistic king. This is why you know I don't say the autism thing lightly. Okay, the proof is in the pudding.
44:17
We also have an image at the beginning of chapter 170. Oh, I think I failed to note. This covers chapters 164 to 171. Covers chapters 164 to 171. In the beginning of chapter 170, we have another like Ushijima is facing off with Hinata and Ushijimi Ushijima is towering over Hinata with a big sword, phallic and a shield with an eagle on it and he looks very like dressed to the nines. And then we have Hinata in this demon costume that I'm obsessed with. I need fan art of it and he's got the club because he's the demon club. It's like a video game, I just noticed, because there's like the fight option.
rainbow
44:49
Yeah, and it's like all pixelated and stuff. Yeah, it's definitely giving like Ushijima is like the big boss and Hinata has to like fight him With just a club Just a club.
em
44:59
And then we have, at the end of another chapter, an Iwa-Oi illustration where Iwa is holding up this book, where it illustrates so there's a fish that's called the pale chub, which has the name Oikawa, and he's showing it to Oikawa and he looks very excited and Oikawa's like why do you look so proud of yourself? I also just have to note like Oikawa is a type of fish. Tobio is flying fish, I don't know. I don't know, I'm just connecting dots. I think there's something there. There's a fishy love story.
rainbow
45:30
But yeah, no, this was Mermaid AU.
em
45:32
What? Mermaid AU, a pale chub and a flying fish. That's what they call me in high school. Okay, that's all I got for manga versus anime. Now it's time for our character spotlight.
rainbow
45:46
And who else could it be? But, uh, Shirabu Kenjiro. Um, thank you very much, m, for that lovely manga versus anime and thank you for doing all of that. Seven chapters is no joke. You know, I'm strong, you really are. Um, yes, but for the character spotlight, we are talking about Shirabu Kenjiro um, pretty excited again.
46:03
I don't think we really get another episode that focuses on him the way that this one does, and even then it's not. It's not as much focus as I thought it was. I feel like this season there's like a lot of like you know, character like arcs and spotlights kind of like go over a few episodes. You know like I feel like we're taking like I feel like it's two or three episodes for like a particular like subplot or storyline, and so we're kind of finishing out Shirabu's because, you know, last episode was him like really falling apart under Tsukishima's blocking and this one was him really like getting back into it, locking back in, and we also get to like understand him a little bit deeper.
46:39
Um, and speaking of that, I have, of course, a quote from the wiki. Though he appears serious and composed, Shirabu is extremely hot-headed and gets annoyed, gets annoyed at many counter methods his opponents used. When he is shown to be affected by the pressure applied to him, Shirabu is just as quick to realize his mistakes and correct himself. Shirabu is very studious and hard-working. He was stated by a previous schoolmate to have already possessed excellent grades, but became even more dedicated to his studies when he decided to attend Shiratorizawa so he could play alongside Ushijima Yep, that is in the manga?
47:10
Yeah, because it's very clear that like he, you know, I think, with Shiratorizawa, like he wasn't a good enough setter to be recruited, but I think he like worked really hard and passed the interview. He did what Kageyama tried to do and failed at, because Kageyama is book dumb, yeah, book dumb, yes, okay. And then, moving on to his name, meaning we have his family name, Shirabu, which means white cloth, and then his given name, Kenjiro. I thought this was really interesting. It's intelligent.
em
47:39
Second son I think that makes a lot of sense actually.
rainbow
47:41
It does Well, because he's like know, Semi is a year older than him and was the starting setter, and then Shirabu is kind of the second son as far as setters, but he's really intelligent. He's like what Washijo is looking for in a setter, um, so I thought that was.
em
47:56
That was very interesting yeah, and the way that like people usually. Well, if you're talking about like game of thrones times, people don't really care about the second son.
rainbow
48:03
He's in the background except, yeah, and that's what Shirabu wants. He wants to be in that background. Um, okay, moving on. So he, of course, goes to Shiratorizawa academy. He is in class 2-4. His position is setter. His height is 5'9 or about 175.26 centimeters.
em
48:21
His birthday is may 4th, making him a taurus I actually have a one of my good friends has this birthday and I think it's fitting. I'm getting certainly earth sign vibes. They don't mind being like a foundation. They don't need to be in the spotlight but I also see with taurus.
rainbow
48:37
I see that like bullish, like anger and like I'm thinking.
em
48:41
Especially miss it from last episode yeah, yeah, no, I I really I fuck with this. This is fitting.
rainbow
48:48
My brother's a tourist and I can kind of see this. His favorite food is shirasu, which I didn't know very much about. So I looked it up and I got this information from a very trusted source, zojirushi dot com. I don't know what that is, but anyway I took their word for it. So shirasu is a simple seafood dish consisting of either raw or boiled, boiled and salted. Okay, so it's either raw or it's boiled, salted and dried juvenile whitefish, so it's usually anchovies, sardines or round herring, and each of those have their own name, and when the fish is raw it's called shirasu, but when they're boiled they're called um, kagamag uh shirasu. So he likes it raw. He likes it raw, um and yeah, and it says it's um raw shirasu is delicately chewy and is scented with the ocean. Sounds not good. I yeah, I don't know if I would like it um, I bet Yaku from Nekoma would like it. No, Kuroo would like it, because Kuroo's the fish and Yaku's the beef. Do you know what I'm talking?
em
49:55
about?
rainbow
49:55
not at all anyway, other people out there know um. And then his current worry he wants to be taller. Why? Very simple. Well, he's only five nine. I yeah, I guess, I guess it's.
50:06
It's interesting because it's like I do sometimes with the current worries I'm like this doesn't tell me anything about his character no, this feels like a worry for most high school volleyball players, I would feel yeah, anyone who's under six feet, they want to be taller, yeah, um, okay, moving on to his ability parameters, um, his power is only a two, but his speed and his jumping are threes, technique and stamina fours, and his intelligence is also a four.
em
50:30
Makes sense. That's a setter's ability right there.
rainbow
50:33
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, he doesn't need a lot of power, but boy is he smart. Well, Cheraboo, you have an interesting haircut. I do like his hair.
em
50:46
All right. Moving on to the world's favorite game, it's time for who in Haikyuu? This week's scenario is brought to you by us once again. We never stop thinking and we are going to do. Who in Haikyuu are these Abbott Elementary characters?
rainbow
50:55
Yes, if you don't watch Abbott Elementary, what the fuck are you doing?
em
51:00
It really is, I think, one of the best modern comedy sitcoms right now. It really sticks to the rule of like there should be a joke on every page. It's just banger after banger. And so we watch it every Thursday, we love it and we were thinking like, oh, we should. We need to do an Abbott Elementary one, especially because and we'll start off strong Kagehina are Gregory and Janine, I mean absolutely.
rainbow
51:22
Gregory is like the most autistic character on television right now, yes, um. And then janine is a tiny spunky like happy-go-lucky, wants to be friends with everyone, gets made fun of for being short, like they. Just it's perfect. It's perfect. And and even like you know gregory, when he started he was a lot more like not really into being a teacher. He was like I want to be a principal which, like, let's talk for a second. If I want to be a principal which, like, let's talk for a second, if you want to be a principal, you better start by being a teacher. You don't, you need to work your way up. I hate when people want to go into, like immediately go into management positions in a field where they have not worked at like the lower level yet, or quote unquote, lower level, like teachers. I'm sorry.
em
52:07
You can tell which leaders have like have gone through it and who have just been placed there, and I would almost say, um, early Gregory is kind of Ushijima in a way yeah, a little bit. He's a little bit more like elitist yeah, and, but more flat and just like.
rainbow
52:19
I would also say there's like a gendered thing going on there, with Gregory wanting to be a principal. It's like this we talked about it where it's just like even in fields where it's like mostly women, like often a man, will be put in the position of power because of patriarchy and hierarchies, yeah, Right away, Barbara, I want to give to Suga I was going to give Melissa to Suga.
52:43
That that's true, I could see that. Or tanaka, I could see also. No, tanaka is the head of the pta guy, janine's ex-boyfriend oh my god, I can't remember his name, but he's. Yeah, but no, melissa. Melissa is giving Suga to me. I mean barbara is giving more like Daichi or Asahi to me. Okay, a little bit more buttoned up, yeah, yeah, because melissa's got that like oh, she's a little, she's a little crazy, you know and then, who is Ava
53:14
Oikawa. [yeah, yep] and Iwaizumi is the tech guy whose name I can't remember, who she just went on a date with yeah, spoiler alert for abbott elementary.
em
53:21
Things are getting good. Who's jacob? Oh God, who's annoying as that?
rainbow
53:27
Tanaka. No, no, that's not Tanaka, is it? Oh, is it. Is it Kogane? It could be Kogane. It could be Kogane Goshiki. Goshiki is definitely giving Jacob. Yeah, jacob. I love that. He's like the only white character on the show. I also. One of the best things about Abbott Elementary is none of the main characters are straight white cis men.
em
53:50
Yes, it is very refreshing. And then the janitor whose name I can't fucking think of, right now, oh gosh, I can't remember either, mr, Mr Johnson. Mr Johnson, yes, mr Johnson.
rainbow
54:03
Who is Mr Johnson? Is that Noya?
em
54:08
Oh my God, johnson, mr johnson, yes, mr johnson, who is mr johnson? Is that Noya? Oh my god, is that Noya? Would totally be a like a interesting little janitor in, like his later years.
rainbow
54:13
yes, he's got some yeah, like, yeah, he's got so many stories to tell. Who would that be? Is that? Is it Kuroo, is it? It's not Bokuto Tendo? Who Tendo? It is Tendo. You're right, mr johnson is Tendo.
em
54:30
Oh, who's the, awful teacher that no one likes. My god watchy joe die show die show.
rainbow
54:35
It's obviously die show. Yeah, who's the uh? Who's the guy from the um this season? The guy from the golf course?
em
54:43
Oh, the villain I mean Jesus Is that Kuro. Why would Kuro be him?
rainbow
54:48
I don't know. He's a smooth talker, he's a capitalist.
em
54:53
That's like the principal of Shiratoro Zawa.
rainbow
54:56
Yeah, that's, Washijo, it's that guy?
em
54:58
What about the guy from the district, the main one?
rainbow
55:02
Oh, with whose voice we don't understand why he talks like that. Yeah one, oh that with with the whose voice we don't understand why he talks like that. Yeah, um, who would that be? Kuro? I think that would be Kuroo. I keep trying to give.
em
55:11
I'm like Kuroo has to be in here somewhere especially in the way that you think he's kind of up to something, but he's not yeah, it's just the way he talks.
rainbow
55:17
I don't understand why he they gave him that voice. Yeah, anyway, but yeah, um, I guess we didn't give Yachi, or I guess is anybody Yachi or Kiyoko. I could see Yachi being another janine. Yeah, oh, absolutely.
em
55:32
And then Kiyoko doesn't really have like a personality match with any of them.
rainbow
55:36
She's too demure yeah, I was gonna give her barbara, but that's the only. That's like the closest I could get, and even then she doesn't quite have the personality of barbara. Yeah, she just has that. Like I have my shit together.
em
55:46
I.
rainbow
55:47
I really think of them, like I think specifically with, like the mentorship dynamic that Barbara and Janine have. I see that with Kiyoko and Yachi. Oh yeah, I could see that. I see that with. Like I see, like sometimes when I do the who in haikyuu, I'm thinking like specific personality, but I'm also sometimes thinking like relationship you know, like who's like the barbara and melissa that feels like tanaka and Noya yeah, absolutely very cute.
em
56:10
Okay, that's kind of everyone all right. So, uh again. Uh, catch, I have elementary thursdays on hulu. Now, moving on to oh, before we get into the stinky fridge of the spoiler zone, you can catch us on twitter, instagram, blue sky and tumblr at fly hq pod. That's f-l-y-h-q-p-o-d. You can also email us at fly hq pod at gmail dot com that's f-l-y-h-q-p-o-d. At gmail dot com. Now it's time to open up that fridge. It's the spoiler zone.
rainbow
56:45
I'm gonna, I'm not gonna lie. I kind of love that you made this choice because Ushijima cow milk, spoiled milk spoiler zone. There is a through line. It's all connected.
56:56
Your brain, your brain knew before you even knew that's usually how it works for me, okay, and we only have one thing that rainbow has to share well, I actually have two things because I want to talk about Washijo saying that Kageyama wouldn't be happy on Shiratorizawa as a team, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be happy setting for Ushijima, because they do go on to set, they do go on to play together.
em
57:20
Well, for sure, but I think, like as he is now, it wouldn't have worked.
rainbow
57:23
No, absolutely. And again, again. And it's the team, specifically I think the adlers is a different team, and by the time, you know, we get to the time skip, ushi jima has changed. He's like broken himself down and built himself up anew, and I think part of that is because of this game with karasuno. He realizes I can't just keep doing things the way I've always been doing them. I have to like find new ways, and he really does it by just getting stronger, becoming Japan's canon, yes, yes. And then the other thing I have, because we talked about Shirabu. I just wanted to talk about the fact that he becomes a doctor in the time skip. Yeah, at the time. Which I think is that just because he like studied so hard to get into Shiratorizawa, he was like, damn, I might as well do something with all this studying. Yeah, he, I might as well do something with all this studying.
em
58:04
Yeah, he's like I'm smart and I'm not going to play volleyball after high school, so I'll be a doctor.
rainbow
58:11
Yeah, and we don't know like what he at least I don't know what he specializes in In the during the time of the Jack Adler's game. He's a fifth year medical student.
em
58:17
Oh, interesting. Okay, and you said that that's why you think the family name or his name means white cloth.
rainbow
58:29
Yeah, family name or his name, means white cloth. Yeah, so his family name, Shirabu, means white cloth and I wondered if that had any connection to it, because doctors are known for wearing like white coats. Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, and then did you want to bring up what you the spoiler that you accidentally did.
em
58:35
Oh yeah, so I accidentally said this in the beginning and then rainbow got me together. But when we talk about in the manga, when he talks about the four, I feel like that's almost foreshadowing the neck of my game.
rainbow
58:46
Yeah, that's all I got all right. That's it. I think we're done. Spoiler zone let's close that fridge. Get that smell out of here.
em
58:52
Light a candle you and you know what until next time, fly high.