Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
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Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
S3E9: The Volleyball Idiots
"A lot of people call him a monster, but we just say he's a volleyball idiot."
This week, rainbow and em talk about season 3, episode 9 "The Volleyball Idiots" and discuss all the little monsters in this game, the elongated deuce between our two teams, and Washijo's beef with a 15 year old.
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rainbow
00:10
hello everyone and welcome to fly a queer Haikyuu podcast.
em
00:13
I'm rainbow they she and I'm m, and today we are talking about season three, episode nine the volleyball idiots. Freaking idiot, but before ball idiots, freaking idiot.
rainbow
00:22
But before we get into that, em and I have some very exciting news.
em
00:30
This weekend was our three-year anniversary and to celebrate, I wanted to do something symbolic. You want to tell them, yeah.
rainbow
00:43
Are we calling it a, a proposal that feels like the best word for it.
em
00:46
I'm fine with that. You're the one that doesn't like the language listeners.
rainbow
00:51
I have a lot of issues with marriage and weddings and proposals and the traditions associated and the language associated with those concepts. So it is, it's a weighted word for me, um, and for me I like to think of it as like I think it is a symbolic, like reaffirmation of a commitment, but that is a mouthful. So proposal will have to do. Um, because I have known for a very long time it almost feels like since the first time I interacted with you on twitter, but probably a little bit later than that and you said, since the first time we had our um first ever phone call together, we have felt that we want to be together, we want to be partners for the rest of our lives.
01:32
And so em did a really beautiful gesture which, if you have played stardew valley, you know that, um, when you find a candidate that you would like to marry, when you find a little little man or woman that you want to spend the rest of your life with, you have to go and get a mermaid pendant. And so Em got me my very own mermaid pendant. I'm wearing it right now. It's so sweet. She gave it to me yesterday at our picnic and it was just this really beautiful moment and I just you know she is the Kage Temahina all the way.
em
02:07
Yeah, it was good your face when you realized what was happening. I will remember forever because you weren't. I thought she was totally expecting it. She even made like a little comment earlier in the week like oh, something about your proposal because obviously, like we've talked about it, you know and what, what we want and how we want it to go down and stuff. Like she didn't want the getting down on one knee and all that and I respected all those wishes and it was just like a simple little proposal and it was really sweet and so, yeah, your bitches are engaged, kind of that's another thing.
02:35
Like, again, with this whole, like it's not your typical. You know we're a country away from our family, so you know we're not getting married anytime soon and we may never even do the whole like signing the piece of paper and making it official to the state. We definitely want to do a celebration with our friends and family that you can essentially call a wedding, but again, it's not anything that we're like planning now and like a spring wedding, you know it's. It was more about just wanting to do this symbolic kind of gesture of like hey, commitment, and like I want to build a life with you forever, kind of thing.
rainbow
03:12
so yeah, yeah, I listen. I'm not going to go fully into all of my feelings on marriage right here, and you know romantic relationships being tied to the state and all of the social welfare that's included in marriage that people should just have, and they shouldn't have to sign a contract with another person in the eyes of the state in order to receive that. But whatever, there you know what you can go online to find. You know arguments for why, um, we should not be fighting for gay marriage, but instead we should be fighting for the um deinstitutionalization of marriage. Um, I will not go into that now, but I don't find marriage and weddings as they are in popular culture or in tradition. I don't find them very romantic. I think what you know. I think I do love a ceremony and a ritual though. So the idea of getting together with the person, one of the people I love the most in the world and the other people in the world that I love the most in the world and the other people in the world that I love the most my friends and my family's the idea of gathering together to celebrate this love that we have created and shared, I think that is beautiful and I would love to do that someday. And this, the, you know, this mermaid pendant, it's not a ring I don't wear rings but I like wearing necklaces and so to have this necklace and have this reminder, I mean I don't know if you could hear in my voice, but when I was first talking about it I could not stop smiling, my cheeks were hurting.
04:30
So you know, I think I think what Em and I have and honestly it already feels like I'm basically you know, quote unquote married to you. I've made the commitment and that's that's how it is. And you know, if you don't agree with that, that's fine. If that sounds cool to you, that's cool too. But you know, I just those are my feelings on it. And so Em and Em listened to that and heard that and she did everything so perfectly, it was really beautiful. I cried, I. I just feel so much warmth and so much love and so much joy. And you know, and I don't know about you, but like it doesn't feel any different to me because I've already made those commitments and those promises to you. I just have like a physical symbol of it now, which I think is still beautiful. So, you know, don't, don't keep your ears open for a wedding date, because that won't be happening. Um but you know and um you know, in typical queer tradition, I will also be doing some form of proposal eventually for him.
em
05:28
She mentioned the Sendai gymnasium and I'm holding her to it.
rainbow
05:32
Well, I feel like, now that I've told you that I shouldn't like, I shouldn't do it there, because now you'll be expecting it, I should have kept that to myself. I'll forget. You know what? You're right, we're going to Japan in a couple of years, so by then you won't even remember that I'm thinking of it. Okay, yes, so yeah. And then, speaking to the theme of queer love, I'd like to move to my second bullet point, which you know.
05:54
If you don't want me to go into She-Ra and the Princesses of Power right now, after we just talked about her proposal, I don't. I can save it for next episode. When have we ever had a smooth segue? That's so true. Anyway, um, I also this is also a rainbow recommends corner because there is a great podcast out there called hey Adora, your queer She-Ra podcast. It's hosted by two amazing queer people and they talk about similar to the show. Actually, like a big inspiration for this show was this podcast, hey Adora, and they talk about She-Ra and the princesses of power, the show that came out on netflix. Um, probably, like it started probably like 10 years ago at this point, and if you have not watched she-ra, oh my gosh, what are you doing? It is amazing queer love saves the universe. It is. It's a great show, and I just recently re-watched season five because of this podcast and oh, it's just like an excellent episode of television.
em
06:48
It's such an easy watch too and like it's a real comfort show, I find.
rainbow
06:52
Yeah, and it's similar to like Avatar and Steven Universe. It's the kind of show where, like it's a kid's show. So it started out pretty episode of the week, very clear that like the studio and the executives were like no, no, no, this is the formula for kid shows. You can't give us like an episodic narrative, blah, blah, blah. Like you can't, you know you can't do that, and then like, slowly they were able to get to that point. So, like the first few episodes are a little bit more like monster of the week and then it gets really, it gets very plot heavy, like things really kick into um high gear and it is just really good. Great queer representation oh sorry, a lot of canon queer. Yes, yeah, and specifically canon queer. And I mean, I'll be honest, I wasn't, uh, I wasn't sure how canon the queer was gonna be until we got to the end. But I promise you, whatever you're thinking, if you're thinking no, they won't go there, they won't go either.
em
07:39
Yes, they fucking will and even aside from the main ship, which is very rewarding and a great story. There's just like these side relationships that are queer. There's so many queer characters. Like there's non-binary representation. It's very I don't even know if I should say it's ahead of its time because we're there now, but in terms of like children's shows or shows geared to a younger audience, it's very ahead of its time.
rainbow
07:58
I think it's very telling that. I do think the creator and the writers had to fight for that. Yeah, um, I'm thinking there's specifically two characters that are like married and you just don't really see them as much in the beginning and like they're not focused on, because I think they were like, well, we can't show this like married, like these married women, and it's not till later that they were able to do it and I think I've heard on another podcast, which is also a good podcast, uh, the podcast of power.
08:20
That talks about, um, how, like the the ending of the show had to be, the writer did something very the head writer did something very interesting um to make it. So it's like, no, this has to be a queer story, um, and it's just. Yeah, I could, I could honestly do a whole podcast on it, except there's already two amazing podcasts out there, so go listen to those. If you watch the, if you already watched it, if you plan to watch it and you love listening to podcasts, I highly recommend both the Podcast of Power and hey Adora.
em
08:49
Moving on to a little bit of housekeeping, we got a great email from listener Emily, who has been sharing fun stories about rewatching the show with friends of theirs, and we love hearing this and hearing from you guys. So thank you again, emily, for your email. And there was something that she mentioned that I really wanted to bring up because it's very interesting. We talk a lot about how we wish we had like a Japanese culture expert on the show, because there's so many little nuances that I think can get lost references and stuff with the language, and this was really interesting. She brought up so I think her friends lived or traveled to Japan.
09:24
I'm forgetting the details. Please forgive me, but they pointed out that in the beginning of season two, when we're first introduced to Yachi, her little hair stars flip-flop from black to light blue, and that this is used in anime to show a character that is unsure or indecisive. They said that they weren't able to find much research on that in just a Google search, but what little I did find appears to support that and indeed, after Yachi stands up to her mom and fully joins the team, her hair stars stay light blue for the rest of the season, apparently showing her resolve in joining the team and doing something other than contentedly staying in the background as town person B. I love this because it's not only like a cultural like thing, but it's like a storytelling mechanism, and so that's really interesting, and we'll have to keep an eye out for that with other characters and shows yeah, I also did.
rainbow
10:10
I wanted to do a little research myself and I couldn't find anything specific about like black versus light blue. But I think what I was seeing just in like looking at different like um analysis of anime and particularly color theory, like I think it is the change in color, not the colors themselves, that shows the indecision, right, and I think I really don't even think you need to back that up with research. I think like you can read that just like and analyze that. But if anyone does have any like, if there are like specific um things out there that you know of that, really speak to this. Please, as always, feel free to send that our way.
em
10:43
And on a grander scale, just in media. I think sometimes like things like wardrobe can be overlooked. But everything, as someone who I once worked on a movie where I wasn't planning on being in wardrobe and I got thrown into it and I just didn't have like an appreciation for it, I don't really care about clothes or fashion and I just didn't think about how. But like every choice is purposeful in media, in like shows and movies and whatever. So you know clothes and color and it all is, it all means something. So this was a cool little tidbit. So thank you again, listener Emily, for letting us know, and if any of you guys have similar anecdotes, please, we love to hear about it.
rainbow
11:20
Yeah, I love clothes and I would, honestly, if somebody had told me I could be head of wardrobe for a movie, I would be ecstatic about that, um, but I think the first time I ever really paid attention to wardrobe, uh, was in Glee. Because when they would do, not when they did like their big show numbers, because obviously they were wearing the same clothes, but when they would do like a big like group song, they often had like the same color palette but their each individual outfit was like tailored to the character's, like usual wardrobe. So like Finn was always wearing like a t-shirt and like pants kind of thing.
11:56
And then you know, like Quinn would wear a dress and like Mercedes would have like a shirt that had like some sort of embellishment like she usually wore, and Kurtz was always, you know, like a little fancy boy kind of thing and and that was, for me, the first time I really started paying attention to clothes and what they mean for a character and how it is a part of the visual storytelling yeah okay, and you know, uh, we can't really do anything about that with Haikyuu, because they are pretty much always wearing either practice clothes or their uniforms.
em
12:23
I do love that Hinata. When he's in his like track uniforms. They're always like really light and almost like feminine colors a lot of the time, like he has that like pink and white or it's like a green and white or something like that. It's just something I've noticed. And then Kageyama is always like blue and black.
rainbow
12:38
That's true, that's true, they do. They do the color thing a lot. And I will say you know, there is something with wardrobe and Hinata that we can't talk about yet shall we move on to the recap and get into this episode?
12:50
yes all right, three, two, one it's the penultimate episode of season three and our two teams are deucing back and forth the whole time. The exhaustion is getting to all the players, including Ushiwaka, but these volleyball fools won't let Sora muscles stop them. Karasuno is drawing this game out with their raw and reckless attacks, but will it be enough to take down the powerhouse that is Shiratorizawa? Find out, well, not in this episode, but soon as we start to wrap up this season of Haikyuu Love. That I know I was going to say like find out this week on Haikyuu. And I was going to say like find out this week on Haikyuu and I was like, oh no, but we don't.
em
13:26
They are dragging it out.
rainbow
13:28
I love it. Honestly, you could give me two more episodes after this and I'd be happy. And again, I'll just never stop saying that this is the treatment that the neck of my game should have gotten Fucking rip. Yes, I mean to be fair. Fair, they didn't like go to a deuce the way that this game does, but still, we should have gotten more drawn out. We should have gotten more flashbacks, more, more, more. Um. I did want to note, before we hop into our episode discussion, that um, in the dub it's called fools for volleyball I'm a fool for volleyball and a fool for you, Kageyama.
em
14:01
That's the ending of all fan fiction. So we start this episode with Tsukki. Remember him back in the nurse's office getting his fingers taped and he's thinking back to the summer training camp and kuro's pointers for blocking. He's noticing that bokuto looks before hitting akashi is impressed. Listen, I could have a fucking season or a few ovas just about this summer training camp.
rainbow
14:23
You know I could too, and I don't really have any profound just about this summer training camp. You know I could too, and I don't really have any profound notes about this part, other than the fact that all these boys are so damn tall and lanky.
em
14:31
I know All these third years especially.
rainbow
14:34
Yeah, as a short king, I really I can't imagine having legs that long. You know I know Hinata.
em
14:41
So Kiyoko is noticing Suki's super concentration and she's like he's probably not even thinking about like when he left the match.
rainbow
14:48
He's thinking about what he's gonna do when he gets back in the game and I love that we get to see Kiyoko because we see like Tsukishima and like she's right, we see him like thinking about this and he's like he you know, he's so like analytical and he's thinking through this and I love getting to see Kiyoko, noticing that I would love a fic that's like like each chapter, each part is Kiyoko thinking about each member of the team, because she's gotten really a chance to get to know them as players and, like you know, I just think seeing the team through Kiyoko's eyes would be very fascinating.
em
15:19
A fic from Kiyoko's point of view? Does it exist right in now?
rainbow
15:22
Yeah, and I point of view, does it exist right and now? Yeah, and I'm not.
em
15:30
I'm not just talking about like a romantic fic where we're getting like her pov while she's falling in love. I do love that too, but I know just her watching the boys and being like they're gay.
rainbow
15:34
These bitches are gay we finish off in the nurse's room and we cut back to where we ended last episode, with Tsukki running back onto the court like a goddamn hero. We have ROG, so stoked to see him return.
em
15:48
I know I said everyone's excited, even our trio. In the stands. One of the younger guys is saying it's too late, but the two new besties, the ROG and the other guy, are like it's not gonna end here.
rainbow
16:01
I love how pumped they are. And then Tsukishima in, like a move that no one from who's only watched season one could ever imagine. He goes right into Ukai's face and he's like explaining like my fingers are fine, like the bleeding has stopped, I can go back out there. He's like. He's like please, coach, let me back in, let me back in.
em
16:18
He like very succinctly, gives the report that he's able to go back in, gives the report that he's able to go back in, and I love that we have a shot of Ukai. Takeda and Hinata are just like shell shocked. And yeah, Ukai's like I never thought I'd see the day where he'd be begging me to come back on the court. I also wanted to note in this moment that Shiratorizawa doesn't look happy to see Tsukki back. He has been annoying them with their one touches this entire time.
rainbow
16:40
Yeah, they were happy to have that break from his persistent blocking and I mean, I do kind of understand where the guy up in the stand is coming from, because they're at like one of them is at 14 at this point, right Like it's almost over, and it does seem insane to swap out with a different player. But Karasuno knows they need Tsukishima in there.
em
16:58
Tsuki's been like the hero of this match, like get him back in there. So Yachi reports the same to Saeko and the neighborhood guys and she says that she's sure the pain hasn't stopped for Tsukki and like his hand is really taped up. Just his little middle finger is free, his, his pinky is dislocated.
rainbow
17:15
So that's gonna suck yeah, and we'll see the effects of that throughout the game. And then we have Tsukishima sitting on the bench next to Hinata, because I think they still have to like, I think they have to wait um before they can sub Tsukki back in. And we have Hinata sheepishly admitting that Yamaguchi was really the one who bought Tsukishima time he.
em
17:33
I love this because he starts with saying like I bought you some time, but honestly, yamaguchi actually bought more time than me and Suki's just like thanks for the honesty, it's such a funny moment, it's a very cute Tsukki Hina moment.
rainbow
17:46
But I also I have like a little headcanon that it's a little bit of Hinata, like kind of being a wingman for Yamaguchi, like where he like knows Yamaguchi has feelings for Tsukki and he's just like he's full of his bluster, of just like, yeah, I bought you time. But then in his head he's like no, Tsukki Shima should know that Yamaguchi was the one.
em
18:02
I like that Hinata is not going to like fib or whatever. He's honest in the same way, kind of that Kageyama is he's not going to take credit where it's not due. And I also just like that like we're finally getting some Tsukihina and Tsukikage interactions that aren't just antagonistic and I feel like we're really getting to see what their dynamic is going to be throughout high school.
rainbow
18:21
Yeah, I think, you know, I think we can see how their relationship has grown and you know we can see that it has potential to continue to grow.
em
18:30
I think you know they depend on each other out there on the court, so that's going to affect things but yeah, so there's only one more point needed for Shiro Torizawa and they swap in a new pinch server. Daichi assumes that it'll probably be a jump float serve and has them move up their defenses, which was a good move and yeah, and so we do get a jump float serve and Daichi looks so cool.
rainbow
18:51
I this is not the first time I noticed it, um, or this is the first time I notice it, uh, but this episode's animation is really good. I think they do that. I think they save the really really good stuff for the last couple of episodes. I feel like that's a theme that we've seen throughout and, yeah, he just looks really cool. And then Leon notes that Karasuno's defense would be full of holes without him, and it made me think again of next year. What does their defense look like next year with Daichi Gon? Like, who fills that role?
19:21
yeah and I think in, I think next season, in some spoiler zones we can get into that, yeah, or I guess we don't even need to save it for the spoiler zone. We'll talk about it in the episodes.
em
19:33
So then Kageyama Kageyama pulls off a dump, and he does it so quickly that I actually missed it the first time as I was taking notes.
rainbow
19:39
You too, yeah, I had to, I had to go back. I was like oh, oh, wait, because then it was like Tendo yelling and then Kageyama saying we won't be able to do that move again, and I was like, wait, what move did you do.
em
19:49
I totally thought he passed it to somebody. But yeah, you go back. And he dumped it and Tendo caught it, but he was a little too late and the dump is successful. But audacity of Kageyama to do a dump in this high pressure moment.
rainbow
20:06
Well, because I think this brings them into a deuce. That point, doesn't it? Yeah, that brings them 14 to 14. I think so.
em
20:13
They're just like in this part of the game. It's just like one point, one point, like neither of them are letting the other get a lead.
rainbow
20:21
Yes, which is at this point, now that they've made it to this deuce and like even the point before this one, that's what you need to win. You have to get that two point lead, and so like you want to get two in a row, but neither team is letting that happen, right. And then we have ROG up in the stands. Love him. He says like good, good though it took years off my life, you little shits, the little shits is crazy.
em
20:46
That is not the tone of Haikyuu, but I thought that was funny.
rainbow
20:50
I, okay, that's not the Haikyuu, that's not the tone of the sub, but the dub does have that. The dub seems to be crasser, and I think that makes sense. I think that culturally, that makes a lot of sense. I guess they are still in Japan, though. They are in Japan, but it's for an English speaking audience, it's for, like, a Western audience. So I think what they're doing because I think, whenever you're translating, it's not just about, like I think this is an issue I have sometimes with subtitles in anime that sometimes the subtitles are trying to be like an exact translation and it's like no, you need like the vibe, and sometimes you have to translate that vibe differently when you're bringing it to a new audience, and so, like, I just think he's like a grumpy uncle.
21:30
He's like your grumpy uncle who comes to your game and like maybe you're drinking a little bit more than you'd like him to, um and but, and he's like yelling, but at the end of the day, like what he wants is for you to win and for you to succeed. Yeah, so, yeah, we are in a deuce. And now it is finally time for Tsukishima to come back on the court and Narita swaps out and immediately is so relieved to finally be off the court and you know what? I fucking feel that Like there's so much pressure that he has been under and I do like that we get this moment of like really understanding Narita's like feelings about it again as, like our most like nothing NPC. I do like that he gets a little bit of something here, and then Ukai is a really good coach and like always knows what to say and like just says something like really nice to Narita yeah, he's like the fact that you were able to play like you normally do is really impressive in these circumstances, which it totally is, uh.
em
22:26
And then we have Ushijima's quiet apology to sukashima. As he comes on the court he kind of just raises his hand in acknowledgement and apology, and apparently I saw in tiktok comment section.
rainbow
22:37
So take it with a grain of salt, but I think that's a pretty common gesture in sports, like obviously you don't really have time to be like hey, sorry, I broke your finger, but just like a little like hey, sorry yeah, and you know for all of like the shit that I talk about Ushijima and like you know how much I don't like like certain aspects of his personality, like there's, he did not mean to hurt Suki, he was not trying to injure him in any way. It's just that happens sometimes when you play a sport, and especially a sport where you're in so much contact with this ball.
em
23:05
So Tanaka tries to razz Tsukki up by saying like hey, what do you think you're doing, walking down here like some kind of hero? And Suki's like, um, so about that three person block? He's all business, he has no time for this.
rainbow
23:19
Yeah, and Tanaka is so funny in the dub. He's like Suki's so cold. Yeah, yeah, that was a funny translation which, once again, I just keep saying. But tanaka and saka from avatar, the last interbender would be the best of friends yeah, they are very, you know, in another universe versions of each other yeah, and then, and then. I think we get into a Tsukki kage moment, right?
em
23:40
yes, I love like not antagonistic at all. They are brothers in arms, they are teammates. Kosuki says to Kageyama I doubt you would, but don't hold back. And Kageyama is like, if you don't think, I would don't bother saying so and I won't. And then they both, like on their own, do a little evil smile.
rainbow
24:00
You know, and I think the reason we're getting this with tsukihina and tsukikage is because tsukishima has shown that he is as invested in this game as the rest of the team, and I think that's where a lot of the antagonism comes from is, and it's from both sides. It's tsukishima being annoyed that kagehina are so invested and it's kagehina being so annoyed that tsukishima, like refuses to have any kind of passion for the game. And so I think they've, like, I think Tsukishima understands more now where kage hina are coming from, and kage hina appreciate that Tsukishima has stepped up to the plate in this way. Bestie alert, yes. And then, um, we're going to Ushijima and Shirabu, and there's a little flashback because I think Ushijima says to Shirabu, like do you remember the promise you made to me to use him?
em
24:51
mercilessly.
rainbow
24:53
Oh which pause pause yes, it's, yeah, it's literally just like you're gonna keep sending me sets, no matter what um and Shirabu's like. Yes, sir, the language is just so dramatic. You know well, first of all they're teenagers, so I think that makes sense. And you know, it's a TV show, so you gotta, you gotta, up the drama factor, true? So then we have Asahi up to serve, and I thought this was interesting, and maybe it's different in the set, but in the dub he thinks to himself that he feels more confident knowing that all eyes are on him. For once.
em
25:28
That is literally the opposite of what he's saying. He's saying it's kind of a relief that no one is looking back at him because like the team trusts that he'll get it over, like no one's like looking back nervously or anything.
rainbow
25:41
Okay, I could have misheard it. It's very possible that that's not a misinterpretation. That's my misinterpretation, not the dub misinterpreting him, because I thought it was weird. I was like, I was like I found that really interesting. I would think it would have the opposite effect, but I think what you're making, what you're saying even if the dub fucked it up I think what you're saying happened in the sub makes way more sense where, like, everyone's back is to him and no one's looking at him, whereas, like, when he's spiking and he's up front, everyone's looking to him to hit the ball, when he's doing a jump float or not a jump float, when he's doing a jump serve, you know the team's eyes are not on him. Their eyes are forward, waiting for, you know, the ball to be returned.
em
26:17
Yeah, I'm trying to remember exactly. I think it's just like it sounds weird, but it's reassuring that no one is like looking at me, like turning back to look at me.
rainbow
26:25
And I think that makes more sense for his character. I think the idea of him feeling confident when all eyes are on him is silly. So, yeah, maybe I should go back and like re-listen, because I just don't. That doesn't make any sense, especially now that I know what the sub says.
em
26:37
I could see the dub misinterpreting that and being like this is what he meant.
rainbow
26:41
Yeah, or just like that, maybe somehow with like the timing. I don't know all of the intricacies of dubbing and how that works. If that's like, well, this fits better with the timing or something, yeah, so.
em
26:51
Shirabu passes to Ushijima and Tsukki Kage block, or while Tsukki gets a one touch and it hits his bad hand and Tsukki thinks to himself this is ridiculous, this is stupid. I'm not Hinata to think that I actually want to fight till the end.
rainbow
27:06
He does. He wants to fight till the very end. And then we go up into the stands. Yes, because we have Iwo Ooi doing a lot of commentating this episode, which I really appreciate, and Oikawa notes the change in Tsukki from their very first practice match to now and I think it's a little awkward in the dub he says like I wonder where they put him. And it's kind little awkward in the dub. He says like I wonder where they put him and it's kind of like where, where has he been hiding away? I think is the idea like where has cross no been?
em
27:36
hiding this kid because he's so different from how he used to be, uh, and much like Kageyama Tsukki.
rainbow
27:38
Being back on the court in full focus mode is impressing everyone and we have our total defense back yes because we see Tsukishima, you know he's going for that block and he's like, give you know, cut off the cross, make his only option to send it right to Noya. Yes.
em
27:55
Yeah, Ushiwaka goes to hit for the third time in a row and it hits the top of the net and everyone's legs are starting to give out on him. I think Daichi is like watching this happen and trying to will his body to move. But Nishinoya is able to save it, and Tanaka, as he runs up, he's like beating his leg with his fist because it's starting to. They're running on fumes. This is like the very, very end of the match here.
rainbow
28:23
Yeah, absolutely Like. You can really see that they're getting tired, even Ushiwaka, who clearly has a lot of stamina, and I just want to note that again. Tanaka, Asahi and Daichi, just of stamina. And I just want to note that again, tanaka, Asahi and Daichi, just like Ushijima, have been on the court the whole time, other than you know the timeouts, like they haven't gotten breaks. They're not going in and out like Hinata and Tsukishima.
28:36
They weren't taken out the way that Kageyama was like at like every moment where the ball has been in play, tanaka, Asahi, Daichi and Ushijima have been there, and Ushijima Ukai notes it later, but Ushijima have been there and Ushijima Ukai notes it later but Ushijima has been doing a lot of the hitting for Shiratorizawa which, like you know, that's how things work out for them. But then you have on Karasuno, you have Taichi, tanaka and Asahi, all kind of sharing that burden, which I think does speak to Ushijima's stamina very much Like. I don't think any of the three from Karasuno. I think they would struggle way more if it was just one of them, like it is for Ushijima right.
em
29:11
And speaking of Tsukki having more energy, he goes for a slide hit uh. Tendo figures it out, but figures out that it's a decoy move. But Tsukki was able to buy a few seconds and tanaka gets the break point which you know.
rainbow
29:24
It's funny that he made that comment earlier about like I'm not Hinata, like why am I? Like trying to fight till the very end, but then he does a very Hinata move, like that, like a slide to be a decoy, and then specifically with tanaka hitting it, I think, because I feel like we often see you know Hinata as a decoy and then tanaka getting it, and so I do love that tsukishima is in this role. Yeah, um. So then we have Wahijo calling a timeout, and I think it's because he realizes Ushijima needs a break. Um, I think that's.
29:52
It's not, it's not necessarily about changing the momentum, it's not because karasuno did anything particularly spectacular, but it's just because he's like yo, my ace, my very powerful, big, strong ace, he needs to take like a minute because he just hit three spikes in a row, he's really flagging, and so they do a timeout. And then this gives us the opportunity to go back to Iwo Ooi and, like I do love that, there's, like you know, Oikawa, despite all of his little like bitterness, like I do like that they're both so into volleyball that they can like calmly talk through it like this, um, because even though Oikawa clearly doesn't want either team to win, right they?
em
30:27
discuss Karasuno's versatility, highlighting the fact that Tsukki pulled off that slide hit, which is not normal for him to do, and Oikawa really breaks down. Seijo and Shiratorizawa they have specific styles and that's what makes them powerhouses, but Karasuno doesn't have a style to protect. They'll just do whatever. And then, of course, Oikawa has to then be like I want them both to lose. And Iwa tells him to choose between being a crappy guy or a shitty guy is his nickname.
rainbow
30:56
Yeah, I love this moment so much. First of all, going you know, before we get into the fun of it all, I do like what Oikawa is saying here about these powerhouse schools and how they, like, they tend to rely on these same skills over and over again. But karasuno, because they're dragging themselves back up from the bottom. They really have to figure out you know what their, like, specific moves are going to be, and so they're just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks and that they're willing to change.
em
31:24
He says like they even threw out that godlike quick and made it better.
rainbow
31:28
Yes which it's like there is there, like you do have to wonder like if maybe that is like a weakness in being a powerhouse and in being like a team that does you know these same things over and over again? Is that and I think this speaks to really a lot of what's happening subtextually in this season, which is this idea that, like, tradition can only take you so far and there needs to be evolution and there needs to be growth. And Karasuno is in this time where they're just constantly you know they're like almost like really small children or like babies even how they're just like growing so much, so quickly. You know they're growing out of their shoes every year, kind of thing, whereas, like once you've established yourself and you've kind of slowed down, you know you're not necessarily growing as much and you know that can be good for a while.
32:13
But then when a raw, reckless team comes in trying things new, it really shakes things up. And then, yeah, in the dub it's a great moment where he was like you're a piece of crap, and then Oikawa was like excuse you can, piece of crap. And then Oikawa was like excuse you, can you please stop calling me that? And he was like fine, how's a piece of shit. And then he's like fine piece of crap then.
em
32:35
So we have. Ukai looks through his notes and sees that Ushiwaka scored about half the points so far, even even with being marked in all this, and he says I knew it, but still, Ushijima is a like one hell of a player, or something like that oh, yes, very, you know, speaking to the, the dub again, and the way they've uh changed their language.
rainbow
32:55
Um Ukai says wakatoshi Ushijima is a beast. Yeah, that is one way to put it. Yes, and we have shamada up in the stands explaining. He was on a little bit of a rant here, but he explains that um, karasuno's strength, or the, the key to karasuno's strategy, is confusion. Interesting, which I thought was it, which I think makes sense that you know talking about, like the decoys and the like, because I think he says something like. I know it seems like maybe they're just like wasting their energy by them, like constantly going for the ball at the same time, but what that's doing is creating confusion that keeps the other team on their back foot yeah, the way that they sell it is what's making them be able to break through exactly um.
em
33:37
So then, as we're doing this time out, Shirabu goes up to Ushijima and says when you said to use you, you meant as long as you're useful, right. And Semi, as always, is taking offense on Ushijima's behalf. But Ushijima just has like a soft smile and agrees Like yeah, I mean. And that's him saying like you know, as long as you can actually make these hits, right, and well, our volleyball idiot's gonna go till the end, I think.
rainbow
33:59
Yeah, and I think it's interesting that, like you know, because Shibabu says this, and I think Shibabu's character is so interesting, I think there's just something so like confrontational about him, but I don't think like he even looks surprised by Ushijima's response to it, like everyone, because like everyone's shocked that Shirabu says this.
34:18
And then you know, I don't know what Shirabu was expecting Wakatoshi to say, but you know, what he says is just like yeah, man, you're right, but I think the like, the subtext there is just like, but I'm going to continue to be useful, like I will not be useless. Then we're still in the timeout and we go back to Karasuno and Daichi restates the thesis of Haikyuu that volleyball is a team sport. It's not about individual strength against individual strength, it's about all six players working together. And we see I just wanted to note this that we see off to the side, there is a camera recording Daichi um, and so I wonder if this part will be on the news later, because we see, you know, we don't get to, I don't think we get to see the news of this game, but we've seen that in past episodes and past seasons where, like, the team like gathers up and watches it, and I just think that's like I don't know. I've just never noticed the cameras that way before right well, that's a tv moment right there, it sure is.
em
35:10
And so the coaches both think the next time, like they've used up our timeouts, you know, the next time that you leave the court, leave as winners.
rainbow
35:19
Yes, yeah, we have both coaches being like it's. It's and I mean honestly, because they're still. They're in a deuce, like it really is. Like all one of these teams needs to do is get two points in a row and honey, they're gonna struggle they’'re in a deuce, like it really is.
em
35:28
Like all one of these teams needs to do is get two points in a row and honey, they're gonna struggle so that brings us to our commercial break and then when we come back, uh, we have an out for an out. As I want to say, Asahi does a powerful serve, but it's out. And then Ushijima does a powerful serve and it's out. And then if we get more mansplaining from shim, when Saeko says it's pointless if they don't score, and he does a very anime push-up of the glasses, as he's like actually, and he just goes on, kind of the speech about a team that can make these risky moves even in these high pressure moments is like a strong team or like it becomes pressure for the other side yeah, yeah.
rainbow
36:09
So there's a few things going on here, you know also, he does his killer serve, it's out and he thinks to himself that his jump was off, which I think is again that exhaustion kicking in. Then we have Ushijima missing uh, you know, his service out. And then we have um abusive dad, Wahijo um, saying that when they get back, Ushijima will be doing a hundred serves, which it's just like you literally had to take a time out because he's exhausted. And now you're saying, because he got one out, he's gonna. It's just. I hate this. Like spartan training philosophy. I understand that kagehina are like obsessed with that or whatever, but like I don't know, go fuck yourself, um. And then I have the one of the notes I from Shimada. The line that he says is there's a lot of value in acting like you have nothing to lose.
em
36:51
Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it's like you don't run away.
rainbow
36:57
Yeah, and then we have Ushihina having a staring contest. As they love to do Yep as they do, and then, and so now I think it's Tsukishima up to serve and he does his. You know he does like a regular overhand, but we see him flinch.
em
37:14
Oh yeah, I'm sure it's hurting his little hand.
rainbow
37:16
I know and it just it really sucks that it was his dominant hand that got injured. Yeah, Would have been nice if it was the other one.
em
37:28
But it wouldn't be nearly as dramatic if he wasn't flinching every time he used it Right. And so the ball is set to Ushijima and they go for a block, Hinata and someone else, and they're a little early again because they're tired, and also Ushijima's form is so perfect midair that he almost seems to float for a second, buying him like just that half second more of time and he's able to hit it over their blockers.
rainbow
37:48
Yeah Well, Hinata almost got baited by the decoy, but then he of time and he's able to hit it over their blockers.
37:50
Yeah well, Hinata almost got baited by the decoy, but then he doesn't and he does one of his run-up blocks. But, like you said, uh, like the timing was off, and in the dub, Hinata's thinking about Ushijima's perfect form and I said pause, yeah, and then, and we go to Ukai, you going along with this theme of perfect form is he thinks about having good form while in the air gives the spiker a lot of options. And yeah, and we have Ushijima. He comes back down from the spike and he is visibly exhausted. He is breathing so heavy and Rayon in his head calls him a monster, and for good reason, because Ushiwaka is still so pumped. He like does like a little scream and like or a little yell, I should say, and like his fist, which I think that's just like. I don't know if that's like celebration of the point he just got or if that's, or if that's him being like he can feel that he's tired, but he's like he's trying to like, give himself that like extra push of energy.
em
38:50
I so in the sub, leon says more to the effect of monster is one word for it, but we prefer our name, which is super volleyball idiot, or you know, super volleyball baka and Ushijima does that like, and I feel what I got from that was just like this just simple volleyball savant. They don't use that word, but that's basically what they're saying, and I think it's just like this just simple volleyball savant. They don't use that word, but that's basically what they're saying. And I think it's just like volleyball robot, volleyball idiot, and I think he is celebrating that he got it through and he's just like it's very like me, get volleyball over me, win, kind of vibe is what I got from it no, yeah, I totally see that.
rainbow
39:22
Yeah, I guess I didn't like quite write down what Rayon was saying there, because, yeah, he's like, he's like a lot of people call him a monster, but we just say he's a volleyball idiot, which like, yeah, I totally agree, okay. So then we have, um, Reon is up to serve, and we get like a cute little like call and response here because Shiratorizawa says serves up, and then Karasuno is like on the other side. They're like now bring it. And I thought that was cute. Um, so then, you know, so rayon serves the ball, you know the ball goes over and we have tanaka acting as a decoy, drawing attention so that kagehina can do one of their freak quicks yes, and they get that through.
em
39:58
And we have the other shiratora zawa coach saying it's rare to be small and still be such a main force on the court. Just as he starts to say it's almost like the little giant Wahijo cuts him and says bigger will always be stronger. And in the manga he's like that is nature's way and it's like okay, I know that you think men are naturally better than women and that other races are naturally better than others, because what does that bigoted ass take? Yeah?
rainbow
40:20
in the dub he specifically says the biggest are always the strongest. It's an undeniable law of nature which just really gets my blood boiling. Because how dare like I'm sorry, you're so familiar with the laws of nature I also feel like that's not correct. It's not. No, here's the thing is. I think a lot. I always think specifically about how, like human beings hunted mammoths to extinction and like mammoths are clearly bigger and stronger than human beings, but when all of them group up together, they can take them down.
em
40:49
Literally what Karasuno is doing mobbing Ushijima. I feel like he's bitter that because he just accepted that his short stature was a limit, he hates anyone that doesn't accept those same limitations and tries to push forward anyway. It's like just a bitterness.
rainbow
41:05
Well, and I think it goes back to what Daichi was saying before the commercial break of like it's not about individual strength. About individual strength. It's like, yeah sure, washi, washi, joe. Like Hinata versus Ushijima mano a mano, that would look different, obviously, but volleyball is not about this one guy who's really strong, or like having just each individual player be strong. It is about everyone working together. It's like I feel like so often in this show we have characters who forget that volleyball is a team sport and it is about six people on a court at one time.
em
41:36
Yes, so then we have Kageyama's beautiful serve.
rainbow
41:40
And I mean talk again about the animation in this episode. It's so cool, it's so dynamic, it just looks really good.
em
41:49
So this gives them a chance ball because it comes right back to them. And when, as Hinata goes for it, Wahijo, you see his younger self next to Hinata and he sees himself in Hinata. And just as Tendo goes to block this quick, he said, he thinks to himself. I, with my 40 years, want to deny you karasuno's number 10. Beefing with a teenager is crazy you are, you're just.
rainbow
42:12
You just said that you have 40 years of experience coaching volleyball and you're like, so mad at this 15 year old for having the audacity to you know, I you know. And, to be fair to Wahijo, he was. He what he was denied? Um, he was denied because he was small and do I think it's okay for him to take that anger and resentment and put it on a 15 year old? No, uh, you need to, you need to reflect and you need to grow and you need to learn to treat other people with more respect than you were shown. But I do understand it can be hard to do that but you're an adult.
em
42:47
A lot of people take that approach. It's like my life was hard, so should yours. And now? So, like I said, Tendo shuts down this quick, which is pretty devastating in this moment of the game, and Hinata is panting and looking at the court and Iwazumi, back in the stands, says he's being quieter than usual, and Oikawa says he's thinking he can't waste time, being sad he's thinking about the next step and Oikawa says how disgusting, and it shows him and Washijo, as he says it meaning Washijo is probably thinking the same damn thing Like I just can't break his spirit. If only I could break this little boy's spirit.
rainbow
43:19
Yeah, well, like Oikawa and Washijo both have like these disgusted looks on their face and right before we go up to Iwaoi, we get Tsukishima looking pissed that Tendo blocked Hinata, which I think is interesting, which I think just speaks to the the rivalry that we've seen between these two blockers. So, yeah, I thought that was interesting, yeah, and I love, I love Uekawa like, and he's a fellow monster, so like I think it's so funny how he's like so disgusted by Hinata and he's so like he's sickened by Kagehina but like he understands them and I think that's what is truly disgusting for him. He's like I hate that, I get you.
em
43:53
Yes, it's like not really disgusting. It's more like oh I'm so disgusted like, but like slash positive it's, yeah, it's really it's.
rainbow
44:01
it's an interesting, tricky thing and I, you know, we, when we get to the time skip, we'll be able to talk so much about what's going on with Oikawa and Hinata.
em
44:09
Yes, so, then, tanaka is able to get a point, but nearly falls over because his legs are so tired. He stumbles across the side of the court.
rainbow
44:17
Yeah, this is like just a series of people being exhausted and having a hard time because then we get Hinata going to block but he can't jump.
em
44:25
Yes, his legs fail him. Giving Shiratora the next point Again, like no one is getting any lead here, and Hinata's beating up his leg and Tanaka in the background urges him to forgive it.
rainbow
44:35
Hinata, yes, yes. And then we have Shirabu going to serve and it hits the net and it's going to the front and Daichi's right there. It's right in front of him, but he's thinking to himself his legs won't move, but Nishinoya's will, and he dives in and saves it.
em
44:51
and then Goshiki hits it back and Nishinoya, like, spins around and saves it again, like one right after the other. And we have Suga being like Nishinoya. That would be me. I would be freaking out. It is really cool Also.
rainbow
45:06
I for some reason I thought it was Ushijima who does that direct hit. I didn't think it was Goshiki. No, I believe it's Goshiki. Oh, okay, wow, I do, I should I pay more attention to these episodes. I feel like I've missed a lot. Yeah, no, I mean it is just really fucking cool because, yeah, Goshiki goes to do a direct hit and he's he's like here's my chance. But Nishinoya is still there and honey, those reflexes are fast, yes, and then Noya gets another like cool line. He's always, he always gets to be the hero where he's like saying to them he's just like you know, like I'll do what I can Like there's some things I can't do. Even if your thighs are splitting, just handle the midair battles for me.
em
45:49
And this pumps our our spikers of Hinata, Asahi, Daichi and Tanaka. I feel like having a defense that has your back like that makes you want to do your part equally, you know.
rainbow
45:54
I think that I think that's something about Noya's character that we see over and over again, and I think this is a similar thing that Hinata has, where you know, like, I think if Hinata were more skilled, like Noya is, he would have the exact same effect. But it's this idea that, like you have this person who is so dedicated and who's willing to bring it, bring their all, that you're like you, you feel like you have to meet that and you have to, like, give that to him in return, right, yeah, so, um, we have just. I have a note here about Ukai thinking about the rotation and how this is what they've been waiting for. It's their total offense, but it also weakens their defenses because Noya is off the court and Daichi is up front and so Hinata serves and, uh, the ball is in play and Kageyama throws him to switch positions.
em
46:37
Hmm, interesting. Shirabu hits to the center and then we have Tsukki having another flashback to a convo that he has with lev, just about like you know. Lev is like oh, it feels good to really stuff them with blocks. But Tsukki is like I get that, but like read blocking is, they're just talking about the different kinds of blocking. And then Kuro is like you kids these days, and Lev is like you're two years older than us, um, and he's like you know, just being like read blocking is better. Basically, I don't have the details written down, but, um, this brings us back to present day and Tsukki one touches again, proving that reed blocking and these one touches are a good move and that gives them a chance ball and Hinata goes for the quick attack and the episode ends.
rainbow
47:19
Yes, it's a Hinata minus tempo back attack, but what's gonna happen? What is that like? What is this doing for us? We'll find out next time, yeah one more episode left so excited. All right, what do you have for manga versus anime, manga versus anime.
em
47:36
This episode covers chapters 184 to 187. I honestly don't have a ton. I did pull one little illustration from the end of episode 184 which has Tsukki concentrating in the nurse's office and it was interesting. It's him thinking first about Akashi and Bokuto and Akashi is talking about line shots and Bokuto is just like poink, like making a noise, but then it turns into Yamaguchi is Bokudo and Ukai is Akashi, and then Tsukki is waving those thoughts away, going shoo shoo, which I thought was interesting. That is pretty fascinating.
48:16
I wasn't sure what to take away there. You can't stop thinking about Yamaguchi.
rainbow
48:20
I don't know, and maybe he has a little crush on Coach Ukai too. I don't know, it's titled Intrusive Thoughts.
em
48:25
It was just interesting and then so I thought I was right about this because I've noticed I'm like, wait a minute, we're not getting any iwa oi commentary in the manga. I don't think, and I was right, because the moment where Tsukki comes back on the court in the manga, that's when, weirdly enough, Iwaizumi finds Oikawa. I don't know where he was for the rest of this game, but that's when he joins him and I think their commentary in the anime was just given to other people in the stands. But then they have the same conversations that they do in the manga. But that's the first time they get together and I just wonder if Iwaizumi was scanning, looking around for Oikawa yeah, I think it's pretty interesting, like did he just get there?
rainbow
49:04
and like that's when he finds Oikawa, think that's interesting. I think also the anime is very smart and they're like listen, we know who people want to see. Yeah, it's Iwoi.
em
49:12
No, I'm glad that the anime brought them in way earlier. Yes, but that's all I got from manga versus anime, so now it's time for our character spotlight.
rainbow
49:20
And today we're talking about, for our very last character spotlight of season three, Wahijo Tanji. All right, as usual. I have a note about his personality from the wiki, A quote as the head coach of a champion team, he's incredibly stern and doesn't hesitate to loudly chastise his players. He gets angry very easily and is shown to be very stubborn. He is well known for preferring athletes with height and natural power and has been said to go out of his way to look for those people to recruit. He himself said that he wouldn't turn down anyone who was willing to work hard. He just doesn't acknowledge their skill based on their physiological parameters. And then, moving on to his name meaning, we have his family name, Wahijo, which means eagle or artisan, and it is also made in parallel to the word takajo, which means falconer oh interesting, yes, and then we have his given name, which is tanji, and it means blacksmith.
50:18
He's forging strong players. That's exactly what I thought I was like. I think that's the only the only thing, um, and then we have his character sheet, which doesn't give us like full stats or anything, you know. It just says that he's head coach of the Shir Torzawa Academy Volleyball Club. His age is 71. He's an old man and his current worry is it seems like fewer and fewer kids are independent thinkers these days.
em
50:44
I read that and I was like you know what You're not even like totally wrong, but also like do you mean that in like the Joe Rogan way?
rainbow
50:51
I that's kind of yeah, I thought that was a really interesting thing for him. I also think his uh sketch here is fascinating because you know every character sheet comes with a little sketch of them and he is like looking up and like he looks really sad. It's like giving like him looking at like Ushijima like spiking and like he looks really sad. It's like giving like him looking at like Ushijima like spiking and like using his height and his power and just this, almost like wistful, like that could never have been me look right.
em
51:15
No, I totally see that. I also think it's kind of ironic that this is his worry when, like I don't know, you don't seem to be a very independent thinker, you seem to be a very stringent conservative thinker and get mad when other people are independent.
rainbow
51:27
I thought that was yes, I thought that was so interesting. I was like, wow, this character, worry. And I was like, is this, like Furudate, like is this a self-insert? Do you, Furudate, think that, like, kids these days aren't independent thinkers, or is that like telling us more about Washijo's character than we've been given so far? Right, and then also, I think you've talked about this note before, because on this page there's like a little thing from Fruitate and like his little, like his little drawing that he uses to represent himself where he's talking about like his accent, and I think we've talked about that before, so we don't need to go into that.
em
51:57
Yeah, yeah, I've brought that note up before in manga versus anime. All right, it's time for the world's favorite game. It's who and Haikyuu. Now we are bringing back an oldie, but using our new characters. So this one was brought to us by Zale, which character tropes in a rom-com, slash, scary movie, etc. Example bad boy, heartthrob, the dumb blonde, the last survivor, the first killed, etc. And today we're going to cover Ushijima Tendo Shirabu, Reon Goshiki, Semi Washijo Saeko, and Yachi Ushijima is michael myers thank you.
rainbow
52:28
I was just gonna say he's giving, like, specifically, michael myers, maybe a little bit of of jason, but like specifically, just like he is calmly walking and using his like insane strength to like I don't know pick up like tombstones and shit yeah, and he is just very, it's just big and like strength is his main thing and yeah, definitely.
em
52:48
On the other side, Tendo is a combination of it and the Joker.
rainbow
52:52
He well, yeah, he's giving Pennywise. I was also going to say Freddy Krueger for sticking with like teen slashers, Like he is the Freddy to Ushijima's Jason, for sure. I also can see Tendo being kind of like the wacky funny guy who's like one of the first to go. I'm thinking of like the scary episode of Teen Titans where Beast Boy's, like it's always the funny guy first Love that. Yeah, Shirabu is like the like mean girl character who gets killed off pretty early.
em
53:20
Okay, I was going to give him like kind of this, like cold and calculated, like neat serial killer type of thing.
rainbow
53:27
Oh, I could see that and I will say I feel like, uh, Shiratorizawa doesn't work, works well more in like a horror movie than a rom-com, because I don't know who Tendo would be like the like the silly, wacky, like roommate in a rom-com. And then I think Shirabu would maybe be like he's giving like the sidekick to, like the mean girl who's like making cutting comments at our, like our, our main protagonist, uh, I feel like leon, would be a hero type. I think, yeah, I think in a horror movie he's one of the characters who like sacrifices himself so that the others can keep going yeah, well, if we're talking about america media, he'd be the first to die because he's black yeah, that unfortunate trope um, which I do think that episode of teen titans I was talking about.
54:08
I think they avoided that um by having beast boy be the one who gets killed first. I like that they didn't try to like lampshade the, the stereotype there I can certainly see him being a romantic lead in a rom-com I think I could see him being like the romantic lead, like he's to me.
em
54:23
He's giving like prince charming, where it's just like maybe not all of the personality for sure, and I almost thought that, felt that with Ushijima too, like, maybe, maybe the one that the girl is like assigned to marry and isn't super excited about yeah, I think Ushijima for sure in a rom-com is giving like the guy that, like the girl thinks she's supposed to go to, yeah kind of thing.
rainbow
54:44
Okay, and then Goshiki Goshiki, Goshiki's last girl.
em
54:49
I want, you want him to be final girl, yeah I could see that.
rainbow
54:52
I also see Goshiki being the one like he doesn't die immediately, but I see him like thinking that he can like handle taking on the bad guy and then getting taken out pretty quickly.
em
55:01
Yeah, um, and then Semi, Semi would be, I think, more of like a bad boy in a rom-com yeah, he's giving bad boy heartthrob for sure.
rainbow
55:11
Um, and in a horror movie I think he's being. I think he's like making like snarky comments while everyone's trying to survive yeah, oh, absolutely, and ghosts aren't real. Yeah, he's the one who's. Yeah, he's like saying like this isn't a big deal, but then it's just like no honey, it's a big deal. Wahijo is like a evil scientist. Yeah, he's like saying like this isn't a big deal, but then it's just like no honey, it's a big deal.
em
55:30
Washijo is like an evil scientist, yeah, and then like a rom-com. He would be like a judgmental parent. That's like they're not good enough for my son.
rainbow
55:37
Yeah, absolutely. Or he's like the like mean boss kind of character or something like that. And then I threw in Psycheko and Yachi because we didn't get to talk about them last time.
em
55:47
Saeko would be absolutely abused in a scary movie.
rainbow
55:52
She's running around with her tits out for no reason yeah, no, absolutely like she's, like she's giving, like tough girl. I think she's like she's not final girl, exactly, she doesn't quite fit that trope. I think that's Yachi, but we'll get to that in a second. But I think Saekoo is like yeah, I think she's one, I think she's like sneaking off to like make out with I don't know like Takanoe and Shimada or something like one of the guys, and then like getting killed in the process. Like she's giving, like I think she would get the treatment that Paris Hilton got in the like 2005 House of Wax movie. Oh God, yeah, yeah, we would. We would be like cheering on for, like the big-titted blonde to get killed, which you know I hate that. There's plenty of writings on those yeah, and then Yachi is like she is fully giving final girl.
56:31
Oh yeah, oh yeah, the pure virginal one, yeah, who, like yeah, no-transcript, uses her smarts and her talents to you know, win in the end.
em
56:59
In a romcom, Saeko and Yachi would be sisters and, like Saeko, would give Yachi a makeover and be like you can wear a low cut shirt, you know, and she'd be like oh.
rainbow
57:06
Yes, absolutely no, I totally, I totally see that. Yeah, Yachi is like she's. It's so interesting she's giving Final Girl but she's also giving like cute quirky. I trip all the time. Rom-com protagonist.
em
57:17
Yeah, definitely. Okay, that's it for who and Haikyuu. We may revisit this again. Like we said with the last time. With the fourth season we'll get a lot more new characters and this is a fun one to do. All right, so I guess no spoiler zone this time around. So I'm just going to give you your socials and ghost. You can catch us on Twitter, instagram, tumblr and Blue Sky at FlyHQPod. That's F-L-Y-H-Q-P-O-D. You can also email us at flyhqpod at gmail dot com F-L-Y-H-Q-P-O-D at gmail dot com.
rainbow
57:51
All right. Well, you know what We'll talk about that stinky fridge.
em
57:54
next time We'll have a lot to say. I'm sure Hinata stay in midair until next week, buddy.
58:11
And until next time, fly high
rainbow
Moo.