S4E1: Introductions

"He who wishes to climb the ladder must begin at the bottom.” 

This week, rainbow and em have made it to season 4 episode 1, "Introductions", discussing the ways Hinata's growth has stagnated, Washijo's motivations, and the opportunity Kageyama's been given due to his hard work. 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Chit Chat and Housekeeping
• 6:37 Recap and Episode Discussion
• 1:07:16 Manga vs. Anime and Character Spotlight
• 1:13:07 Who in Haikyuu? and Socials
• 1:19:23 Spoiler Zone

Transcript

rainbow

00:11

hello everyone and welcome to Fly a Queer Haikyuu podcast.

em

00:15

I'm rainbow, they she and I'm m and oh my god y'all. Today we are talking about season four, episode one, introductions. We made it. What are we introducing? A new animation style, a new art style?

rainbow

00:31

Yes, you know a few new characters. That's true, Kind of Well, we'll talk about it. I know exactly what the introduction is about. We get it at the very end of the episode.

00:42

Oh, that makes sense, okay, okay, anyway, let's go, anyway. All right, but before we get into that, I did want to talk a little bit about something. This episode is coming out a little late to be talking about this, but with our bonus episode coming out and me forgetting to talk about it in season three, episode 10, I wanted to talk about May Day, which is also known as International Workers Day. It's celebrated on May 1st and it's a celebration of laborers and the working classes that is promoted by the international labor movement. And if you live in the United States, you're thinking what the heck is that we celebrate Labor Day in September? Why is May 1st around the world, international Workers Day? And honeys? It's because of capitalism, and I'm gonna go ahead as I'm gonna go as far as to say fascism, because in 1947 and this is all according to wikipedia the first of may was established as loyalty day in the? U by the us veterans of foreign wars as a way to counter communist influence and recruitment at international workers day.

01:44

So, and now, if you're thinking that can't be that bad, let me tell you it is the fight against communism in the United States is like so. To me it's just like so. What's the word I'm looking for, so disingenuous. It's like this idea that like we have to fight the communists because the communists are bad there was the Red Scare with McCarthyism and all of this shit and like at the end of the day, like big C communism is its own thing, but like little c communism and socialism is like something people were fighting for at a time in this country and there are still people who are fighting for it, but like the socialist movement got like so crushed by the American government because of capitalism and you know just. I just encourage everyone to look into the history of labor organizing in the United States. I urge you to look into the May Day, the Haymarket riot or the Haymarket affair, and I just I encourage you to look into all of that and do a little research if you're at all curious about any of that.

em

02:41

When I think this is going to show how annoying I am. When I think of May Day, I think of millennials. I hope you're with me on YouTube. Fred from YouTube. So annoying. But back in his heyday he had a video called May Day and he's like it's May Day and I didn't know anything about May Day except for that. So thank you for teaching you're welcome.

rainbow

03:04

You're welcome, yes, if you like. Am only thought of the youtube uh video. Now, you know, mayday, may 1st, uh, it's already passed. But and also, you know, just another push, especially if you live in the united states, look into unionizing your workplace while we can still legally have unions, because collective action is the best way to fight against oppression.

em

03:25

So true, bae. I like to imagine people recommending this to their friends, like, oh my god, they talk about Haikyuu and how gay it is, let's put it on. And then every intro is the most serious topic ever.

rainbow

03:37

And they're just like what the fuck is this? I do wonder if part of me is like are we losing listeners because of this? But I'm also like you know what? That's okay with me, you guys can skip ahead. We have chapters. Yeah, we have chapters. You can skip ahead, nobody's gonna be mad at you. But, like for those of you out here who out there, who do like, like you know, learning about what I have to say, who love the sound of my voice, um, keep listening yeah, there you go all right.

03:58

Moving on, I'm gonna talk more because I have um some housekeeping keep going baby, because I'm taking it away in the first half. That's true yeah, so I can't believe I made it through all of season three without sharing my headcanon about ushi jima's dad, and I think he's gay and I think that's why his parents got divorced. I think that's why he's living abroad. There's like more stuff I can talk about in the time skip when we learn a little bit more about ushi jima's dad, but I just it was nice to see you.

04:24

No, your dad is gay and like it leads to this headcanon. Like I think like Ushijima, despite all his like elitism and like you know his bluntness and stuff, like I think he's like the least like a homophobic character, I think he's like the most okay with gay, like he himself is like very easy, easily settles into his own sexuality. I like to think you know I can't talk about spoiler stuff, but I like to think you know I can't talk about spoiler stuff but I like to think he helps other characters come to terms with their own sexuality.

em

04:48

I think I know who you're talking about, because I was going to say, without giving spoilers, I know quite a few fics about him and, a certain time, skip character. Yes.

rainbow

04:57

So yeah, I just I can't believe I didn't share that head canon. And I first I was thinking I was like, oh, I didn't go deep enough into like Ushijima as a reliable player, blah, blah blah. But I was listening to season three, episode 10. And I was like you know what I feel, like I discussed that as much as I need to, so but I was like I can't believe I didn't share my Ushijima dad headcanon. How could I, as the last vestiges of season three I don't know if we've done this before but like, how are you feeling? Are you what's? What are you feeling? What are you excited about?

em

05:36

I'm feeling titillated. I'm feeling like maybe I'm getting a little sick, but that's not related. I'm. We're meeting two people that a lot of the fandom is obsessed with, and maybe some of our listeners have been waiting, and I'm going to try not to disappoint you with my reflections.

rainbow

05:53

Well, we'll see how it goes. I think, generally, like when we watch this show, at least when I get like deep into the analysis even characters like Love, where I'm like I hate you, why are you here? It's just like no, you serve the narrative in this way. Love, where I'm like I hate you, why are you here?

em

06:05

it's just like no, you serve the narrative in this way and I understand. I'm very excited to look at these new characters under our podcast microscope and see how I feel about them now well, and I think there's a discussion to be had about canon versus fanon.

rainbow

06:15

Oh, absolutely for sure that that we can definitely talk about um, which I don't know how much we've really gotten it.

em

06:21

We've gotten into it a little bit with some characters and ships but the we got some characters coming up that are very dependent on fanon. Yes, but let's get into it let's get into it. All right, all right. Rainbow's doing our recap for season four, first episode in three, two one.

rainbow

06:37

Season four is off with a bang. Despite the change in animation style, that classic Haikyuu mix of humor and intensity is still here. After comparing heights, the team learns that Kageyama and Tsukishima have both been invited to special training camps. Hinata, not wanting to be left in the dust, comes up with a plan to train with other strong players, but an old rival tries to put him in his place. Will Hinata get arrested trying to break into the Tokyo training camp? Find out on this week's episode of Haikyuu. To break into the Tokyo training camp. Find out on this week's episode of Haikyuu. And before we get right into it, I do want to say that the episode title is the same in the dub and the sub introduction, so that's very weird. I'm going to keep an eye out and see if that continues to happen.

em

07:16

Yeah, I don't know. It's like what else can you say Hajimumashite? If the dub said Hajimumashite, I would love that. Right, let's, let's go take it off. Take it away. I'm taking it off, all right.

07:31

So in real time it's only been maybe a few days since the end of season three, but to me it feels like it's a whole new Hinata, walking in, munching on his second breakfast. Uh, his little friend achan who I don't know if we ever get his actual name, but just one of many of Hinata's background friends joins him and they look at the congratulations banner for their team and we have Kiyoko who is calling down to him reminding him that they have to get their measurements done and to let the other first years know. And everyone around is like, whoa, the Shimazu Senpai was talking to Hinata. It's only been a few days since the finals, but it just feels like Hinata is that guy on campus, you know. But it doesn't last long, because here comes Kageyama who appears out of nowhere and scares Achan. He like backs away and is like, oh, it's so like I forget that Kageyama is scary, because to me he's just a little blueberry In true Kageyama fashion. He immediately is challenging Hinata to see who is going to have the highest reach?

rainbow

08:29

I love them so much. I feel so bad, for is it Achan or is it Yachan? Achan, achan? I feel so bad because he's just in the background, like dealing with Kageyama gayness, because they're like getting up in each other's faces.

em

08:43

Yes, hina gayness, because they're like getting up in each other's faces. Yes, that moment is so funny. Because? So, because I think we got a little bit of this in the end of season.

rainbow

08:51

No, no, no.

em

08:52

What I'm saying is this is where we see them make that initial wager that they refer to at the end of season three, episode 10. Hina, just like let's make it interesting and make it a wager. And Kageyama is like three curry buns, just like you're on. And then, yeah, they get up in each other's faces like it's before a boxing match. And Achan in the background is like is this really their teamwork, which we see several times, is outsiders looking at Kageyama, even the whole team, and how just like ridiculous they are. And they're like they couldn't possibly be soulmates on the court, but they can be. And the background conversation I don't know how it goes down in the dub, but in the sub they're, you know, just like I'm the man who defeated a boar and Kageyama's like I'm a man who defeated a bear. What are we talking about?

rainbow

09:35

Okay, I I like vaguely heard Kageyama say something about a bear and I was like that can't possibly be important, they're just like posturing at each other.

em

09:45

They can't help themselves.

rainbow

09:46

It's so ridiculous. And when do we need? When should we talk about the new animation? When do we talk about how it's different?

em

09:55

I well, I'll really have my moment, like halfway through the episode, where I talk more about it. But we can talk about it now.

rainbow

10:02

I just yeah, I think something that we should talk about as we're kind of getting into this episode is that it took like a couple years for this to come out right. People were waiting a long time for season four and I think it got delayed by COVID. Covid delayed it.

em

10:15

I did like a little bit of Googling not too much, but on Reddit, I think. Like anime studios, I think, are always go, go, go to keep the lights on, so like by the time things were ready that animation team had moved on to another project and then they had to wait for a director to get attached. So a lot of, like, I think, logistical things. And then I'm not totally sure I know the answer is out there. But, like the style, the art style in the manga also changes as well, like we, I do, and I definitely noticed it reading these chapters, noticed it reading these chapters like we've moved away from kind of that elfin look that they all have and it is more simplistic and looks a little bit more like season four.

10:49

So I don't know if it was the changes in team or if they were trying to match more the new style, because I do think it actually matches what the manga does. I'm not entirely sure. I'll have to do some more googling, or if a lovely writer wants to write in and be like it's this, you fool, we'd love to hear about it well, and I think that's like I.

rainbow

11:08

I think that's interesting because I mean this you know, manga is ongoing and I'm sure artist styles change over time. Like I've seen it on um, like social media, people post like here's something I did three years ago and here's something I did, like last month, and you can see the change in style. So I think it would make sense. Yeah, and I wonder if, like you're saying, it's more simplistic. I wonder if it was just kind of a like hey man, this can't be so stylistic, we gotta, we gotta get this shit out. I think so.

em

11:32

I think mangakas get under, especially when it gets popular and they have to come out weekly.

rainbow

11:36

You know, some things will get changed or sacrificed so that they can work faster which I think again is just a big problem with the um, the marriage of art and capitalism. They need to get divorced. I would like people to. I like, I think that's like a media sea that we have, where, just like, things have to come out like right now it's like it's ruining mangas for me.

em

11:56

I feel like it hurt JJK a lot. It hurt. Oh yeah, I don't know. I wish everyone would just take take their time. That's a lesson from Haikyuu.

rainbow

12:04

Let's all just take a breath yeah, maybe that's, maybe, uh, furudate was trying to say something, um, but yeah, no, I think, and I don't think that's just manga, I think that's art in general. I think we see it with movies, we see it with tv shows. I think that's one of the reasons, like Wicked, like they really took their time with it and they like but, and I think they did it right, I think, if you, I think it's how I should, um, do fic writing, which is like make it all, yes, and then like do the editing and start releasing, because, like now, we're able to get part two of wicked, like a year later, and we know that the story has been completed and we know all it comes down to now is just editing, and editing can really change things absolutely, but I just I think that's a better way of telling stories and I just think artists should be allowed to be artists well, and again, it's that we need a divorce from it being a business and being, you know, making money.

em

12:51

Making money because we do have a problem with needing instant gratification in society. Now it's them damn phones, but we don't need to cater to that because the quality suffers. So it's like pick your hard. Either you get quick and crap or slow, but quality I know which one I'm picking.

rainbow

13:08

Yeah, okay, I think we've said all we should say on that, but I have many more thoughts on it.

em

13:13

Just to put it simply, and this is actually, I don't think, a very I mean, I don't know, I can't tell if Twitter opinions are the popular opinions truly or not, because I feel like generally, a lot of people love the season four style. I do not. I really liked the first style. I thought it was fitting, I thought it was original, I liked it, I liked how everyone looked, and with season four, it's not my favorite. It's really not. And also we meet so many new characters who I wish I could have seen in the original style.

rainbow

13:38

That being said, I think overall not my favorite, but then we get some very specific shots of our characters that look amazing, and we have one that I'm gonna go into detail with this episode well and but, and I will say, I think like the, the quickness with which this season was coming out, or like how, whatever it was, because you know, there are these amazing moments, but then there's some other moments, and I think that's where COVID really hurt because we do have there's like one episode in particular, but there's a few where, like, the animation is rough and they look horrible, but it's because it's rushed, yeah.

14:11

All right, okay, so we're, now that we're past the first two minutes.

em

14:17

We get into our new intro song, which is Phoenix by the Burnout Syndromes, and I really like this song. I forget about this intro. It's very like, it's very epic. So now back into the episode. We're at Ukai's shop and he is calling around alumni for donations, but old ladies are too busy trying to set him up. Really, Ukai is 27.

rainbow

14:36

I've no money and no prospects. I'm already a burden to my parents and I'm frightened. Well, and I love it because it's like well, these alumni clearly don't realize that he's in love with his fellow volleyball coach.

em

14:51

Like he's already locked in, he's already locked down, don't worry about it, and this is just another symptom of for a dot. He even said himself he didn't get too much in their personal lives because he didn't think people would be into it for some reason. But like I wish we could go a little bit deeper of a dive. Like is Ukai just like, just simply not interested? Like what? What's his deal, you know? But I also think, like I don't really know what the, what the customs are in Japan, like if it's normal to get married earlier. Still, like if 27 is considered an old maid age.

rainbow

15:18

I don't know, I'm gonna have to look into it well, and if he is talking to people from an older generation, I think that would make sense. I mean, I mean, even here in the United States, like you know, if you talk to our parents or our grandparents, it's like us being, you know, like either close to 30 or in our 30s and not married yet is insane to people. So I totally get that and you know I do. Part of me does wish we got more of their personal lives, but on the other hand that opens up so many like fanon possibilities. Right, it's like if we'd gotten more, like you know, then I couldn't head canon that ukai is so upset because he's gay and doesn't want to marry a woman.

em

15:51

There's such a special balance between taking what you get in canon and then mixing it with, like your imagination, it's true. So we have takanoe who enters, uh, laughing at poor ukai's demise, but then he tells him he'll make the video for his precious juniors. We'll find out a little bit more about that, but also I would be Takanoe. I don't know if you guys know, but I am an AV girl. I like to edit, I like to make videos, I like to do things. But now it's time back at school for our boys to get measured. Hinata is very intense. Shimizu was like are you ready? He's like ready and he gets measured and he's very proud to announce that he is 164.2 centimeters and he's grown a whole 1.4 centimeters taller.

rainbow

16:31

Yes, and I did want to note in the dub they did not change it to the imperial system, they kept it at the metric system.

em

16:38

That's good because they do change it in the manga for English people or for Americans, I guess, and the way it was like 55th, 100th of a, what it was so ridiculous, it's like just keep it, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, and I can't remember.

rainbow

16:50

I feel like in the, I feel like in earlier seasons, like I think when we meet Noya they're using feet and inches and I assume it was a mouth flap thing. Because, like, I feel like trying to say like five, four is gonna be harder to match up with a mouth flap.

em

17:07

That's saying like a hundred and whatever centimeters and I kind of appreciated it because and yeah, I think part of it is because, like, the centimeters and millimeters give you a little bit more of like, it's a little like they're smaller units and you really can go with like the point four and whatever and Hinata reminds me of a kid who's like I'm not six, I'm six and a half, Like every little bit counts for him, Whereas when Kageyama comes out, he just simply says his height is like oh, I don't think I wrote it down, but it was like 180 something and Hinata's like point, and Kageyama goes 0.9, which Hinata would have rounded up and made a big deal out of. But you know, Kageyama doesn't feel the same need because he's tall.

rainbow

17:49

But then Hinata like does the math in his head because, as Ennoshita points out, this is the only math he's good at he points out that he grew like one millimeter more than Kageyama did, yes, and so he wins. And I think Kageyama is like pissed, he's like damn it. He's like how do you figure you win?

em

18:07

and then we have Tsukishima coming out. Tsukishima comes out and he's like oh, are you comparing shrimps and little gnomes? Basically, as he has breached the 190s and looking very proud of himself. And you know he doesn't actually really care about the hype, but just that it'll ruin Hinata's day. Who is screaming and rolling around on the floor?

rainbow

18:26

And can we talk for a second? I don't know if you noticed Yamaguchi, but he looks so proud, please.

em

18:30

Yamaguchi is Tsukki's biggest fangirl. I could use other words, but I'll keep it PG for the For this explicit podcast For the preschool toys. So then Tanaka gets a call, as we saw at the end of season three, and now we've kind of caught up where we left off with that last post-credits scene with the boys measuring their jumping heights. But we do get a little bit more detail. Tsukki gets the highest so far with 334 centimeters. Noya jumps and he's pretty high as well, and there's two boys from, I think, like the basketball team that are watching and they're like man, he's only like 150 right. And Noya like jumps at the net and he's like I'm 160, I'm not 5'2, I'm 5'3.

19:10

Kageyama gets to 337, which is officially the highest, and then we have Hinata being the last one left and, as Yachi notices, everyone gets very serious as they're very competitive with Hina. As Hinata goes to jump, the background whites out and he has the crow wings and he gets his measurement Still not enough to beat Kageyama at 333, but he's at the same as Asahi, who was like I'm not going to lose. And we get an interesting observation from Noya. He says guys who really aim to go higher are different, and I think this is what makes everyone so competitive with Hinata, because nobody wants it more than him, and they know it yeah, Yachi says um, before he jumps.

rainbow

19:48

She thinks in the dub she says everyone's looking at Hinata like a true rival, yes, which I love. And yeah. And then I, I have a little. I have Noya's exact line go for it. Yeah. And so, noya, because he, you know, he says that um, and then Asahi and Suga are like well, how do you mean like? What do you mean by that? And Noya says you know, with Hinata, he, you know, he says that um, and then Asahi and Suga are like well, how do you mean like, what do you mean by that? And Noya says you know, with Hinata, he, you know, when you're trying to spike, you're just trying to get as high as the ball. But with Hinata, he's absolutely positive that Kageyama will get the ball to him, so his main goal is to jump as high as he possibly can.

em

20:20

Yeah which shut the fuck up. And Suga adds so you're saying Kageyama is inadvertently improving Hinata's jumping height? Just once again how their partnership inherently improves each other.

rainbow

20:33

And it's both of them I like. I feel like there's like this particular moment, there's like a focus on how Kageyama is improving Hinata, but like it can never be forgotten that like Hinata is also the reason Kageyama has grown Like he was. He completely developed like a new way of setting during the training camp because of Hinata. Like they make each other stronger.

em

20:53

This is why. This is why, guys, this is why Kageyama shippers are like this Okay, there's something coded and it's the way that, like, Kageyama helps Hinata with technicalities and Hinata kind of just makes Kageyama almost a better person, like a better setter, but like, just like more willing to listen and change and like not be so egotistical.

rainbow

21:13

He like yeah, he doesn't let Kageyama get away with his bullshit. And it's not the way that like Kindaichi was like, because like Kindaichi was just like, I'm just gonna walk away. Where Hinata's like no, I'm gonna fight you.

em

21:29

Not only like not getting away with your bullshit, but also accepting him for who he is, which we will get more of later in the season, but like. We've even seen how he thinks that the king of the court thing is cool. It's like embrace the strong parts of you and get rid of the shitty parts, please. So, yeah, no, Hinata's form is better inherently because he's always jumping straight up to match Kageyama. So now, like last time in 310, Kageyama makes the wager of buying yogurt for the loser for a week, and then we have Takeda appearing to give the news that Kageyama has been invited to the all Japan youth training camp. Everyone is shook. Even Kiyoko is like amazing, that's all I can think to say. Is that's amazing? They all know what this means. These are the kids that are looked at for the olympics one day.

22:07

Same level as Ushiwaka Ennoshita goes on to explain that this camp looks at 15 and 16 year olds to see who will be that next rep, and they select a tiny handful of like the best of the best. Uh Kanoshita, remember him? Background says how insane and next level that is, as I love the juxtaposition of this of like. You know, Kageyama is this monster and it's just another reminder that he is the best on their team and he's on another level. But at the same time we have Noya and Tanaka, just like total big brother, like ruffling his hair and jumping on him, and he's just like please stop, please stop. He's like I'm overstimulated, like again like there's Kageyama, the volleyball monster, and then there's Topio, the little dork, who is the youngest of them, and it's. I love that juxtaposition.

rainbow

22:50

He's the baby. And also I just want to say my note here is that Kageyama works hard and he deserves this. Like oh yeah, and he's very confident and we'll get into Hinata in a moment.

em

23:02

Oh yeah. So Takada explains that this is actually not a requirement to go. It is happening shortly before the spring tournament in January and blah, blah, blah. But Kageyama and Daichi at the same time says that he'll go. And I love this is very sweet moment because Kageyama looks at Daichi kind of surprised and Daichi says like he's just supportive, he's. He says, you know, this is a great opportunity and there's no point in a team like us being timid, you know? So what we lose Kageyama for what? Five days, like it would be so ridiculous for him not to go.

rainbow

23:30

Plus I don't think they get into this, but like these are like the. You know Daichi does say these are like the best players and like you should go and observe them, but it's also like you're gonna. You will probably see some of these people at nationals. Like if these people are like such good volleyball players, they probably are on other like teams. Like not all of the team, not all of them are going to be at nationals, but like you can expect that some of them will be and it's like good to know kind of how they play and like what their styles are it would make no sense.

em

23:57

I think Takada was just giving that option because I think they told him it's not a requirement.

rainbow

24:02

It would just make no sense for Kageyama not to go I think Takeda is just being such a great like coach and specifically like a great like adult in this episode. We'll talk about it a little bit later too. But like that is like he's just like here's this great opportunity and like it is your choice whether or not you go so Hinata has the actual balls to ask what about him?

em

24:22

and I love Tsukki's reaction. It's literally him just being like be for fucking real. He's like it's all Japan, all of Japan. Do you understand that? Like Hinata, you do have raw talent and you are a very promising rookie, but let's just be real for a second.

rainbow

24:39

Here's the thing. Here's the thing Kageyama is confident, Hinata is cocky, and that's what pisses Kageyama off cocky.

em

24:47

Delusional maybe is the word I want.

rainbow

24:49

I see, for me I define cockiness as like confidence mixed with delusion, like it is a delusional kind, like he thinks, like I think I think Hinata thinks he's being confident. It's like no, you are being cocky because like how, how can you think you're being invited to this? But I, you know, we'll get into it later in this episode I think it makes so much sense and like I think what happens to him later because of the attitude he has here, it's like, oh no, no, you, actually it's good that what happens happens he this, this arc is so needed and, yeah, we will continue to get into it.

em

25:22

So in a I thought was an interesting parallel actually to Tendo and Ushijima, suga approaches Kageyama and says, like make sure you tell those interviewers that it was your suga senpai that showed you the ropes. And Kageyama, who is just like Ushijima, is just like uh-huh, like he just kind of goes along with that. He's like I don't know why, that's what we're thinking about, but okay. And then asahi is wondering where his boyfriend's invitation is. He's like I'm surprised they didn't pick Nishinoya, him, in the third year's talk and they're like well, we probably are biased. But they also point out that obviously Kageyama and Nishinoya are on similar levels. That's been established. But Daichi points out that these guys are looking for not only skill and talent but balanced players and for like a Libro. And as they're talking, noya is jumping up and down on Hinata's shoulders. He's a little too immature, a little too. They're looking for someone who plays well with others and well, if you disappoint Nishinoya, he's gonna like hurt the principal.

rainbow

26:15

So well, and I and I think Hinata, I think not Hinata Noya, I think Noya is just not as serious as Kageyama. Like Noya is a good player and we like we know he wants to do his best, but we haven't really seen any of the same ambition from him that we see in Kageyama. I also just want to say that like he's jumping on Hinata and then he does like a full handstand on Hinata shoulders and it's so insane I'm like what?

em

26:41

is this?

rainbow

26:42

noya is so important to me, and I don't remember what his actual star sign is, but that man is a Sagittarius and I also want to note, for some reason I thought that Tsukkigot, uh, an English VA change in the season four dub. Oh really, um, yeah, but I don't, he doesn't. I like was looking it up and I was like just seeing the same name. So if anyone else has information about there, I just feel like I saw online like some sort of announcement of like oh, I'm so proud to be playing Tsukishima in season four, but maybe that was like he was asked to come back. Yeah, probably, I don't know anyway, now that is not all.

em

27:13

Takara has one more piece of news a special training camp for promising rookies in miyagi prefecture, specifically only open to first years, Tsukki has invited.

rainbow

27:23

He says one of the Karasuno first years has been invited and it cuts to Hinata, who like, does like a little nod. He is so sure it's him, and then it's Tsukishima.

em

27:34

And this one would be more understanding for Hinata to expect that it's him. But as we know, Tsukki was the MVP in finals. I think he really impressed people with how he moved. And now, differently from Kageyama, Tsukki is more than ready to turn this down. He starts to say well, we have the tourney coming up. So. But Daichi, again a proud father, interrupts him and he's like do your best, suki. And gives him like a look like I'm not letting you get a wiggle out of this when you're going to that fucking training camp. Hinata once again asks what about him? And this time again, I have to agree Hinata has promising rookie written all over him. But you know what are you going to do?

rainbow

28:11

Well, and we'll find out later why it makes it. We're going to get into it into the second half of like, why we think Hinata wasn't invited. Yes, yes.

em

28:21

So I need to just take a moment here. This is again where I said earlier season four has just these really specific shots of characters where they look so good and so cool, and this is one of them. This is an iconic moment to me. As a Kageyama fan. This is where he says, oi, I'm going on ahead.

28:42

And he looks down at Hinata and he just has this like mean smile and he looks like, especially in season four, Kageyama really is giving blueberry. He's got this round little head and he looks like this little dork like 99% of the time, but here he looks like huge and scary and I was like, oh, this is the Kageyama that I love. He was my absolute always Twitter profile picture back when I was on Twitter, like I love this shot so much. And then we have Hinata who is like like making a crazy face because he's so frustrated Like you know, aside from Yamaguchi, who is not a starter yet and still has work to do, he's fading behind his other first years and like he wants it more than anybody arguably Kageyama maybe and that's got to be so fucking hard to just sit by and watch them go on ahead.

rainbow

29:32

Well, no, this moment is great and I will say this is a great Kageyama dub moment. Like I have been very honest about, like Kageyama dub is not great. I remember this was like so I was watching the season four dub like around the time when I was like first getting to know him on Twitter and I like I will always associate that image of Kageyama with you because it was your profile picture for so long and I remember I think I posted I think somebody posted something about the like I'll see you from the top and I remember you freaking out about it because it is so good. Yeah, because Kageyama. Because like Hinata's like frustrated and he's all like growly and like Kageyama's behind him and he goes, hey, and Hinata turns around, he goes I'll see you from the top and you guys know I am not a dub fan.

em

30:17

I've been vocal about that but I was very proud of this moment.

rainbow

30:20

I thought they translated it very well, I think you should put it in. I think, instead of me saying it, it should be Kageyama. I would love to hear it in the audio. They'll see you from the top.

em

30:29

I can. I can make that happen. I also love how he says it in the sub, but I also just love Kageyama's sub voice in general, so that's not hard to do. Yeah, so yeah, that takes us about halfway through the episode. I hand the torch off to rainbow to walk us through the second half.

rainbow

30:42

Yes, okay, so we leave that moment and now we now it's after practice and we have Tsukiyama going to Sakunoshita after practice and I just love getting to see them as like little besties.

em

30:55

This moment is really small but so special to me because, like the way Tsuki talks to him, it's like such a soft private moment of theirs. And you get to see like cause usually with Tsukiyama Tsuki's like such a soft private moment of theirs and you get to see like, because usually with TsukiYama Tsukki's like making fun of someone and Yamaguchi's laughing, but like it's almost like a little flirty.

rainbow

31:10

I don't know, I just feel like I'm seeing the secret boyfriends when I'm not supposed to there's something very intimate about this because it really is just the two of them and they're like in this like bubble together, because we see, like Yamaguchi is like talk they're talking about the U19 training camp and how like and and I think Tsukishima says something of like oh, would you like try to go and he has like a little smile on his face which we like never see that with him. Like, usually when he's smile he is like smug or like smirking at somebody, but this is just a genuine like.

em

31:40

He's just having like a little fun conversation with his best friend and it's just like I love it so much it's like and I, I almost forget that it's kind of important what they're saying, because Yamaguchi also points out that this is the tokyo training center, this is where they train the olympics olympians. I should say and. And Tsukki, again, that's what's kind of flirty to me about it. He's like if you want to go, so bad, why don't you break in? And Yamaguchi's like I would get arrested.

rainbow

32:04

Tsukki, you're so silly yes, and and they they notice that Hinata is there because Hinata is um, he's there like buying a travel toothbrush and that travel toothbrush becomes like a symbol that we'll talk about like in later episodes.

32:16

But he's like looking at this toothbrush and then he like here he overhears them saying this about like getting arrested, and then he like goes to like rush out and Yamaguchi tries to like say something of like oh, us other, uh, you know us other first years will just have to hold down the fort and Hinata like, very uncharacteristically, is just like brushes past them and like goes out and we and then we kind of move on to like a little montage that shows time is passing but also like really shows that Hinata is like so jealous of Kageyama, like we see Takeda talking to Kageyama and Hinata is like so jealous of Kageyama, like we see Takada talking to Kageyama and Hinata's like so pissed about it. And I'm sure there are um like fics about this um time. But I would love to like really get like an internal monologue from Hinata or like internal like thoughts and like his frustration with it and like does it affect like the way he and Kageyama interact outside of practice?

em

33:05

Well, it's interesting because they're still in that kind of montage, they're still practicing together late into the night. Yes, and one of the third years is, like you know, Kageyama has the training camp tomorrow. I almost feel like there's like on the court, Kageyama and off the court. And off the court does not affect on the court.

rainbow

33:21

Well, that's what I'm saying, so like. That's why I said outside of practice, because I don't think it changes for them in practice. I think they're still like, they're still kakehina, but like are they? Like you know, because we've seen them before. They're kind of like attached at the hip outside of school, outside of practice sometimes. Like, has that changed at all? Or is Hinata like burying that down? Like they're so plain with their feelings.

em

33:42

yeah, sometimes and sometimes like sometimes in canon, they like don't talk about things that's true yeah, I feel like they just don't talk about these things and I did want to point out I really love they.

rainbow

33:52

Always they like to show the moon, um and it's a quarter moon um, when kagehina are practicing. We don't even see them practicing. We just hear Hinata, and maybe this is where it's coming out, where he's like one more, he's like one more, maybe that's, maybe that's what's coming out. Is him being like I have to train harder, I have to go like I have to do more. So then, um, you know, they leave practice and we see Hinata biking up the mountain as it begins to snow and his breath is coming out.

34:16

This is like a really cool scene. He's like biking really hard. You can see the turmoil on his face and he's envisioning Kageyama's back, yeah, and he's like always trying to chase him and, and I think, after the high of beating Ushijima, this is like he gets knocked back down again. He's so low and he he's reminded that he still has a ways to go, and this is why I brought up him being cocky when Kageyama got invited to the u19 training camp. I think, in a way, Hinata needed this blow to his ego. I think he needed to be reminded that, like hey, man, because, like you know, at this point. Kageyama being Kageyama is like he's just so used to that. But this is like a non-Kageyama force coming in to be like, hey, yeah, you've got some skill and you've got some talent, but like you still have such a long ways to go. And it's like what Washijo said in the last episode of season three the more more ambitious his goals, the more he's going to struggle.

em

35:06

Yeah, this is like I think it's so easy at least for me it's so easy to forget how Hinata doesn't have really much experience at all. High school has been the most of his experience and we're still only in year one. And while he has this like natural talent, there's so much technically that he still sucks at serving and blocking, as Kageyama is always reminding him. And that's why because it can be easy to forget when you can pull off cool moves with a specific setter but, like you, on your own still have a lot of work to do, and it is a very cold reminder for him and for the audience well, and receiving, I think, is still the biggest thing.

rainbow

35:40

He, you know he's trying, he's doing better, but like look at the receives, he did in season three a lot he received twice with his face he did that like one like almost block receive, but again that was like it's like Kageyama was pointing out like that's kind of dumb luck, like you weren't going, you weren't like positioning yourself, you just happened to be in the line of the ball.

em

36:00

Yeah, you can't truly level up with, just like your, your crazy moves that you pull off once in a while.

rainbow

36:05

Yeah yeah, and so I think that's his problem and I just just want to say that like it's insane that Hinata literally bikes up a mountain twice a day going to and from school. Like he has to bike up the mountain to go home. I assume he's biking up from the other direction on his way to school and I do think that's a really beautiful metaphor for his struggle and I think it's important. Like mountain imagery is so, like is so key, like he or Kageyama part of his name means mountain, and then in season three like that was like the big visual metaphor at the beginning of the opening was like the, the mountain that Karasuno has to climb that turns into the giant eagle.

em

36:39

Like and the fact that they live in Miyagi, which is like a very mountainous region as someone who has recently started bike riding again and has to get off and walk the bike up a very slight incline of a hill couldn't be me I mean, yeah, that's that.

rainbow

36:54

I was thinking about that a lot. I was thinking about me trying to ride my bike and how I'm like five minutes in and I'm like I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go drink some water um, but you know, we don't have the insane athleticism of Hinata Shoyo.

37:07

Yeah, um, okay, so then that's, that's a night, and then we go to the next day. We have Kageyama getting off the train in Tokyo, um, and he looks at the directions that Takada gave him, but our sweet dumb boy is trying to read. He's like Uto Utono, our dumb boy can't read it, but, and he's nothing if not persistent though, because he tries a couple times to read it. He's like Uto Utono, our dumb boy, can't read it, but, and he's nothing if not persistent though, because he tries a couple times to read it, and then he just goes. Ok, he just like. He's like I got, I'm going to go, and I do need a side story of, like, what was his adventure in Tokyo? Like, trying to find his way.

em

37:41

Oh yeah, give me, give me not even an OVA. Just give me not even an OVA. Just give me a little five minute clip of that.

rainbow

37:46

Give me a little, just a little. Something Like I don't need an, I don't need a ad for water, I need Kageyama. They could work that into like some sort of Tokyo ad.

em

37:55

I'm sure the subway ad like oh my God. Like help Kageyama make his way through.

rainbow

38:00

Stop it, oh my God give me a phone game, honestly, um, anyway. But then we go, we cut back to cross no, for a second. We have suga, Tanaka and inoshita and they're talking about Kageyama and how he has directions. But inoshita says that he hopes Takeda gave him furigana. And so, uh, because m is um so so studious with her japanese, can you explain what the furigana are and like, why would Kageyama need those?

em

38:26

So the furigana is, and I'm going to probably fuck up the actual like technical logistics of this, but I'm going to explain it the best way I know how. So there's three levels of the Japanese. It's not an alphabet, I guess it's their character system. Yeah, furigana is like the base. Yes, it's the base. It's the first thing you learn and it's just assigning the like, basically the different sounds that go with each symbol. Right, stay with me.

38:51

And then there's katakana, which is more incorporating like foreign words and new words that weren't, you know, made thousands of years ago. And then there's kanji, and kanji are the really complicated looking symbols and there's like a whole big thing of them and they mean different words and I want to know, like, what the norm is for like a typical Japanese person, like how much kanji are they familiar with? Because it is the norm to have the furigana, so like the breakdown of the kanji, like written right above or next to it. You'll see that if you read mangas and stuff like that has been really helpful to me. And so that's what Inoshita is saying is he's hoping that Takeda included that furigana so that Kagey can break down what the kanji means yeah, so in my understanding of kanji is that the characters themselves were actually um incorporated from the chinese which makes sense when you look at them yeah, um, but they like, so you can look at one.

rainbow

39:41

You can look at one character, and it might be pronounced like a couple different ways.

39:46

And that's why you have the furigana there, because that shows you like, oh, this is how you pronounce this particular kanji. And that's why it's so confusing for Kageyama, because he's trying to read but he doesn't have that furigana. So he's like, is it this kanji? Does it mean this or does it mean this? And so it's confusing for him and I think I've read, because I think there's like 4,000 kanji characters. From what I've seen, it's either 2,000 or 4,000. It's a lot and I think, like generally, like most people in Japan, like off the top of their head, they only really know like a few hundred Is what I believe, is what I've heard.

em

40:22

If anyone out there knows better, you know, let us know, I'm sure it varies, and for someone like Kageyama, I'm sure he only knows, like the very basics. He's where I'm at, where, like I can count to seven and I know.

rainbow

40:33

So I know Tokyo, I know haha, and chichi, yes you know well, and I think we we learned when they were studying for their exams back in season two, that he's really good at memorization. But again, without that furigana there it's basically like useless, because he can like know that this kanji could mean this or could mean this, but it doesn't help. Yeah, so you know. So, yeah, he's determined and he's going to go, and then we also. So we're still at Karasuno and this trends into Yamaguchi, noticing that Hinata isn't at morning practice and asking asahi about it. And then somebody says like, oh, you know, I think that that training camp at Shiratorizawa is probably straight starting now.

41:14

And so we cut to Shiratorizawa and we see a line of players. We see Goshiki, Hyakuzawa, Kunimi, Kindaichi, Kogane and Tsukishima, um, and there's some really, really cool like rock music playing in the background, love that. And Tsukishima is the only one of that line of people who are not looking over to one side, and they all have like a mix of emotions on their face, like some of them look pissed, others look kind of like indifferent or thoughtful, maybe a little annoyed. Kogane looks kind of excited, but I was like that's also just his personality. And then anabara who, if you don't remember him. He's the coach of Johzenji and he is like, looking confused. He's looking at his clipboard, he's like what? And then we cut. And who is standing there wiggly and excited and a little proud of himself?

em

41:58

Hinata our boy Hinata. The guy, the coach is like um, I don't think you were invited, it's yeah, he's like um, I, um, I don't think you were invited.

rainbow

42:11

It's yeah, he's like um, I don't think you're on my list here, and it's so funny. And then this is where in the anime, we get our commercial break and we get a new animation for the commercial break. Oh, so, yeah, so instead of, because usually the commercial breaks and I mean I don't think it's different on Crunchyroll I, it's the same. So usually, so the for the past three seasons, when we've done a commercial break, it's like you know, it's maybe somebody trying to do a serve or like a setter and spiker doing like a spike and they're trying to hit the water bottle, but now it's just like a cute little animation of like a henna to crow flying across the screen. And I was wondering if maybe it's a budget thing, because animating the spiking and the serving probably takes way more time and money than just the simple little crow on like a basic background.

em

42:51

You know, what's interesting is they made that change for the land versus air OVAs. We have them as cats trying to get to the owls. So yeah, I mean maybe it was just like, okay, it's time for a change, or it probably is simpler, but I think it's the budget thing.

rainbow

43:09

I think more than anything, because I think those OVAs were made around the same time as this season and I think it's just like listen, we gotta animate, so we gotta animate Kageyama looking really fierce here. We don't have the time and energy to animate this other thing, and all the budget went into that moment with Kageyama. Yes, well, and I feel like I've seen like I feel like other animes that I've watched like their commercial breaks aren't quite as like complicated as these, like it's often just like a little like you know. I've seen ones where it's just like, you know, little roses or it's just a little like very simple animation. So I think that was just kind of a shortcut they had to take.

43:39

And so we get back from the commercial break and we have Tsukishima being like I have never seen him this reactive before, like his, like his, his calm, like logical, rational exterior has fucking crumbled in the face of Hinata's idiocy. He is his. It's so funny. He's trying to ignore Hinata and he's thinking to himself like you don't pretend, you don't even know him, which is gonna be hard to do when you're wearing matching track jackets that both say Karasuno on them and then kogane doesn't help because he opens his big mouth and is like hey, karasuno is number 10, what are you?

em

44:11

doing here? Of course, everyone recognizes Hinata. I mean, half those people have played against him and that's why they're like this fucking kid.

rainbow

44:17

And then Tsukishima yells at Hinata for being so stupid. He's so funny, funny. He's like what are you doing here? And then Hinata says well, I didn't want to get arrested. And Tsukishima remembers the conversation between him and Yamaguchi. He's like are you saying that you would have snuck into the Tokyo training camp if you didn't think you were going to get arrested?

em

44:39

I can't believe that that was his original plan. Was he going to just stalk Kageyama to the tokyo training camp?

rainbow

44:44

I like it wouldn't have worked, obviously, but I wish that that had kind of gone down if anyone knows of a fic out there that's canon divergence, where Hinata does sneak into the tokyo training camp, you gotta send it our way. I need to read that. It's so. And we've, like I said, we've never seen Tsukishima react this way. I think he's so embarrassed he is, he has like full and I will say this, like the ball boy arc. I think a lot of people I've seen a lot of people not like it. They say it's too cringe and embarrassing, which, like cringe, is dead. Long live cringe.

em

45:17

You're soft Also. It's well we can talk about more, but it's that kind of audacity that you need to get ahead in life. Sorry, yeah.

rainbow

45:25

No, it's like. And ultimately, like Hinata does need this moment. So then we cut back to Karasuno and for some reason, it's Enoshita telling everyone that Hinata snuck. How does Enoshita have this information? Like, does it explain in the manga? No, like, why is Enoshitaita? Why isn't it Daichi? Like, did he just walk by and overhear a conversation? Like it's like. If Tsukishima was gonna like text anybody about it, it'd be Yamaguchi. So it's not from Tsukishima. I'm just so good like does. Is inoshita secretly friends with somebody else from a different school? Are he and Kindaichi tight? I'm so confused. I was just like. That really took me out of it where I was like, why is? Why are you the one telling us this? Um, so then, and then we get everyone's reaction. So Tananoya think it's hilarious that Hinata snuck in.

em

46:14

In the manga, Noya like wants to go join him.

rainbow

46:17

I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. We have Yamaguchi literally doing a spit take. He had like just taken a sip of water when Inosha told him. And then Daichi looks terrifying. They like it, like it's Tanenoya like still laughing about it, and then it cuts to Daichi and Noya doesn't really have a have a reaction, but Tanaka like immediately like shuts up.

em

46:35

Well, again it's that thing where Daichi is, in a way, responsible for his first years. So it's like my kid is being unruly. Yes, yeah, he's absolutely.

rainbow

46:44

He's like, like what is happening here? And I wanted to do a pause here because I found I, as I was watching, I was a little confused of like, okay, so there's this like five day long training camp. Are they like, are they on a school break or is he into like skipping class to do this training camp? Did all of these people? I have an answer. But I was just thinking to myself. I was like, how do, how do all these kids have time to do this? And so I looked into it and it looks like Japanese schools tend to have, other than like their summer break, which I think is like a two week break in summer, I think, in the winter and in the spring they have 10 day breaks, and I think it said that usually that 10 day break is in December, um, and it's like different for different prefectures and different schools, um, but it's probably that they're on this break and that's why these training camps are happening um and why they're able to go.

47:33

So I don't think they're missing school, because I just don't like I I think they're able to miss school for like tournaments and stuff, but I can't see them letting them take a whole week off well, hold on.

em

47:41

Actually, because I think it says, maybe in another episode, that Kageyama was excused, but like they still have school, like suka and Hinata still have school to get to, so I'm really confused.

rainbow

47:52

So like I don't, may I maybe. Is it like are there like weekend days that they're doing?

em

47:57

this. It might be an after school type of thing, and then, because then I also, like some of the kids, sleep over there at night, I don't know.

rainbow

48:04

We might find out more as we go okay logistically this is working yeah, let's just, let's just look into it, because it seems like I. I was very like. I was like, oh well, certainly they're on a school break, but maybe they're not.

em

48:15

I don't think so, okay well anyway, which just makes it even harder on Hinata. He's crazy, yes um.

rainbow

48:21

And so then we have um, we have a great little like funny animation moment here where Hinata is at Shiratorizawa. He's in the office on the phone talking to his coaches and Ukai is yelling at him. And it's one of those things where Ukai is yelling so loud that Hinata's like head gets like pushed to the side from like the force of the noise coming out of the phone. Um, and so Ukai is yelling. And then Takada, I'm not mad, I'm just a disappointed sensei. Like taps uke on the on the arm, like uke turns around and looks terrified and hands it over.

em

48:54

This is the epitome of like the one parent that yells but it doesn't hit as much because they're always yelling, and then the one parent that goes like deadly calm that you actually fear and respect I love it, because we don't even like get to see his face like furudate does that all the time where it's just like this.

rainbow

49:09

I literally couldn't even draw how terrifying this face looks right now. You just need to know from uka's reaction. And so he. He takes the phone and he says Hinata kun, there is a difference between being a go-getter and being a loose cannon. Ooh, a loose cannon. And Hinata slams his head into the desk and apologizes Like apologizes.

em

49:30

He's like. I'm sorry, I feel like loose cannon in the sub he's like and being absolutely thoughtless.

rainbow

49:35

That is yeah. I think that was more of a mouth flap thing than anyway, but I think that.

em

49:39

That's another thing that hits. It's like that's a genuine critique because, like you, just like it's ballsy and I admire the audacity but also like you're interrupting this thing, you left your other team behind.

rainbow

49:48

Like you're in trouble, young man I think it makes sense that, like he's saying, like hey, you think that you're being a go-getter, but actually you're being reckless, yes, um and so. And then anabara thinks to himself like that Takeda fellow always seems so mild manner, I better be careful. And it's like do you think he's gonna yell at you next?

em

50:07

the dub is just funny in that way. Yeah, I, I, yeah, I really love it.

rainbow

50:11

I think.

50:11

I think it's great.

50:13

Um, and so Hinata, he gets serious and he explains that he doesn't think it's less important to practice with his team, but he wants to be part of a training camp with strong players. He wants to see what strong players are like outside of matches, to see what makes them so strong. And we see him like imagining Iwaizumi, Oikawa, Ushijima and Reon, which I think is interesting because, like, none of them are first years that are going to be at this camp. But I think he's just specifically thinking about like these are like some of the players that gave us the hardest time and this is like that's. That's clearly what he thinks of, and I think it's interesting that he doesn't think of Kageyama here.

50:48

Yeah, he doesn't picture Kageyama. He pictures these like other strong players and he has a really intense look in his eyes where he says I have to know, yeah, and do you think that Hinata would have done this if Kageyama had not been invited to the U19 training camp? Like if Tsukishima was invited to the first year camp but Kageyama was still going to be training? Like, say, the U19 camp doesn't happen or it happens at a different time, so Kageyama isn't gone during this time? Do we think that, like part of Hinata, like feeling like he has to do this reckless thing is in reaction to Kageyama being ahead of him?

em

51:26

still, I certainly think that there is more of a desperation, because they're both, and with Kageyama being his personal rival, yes, but also, if Kageyama wasn't invited, he would have gone with Hinata to break into that training camp.

rainbow

51:40

You're absolutely right. First of all, if Kageyama wasn't going to the u19 training camp, he might be at the first year training camp, in which case Hinata would um still try to break in. But then, yeah, if kage, if only Tsukishima had been invited and both kage hina had been left out, they absolutely would be breaking in together. They would have like they'd been like, they would have been like fighting to get through the door. No, I think you're absolutely right. So, yeah, but yeah, I think that this is I think a part of this is a big reaction to Kageyama still being so far ahead of him, despite how much Hinata has grown since their first match in middle school.

em

52:12

I think he just again is reeling with this reminder of he still has so much work to do and, like you, really don't especially for athletes, these things start so young and he has such little time and I feel like he's really feeling that now he needs to do whatever he can and I also love like him saying all this about. He wants to know what makes them strong. This is like the perfect job interview answer. Like coach. The coach behind him like looks impressed too. Yeah, and Ibarra, yes, yeah.

rainbow

52:37

Yeah, and then. And then we have Takada being really good again. I really, again, I really love his response here. He's like he's very calm, very soft and compassionate. He's like I understand that you're feeling like frustrated about this and he acknowledges Hinata's feelings, but he is also still being very firm and he's like but you can't like, this is an unacceptable behavior. And then, as Takeda is telling Hinata he has to come back, Washijo takes the phone out of Hinata's hands and says that Hinata can stick around. He says I don't mind if we have another ball boy around. And Hinata is also looking surprised.

53:12

And just a small note, it sounds a little bit like Washijoe's voice actor has a cold, which I always. I love like figuring out in like movies and tv shows, especially tv shows when it's like, oh, I think the actor had a cold this week because they like still have to work, um, and so, so, yeah, so we end, we. We end on that for a second. Washi jo has said Hinata can stick around as a ball boy. And then we go back to tokyo and Kageyama, sweating profusely, has finally made it to the gym. He's like I did it. He's, he's very excited again. How long did it take him like? Where, what? What did he pass by? Did he run into some stray cats who wanted to fight him? I need to know. And then we hear a voice behind him say oh, karasuno high school, that's the team that beat Ushijima karasuno koko haikyuu ga.

em

54:04

I love his sub voice so much I love his sub voice.

rainbow

54:07

His dub voice is ick. It's giving shino from the naruto dub, um, but it honestly works, because Sakusa is a weird little freak. Okay, he's a weird little freak, he like his. He's all like gloomy, his like. He's wearing the mask, which doesn't make him a freak. I mean, honestly, nowadays it's like I get it, Sakusa, you wear a mask everywhere you go. And I looked it up because I was like this voice sounds really familiar. Who is it? And then it's the same guy who does Kinma's voice. He does both Kinma and Sakaza's voice, although his Sakaza voice. Again, he makes it just a little bit more like. I don't think dweeby is, it's just creepier yeah, yeah it's.

54:47

You know they're trying to get that register of like I talk low and I don't care, but it doesn't really sell for me, yeah and and I think like maybe if I had more time to get used to, if we heard more from Sakaza, maybe I would like accept it more. But just initially I'm like, oh my god, I like it gives me chills in the bad way. And now we've kind of brushed past but this is Sakusa Kiyomi from Itachiyama.

em

55:08

That's like the most mysterious, like best team in the Miyagi Prefecture. We've only seen like the back of his head so far, but now we get to see him in full well, kind of full glory. And oh my god, Timothee Chalamet, I love your work. Yes, this is Timothee Chalamet, I have nothing else to say.

rainbow

55:26

Yeah, if we were going to do a live action casting of a man of using, like Western actors, Timothee would absolutely be playing Sakusa and he would eat that roll up. He loves, he loves being a weird little freak Are you kidding me, Guys?

em

55:40

I usually don't subscribe to like the white boy of the month, but I unfortunately love Timotei Chanamei and I want him to play Sakusa.

rainbow

55:47

Listen, I love it. Well, we should do that in a bonus episode, like way, after we've like eaten up all the content we can. We should do like a fan casting, of like if we were going to make a live action Hollywood movie, yeah, we would play all of these characters. Yeah, no, this is very intense. And Kage of these characters, yeah, no, I, this is very intense. And Kageyama is really excited. Like, Kageyama is like holy shit. That's, uh, Sakusa Kiyoomi from Itichiyama and he, like he's just excited that he gets to play with and watch such high level level players.

em

56:15

He's like holy shit he's so dorky about like how he introduces himself to Sakusa and he's just like whatever. Also, I think it's noteworthy that what Sakusa cares most about is that this is the team that beat Ushijima. I wonder what that's all about.

rainbow

56:31

An underrated ship perhaps yes, no, but I really love it and I love you know. That just goes to like Kageyama. He wants to play with strong players yeah, yeah, he's like in the sub. He says waku, waku, like he's getting really excited, yeah well, no, and you mentioned how he introduces himself to Sakusa and it's like very much the introduction you give like when you join a new team of just like I'm Kageyama tobio from karasuno high school I play setter, yes, just like very earnest, with the bow and everything.

em

56:59

And saku's, just like step back I, I'm going to get your germs.

rainbow

57:03

Honestly, yeah, he just walks right by him. And then we go back to Shiratorizawa and everyone is talking about how Hinata snuck into the camp. They're just like I can't believe you snuck in. And then we cut to three players who have gone up against him Kindaichi, kogane and Goshiki who want him to stay.

em

57:25

Because Hinata makes friends and rivals everywhere he goes. Well, yeah, because Goshiki and kandai chi, he's beaten and they're like I want to take that trim down. But then what's funny is kogane hasn't gone against him, but he knows that ione respects him yes, I forgot that.

rainbow

57:33

They play the day. Tech plays against seijo, they don't play against right karasuno, yeah, so yeah, kandai chi is trying to pretend like he doesn't care, but he clearly does. He's been like who, I don't care if he stays, whatever. And then Goshiki clearly just wants to like get him back for beating them. And then Kogane is so I think he's maybe a little jealous that Aone thinks so highly.

em

57:52

He's like I guess guys that Aone senpai uh acknowledges are just on a different level it's so funny because Aone is kind of like Ushijima, in that way of like there's no frills. I mean Ione barely talks. So if he acknowledges someone to that level, that means something one, it's not even he.

rainbow

58:09

Like he and Hinata have like a bow every like they bow in this, like it's. So there's, they're like samurai. I love I, yeah, I really love them talk about underrated ships, um, and then we have Anabara kind of talking thing, talking things over with Takeda and saying that he had initially recommended Hinata for the camp. Yes, um, and then we cut to a cute little ukai take dad's moment where Takeda hangs up the phone and he's like he says to you, kai. He's like, oh, like, are you sure he's gonna be? Okay, it's so cute. And ukai assures him that like if Washijoe really didn't want him there, he'd make it loud and clear, like he would make him leave. Yeah, and so. And Ukai also mentions that Washijo appears to not have changed. He's like, looking over the list of the other students are there and he still says that Washijo favors height and strength above all else.

58:58

We also get a moment. We get to see two other Shiratorizawa team member names I think they're clearly like first years who are probably being looked at to be starters next year, and it's Shibata Yu and Yurashota Yurashota. And so I just thought that was kind of interesting, that like we see these because Goshiki is the only starter back in season three. But clearly these in second year these will probably be moved up. Or maybe this training camp is like a test to be like are you ready to be moved off of the bench?

em

59:27

Especially because there's going to be really huge shoes to fill between Ushijima, leon and Tendo being gone.

rainbow

59:33

Yeah, and so we have Ukai saying that for Hinata, this could be a really important opportunity for him. Yes, he also says how like I don't't know if he has really thought this through, though it's going to be rough, yes. And then we go back to washi, joe um, and he says to Hinata that you aren't worth anything without your personal setter, Kageyama, which, pause, you don't have to ship them so hard yeah, he's like without that setter I don't see much worth in you.

em

01:00:02

Which ouch. But like kind of a harsh truth Again. Like you got lucky that you have your volleyball soulmate, that does bring the best out of you, but alone you still have so much farther to go.

rainbow

01:00:13

Yeah, and at the very end of this I want to talk about Washijo's like reasoning. So then we see, and we see Washijo say this to Hinata, and we don't get to see his face fully, but like he clinches his fist in frustration and you can kind of see like his hair is in his eyes, but you can see that he's probably like he's got like a frown on his face and like you just know he hates hearing that he does not want to be tied to Kageyama, he doesn't want to be seen as useful only if Kageyama is on the court. But at the end of the day he knows that he wouldn't be a starting player on karasuno if Kageyama wasn't there, if they didn't have their freak quick. An inconvenient truth, yes.

01:00:51

So then going back to um Hinata's personal setter, Kageyama, um, we see him step onto the court, um, at the new training camp, and he notes that instead of hardwood, um the floors. He doesn't say what kind of material it is, at least not in the dub, but it's like blue, um, and so it instead of hardwood the floors. He doesn't say what kind of material it is, at least not in the dub, but it's like blue and so it's not hardwood. And then there are two, like randos, who he walks by and he overhears them explaining that there's a TV that shows footage from the court on a six second delay, so they can examine their plays in detail. And Kageyama is just like creaming over all of this.

em

01:01:22

I mean, yeah, this is the big leagues, this is legit, this is legitness.

rainbow

01:01:26

That was legitness. Yeah, this is like. Yeah, this is like a little like small town drag queen, like walking onto the set of RuPaul's Drag Race, like walking into the workroom like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm here. Yes, and so then we have Hiba Ritaita, who is the coach of the men's olympic volleyball team, and he gives them a little speech about how you know it used to they used to say that like japan like crumbles under, like height. Um, he says that japan can fight on the world stage and that there's like more to volleyball than just that. Hinata would agree absolutely. And then we kind of see, we see um like Sakusa, we see some blonde dude everybody's favorite blonde bitch enters the scene.

01:02:11

Yes, we don't get a name for him yet. But don't worry, listeners, we're gonna talk all about him soon and you can already see this like cocksure smile and the bad dye job.

em

01:02:20

And oh, buddy, you're gonna, you're gonna change the game of haikyuu fandom oh boy, he's gonna make lots of changes.

rainbow

01:02:29

Um, and then we also see the back of the head of some short king with white hair. Who could it be? Who could that be? And so then, um, we cut once again, finally, back to shira torosawa, and, and it's interesting because, like we see, but when we see Kageyama stepping out under the court, when I watched it I was like, oh, this is Hinata walking out to like give his little declaration. But it's Kageyama. And then we see Hinata walking out. I love this like parallel of them both going to their training camps yes, and they show it more clearly in the manga.

em

01:02:58

It's like a side-by-side battle, yes.

rainbow

01:03:01

So then Hinata comes out and he loudly declares his name, his school, his height, for some reason, and his position ball boy. And he ends with yelling thank you for having me very loud. Um, and the other, like the other um guys are just kind of like shocked by this. Anabara has to like hide his laugh with a cough and Washijoe looks pissed. He just like he has like a frown on his face. He's like glaring, he's like cut his eyes to the side to look at Hinata. And Hinata looks determined, like right back at him. He's like yeah, I'll be a fucking ball boy.

01:03:33

Because I think, I think Washijoe, I think part of him, was like oh, you know what, he can stay, but he's got to be a lowly little ball boy. And he like I think he says something of just like you can run like, kind of like giving him like that, like you can run home if you want to, like you don't have to stay here. And Hinata's like no bitch, I'm staying, I will be a ball boy, yeah, and like I'm staying at this camp. Um, I didn't break in here for nothing, um, and yet he won't let this old man beat him down. And now, um, that's the it, that's it. That's the end of the episode. So I want to talk about why do you think Washijo did not invite Hinata initially and why does he let him stay as ball boy?

em

01:04:08

I think it's so interesting because clearly the other coach, anubhara, wanted him to come and I think that that's a really valid like. Hinata is a promising rookie. He has a lot, a long way to go and you know what? He might not quite be on the same level as everyone else in that camp, and I think Washijo is just again this brand of very cut and dry bluntness of like he's not good enough. But I also think Washijo thinks he could be, but he has to pass some really high tests.

01:04:34

So I think Washijo initially shut down that idea of like well, he's a shorty and he's got a lot of technical skills, like he's not meant to be on this camp. And I feel like I don't know if it was conscious like well, if he really wants it, maybe he'll just show up. I don't know if he saw that coming or anything but the fact that Hinata came anyway. And then I think Washijou like has a love-hate relationship with this kid. He's like frustrated that this little twerp won't give up, but he's also kind of inspired by it and is allowing by allowing Hinata to stay. He's like let's see what you got.

rainbow

01:05:04

I think that I think that's definitely part of it. I think there's another thing where, you know, we saw Washijo's face at the end of the Shiratorizawa game and I think there was like this moment of awe, and I think this is almost a like reaction to that of like no, I will not let this kid change the views that I've held for the last 40 years. I still care more about strength and height than anything. That's what it takes to win volleyball. I'm not going to invite this kid and let him think that he can do what I couldn't do and I think we talked about this off mic and I don't know if it's said explicitly, but I think when Washijo was playing, I think he was a ball boy. I don't think he was allowed to be on the team because he has that like he like begs his coach, like coach, let me in, come on, I can do all these different things and the way that Hinata does um, but he was denied that and so I think he's thinking I'm gonna put this kid in his place, and I don't think Washijo realizes this, but that is actually so needed for Hinata's growth. He needs to be reminded that he still has things to work on, like just because you were able to use your spiking, the skill that you'd already been developing, like, yeah, you were able to use that to beat this strong powerhouse team Shiratorizawa, but you still have such a long way to go.

01:06:19

And I don't, you know, I maybe Washijoe somehow subconsciously does recognize that, but I don't think we're there yet with Washijo like acknowledging consciously that he believes that Hinata has potential this way. I think he's still trying to deny that to himself. But I think, because of that subconscious like, I think there is a little bit of just like, okay, let's see what you do as a ball boy. Maybe consciously, maybe he's like the first thought in his head is like I'm gonna crush him the way I was crushed. I'm not gonna let him, you know, get what he wants, and then he's gonna give up and then he can just coach other strong players the way I have. Yeah, but what he doesn't realize is he's actually giving Hinata a great opportunity, like Ukai said. Yeah, and I'm so. I love this arc. I really fucking love it. I'm so excited to talk about how Hinata grows during this training camp.

em

01:07:06

It's very necessary. And yeah, and then Kageyama at Tokyo, it's also good.

rainbow

01:07:12

Yeah, okay, anything else to say about this episode.

em

01:07:16

I'm happy to be here. I'm so excited Listeners.

rainbow

01:07:20

are you excited? Write in and let us know how do you feel about season four.

em

01:07:24

All right, shall we jump into manga versus anime? We sure do. You got a lot here, I do, I'm gonna. It's gonna eat up some time. Folks Settle in. So again I had to skip ahead because in the manga what happens next is the OVA of Nekoma versus Fukurodani and all that, and we'll cover that after season four. So we skip ahead and this covers chapters 207 to 209.

01:07:45

Just a few little differences. So at the beginning of the episode they cut out. It's actually right after their morning practice and we have Tsukki locking up the club room and threatening to lock Yamaguchi in if he doesn't hurry up. We have Kageyama getting his milk and we also get more context for Achan. So Achan is actually another kid that knew Hinata from middle school days and he knew him as the kid who would practice in the hallways. And actually what's interesting is if you remember that clip from the very first episode of the anime where he's begging his friends to help him and the one friend says like this is the third time you said, this is the last one. That's actually Achan in the manga. So this is just like another friend of Hinata's from that time. And when they're looking at the banner that congratulates him. You know Achan's kind of like it's so surprising, and Hinata is like defensive and is like don't believe it. And he's like it surprised me, but I wouldn't say I can't believe it, and he remembers the way that, like, Hinata would play with the girls team and do all these things. He also, achan, is from the band club and Hinata wants him to convince the band to come cheer them on, which I think is interesting foreshadowing.

01:08:52

And then we also I think a detail that gets missed in the anime is that menu from Saiko's family restaurant. The specials are named super spike ramen. Killer serve poters. Great Dig Fried Rice. I want Killer Serve Pot Stickers. Yeah right, I hope that this restaurant exists in Miyagi somewhere and we can go to like a Haikyuu themed restaurant. So now, that's it for the differences. But there is a bonus story that I kind of want to walk y'all through because it's really funny. It's 207.5 and it starts with it's I think they're making like a video for what's going to be incoming like first years, for next year, and it's Hinata and Yachi that are doing it and they're both so nervous Like I kind of forget about this part of Hinata's personality. He has stage fright and he gets nervous easily and I think it's Asahi. That's like these are the last people who should be doing this, because they're all like nervous and they fall over the volleyball Also.

rainbow

01:09:47

Asahi pot kettle over here, like you should also not be doing that, yeah, I know.

em

01:09:54

So Hinata is introducing the players he goes. We have Kageyama as Setter, who's a super, amazingly talented volleyball player, but he sucks at everything else. And Tsukishima too. He's a super tall and really smart middle blocker, but he's also a snarky smart mouth meanie Smart mouth meanie. Last but not least, we have the handsomest young man of the city, the black-winged crow that flies across the court, me Shouyo Hinata. It's thanks to my startling talent and amazing abilities that Karasuno has once again begun its climb back into the ranks of the best. And then Tanenoya creep up behind, like oh, is that so? And he's just like I'm just reading from the script. And then we have Tsukkiand Kageyama come up from behind, looming over him, and they're like I didn't read those parts of the script that Hinata added in. And they both gank him up and walk away with him. And then Yamaguchi steps in and takes over, goes on to introduce Tananoya. Tanaka is like girls ignoring me is the greatest reward I could get. Noya is like don't worry, I've got all your backs, uh. And then they introduce uh, shimizu. And I don't know what this line is, but she goes Shimizu. Oh, and actually what's interesting here? So Yamaguchi and Yachi introduce. Yachi says she has both beauty and brains, the greatest blocker of all time. Because she has left, she has let no one see her bare legs, which is a kind of a thing we get into way later on in the season. But they reference it for the first time in this little story. And then she walks up and she's like would you like me to stomp on you? And then blushes yeah, I know. And the third years are like you nailed it, or. And Shimizu was like no, I can't, I can't read that, it's too embarrassing. And Tanenoya are very excited to see her blush. And then Yachi ends up with saying we do take volleyball very seriously. And then we have in the background Hinata hanging from the rafters, which is where Tsukikage took him. Love that. And then what comes next?

01:11:46

There's two bonus stories, and I won't go too in detail with the second one because I think a lot of us have seen it. It's the sports field day, where they're all like they and they pick the four idiots to do the relay race. So Tananoya and Kagehina, and it's just really cute. Nishinoya actually catches another team's fallen baton, showing off his Libro skills, but that does put them farther back in the race and I think this again highlights that Nishinoya does not care about winning.

01:12:15

There's like a really handsome player from the tennis team and Tanaka runs past him really intensely because he wants to beat him out. The way he runs past him like stares at him really creepily and all the girls in the audience are like booing him, but he put earplugs in so he just sees the girls cheering but he doesn't realize that like they're booing him and stuff. Then it's Kageyama's turn and he's very fast, but as he comes up on Hinata, their instincts kick in and Hinata goes. Kageyama is approaching me at high speed and Kageyama's like Hinata somehow got in front of me and they just start to race each other and I think it's Suga who's like right, who splats face down on the ground. It's like they're racing each other and someone goes. You're right, you do have insane rookies, suga's, like I told you I love that also.

rainbow

01:13:07

Shout out to anyone else who has watched uh, the wallflower anime yes, oh my god and loves the sports day episode as much as I do for my dream, for my dream, for my dream anyway, all right. Well, that was lovely I I love that. I love kagehina's instincts kicking in and they must race each other. They're so fucking ridiculous. I wish that got animated. You know what? Just give us an ova. That's like all of these little side things.

01:13:37

Yes please it's time for the world's favorite game of who in Haikyuu. Yes, um, it's the first episode of the season and we didn't want to do a character spotlight, mainly because we really didn't like meet anyone in a significant way. So, we don't worry, though, we will do character spotlights on some of the characters that we mentioned briefly, and we'll talk about them later, but for now, let's talk about who and Haikyuu. I'm really excited for this one. Do you want to explain it for?

01:14:03

us yeah, so, um, if anyone out there has not watched love on the spectrum on netflix, um, it's really cute, go check it out. Like it is reality tv and there's an exploitation element to it, but I would say it's not nearly the level as, like, love is blind or the ultimatum. Um, no tv show is perfect, but this one is. It's just really fun and, like, as an autistic person, I I really like watching it. My biggest complaint is that they make them do neurotypical dates and they should be doing autistic dates. Yeah, like, give them neurodivergent tasks, don't make them go to speed dating, anyway. But they do a really cute thing where, when they introduce a new character, they say this person likes blank and doesn't like blank. Like one of them is like this person likes animals. They don't like chewing gum loudly in public.

em

01:14:47

Yes, it's really great. So we are going to do that for Hinata Kageyama Tsukishima, Yamaguchi Yachi, Kiyoko, Daichi Suga Asahi, Tanaka, noya Ukai and Takada. Yes, I put NPCs with a question mark, but I don't know them well enough. Hinata likes volleyball and Kageyama. He doesn't like Kageyama or Tsukishima. He doesn't like people who are jerks. He doesn't like when scary people are in front of the bathroom.

rainbow

01:15:17

Kageyama likes milk and volleyball. He doesn't like people who don't take care of their physical health or being scratched by wild animals.

em

01:15:26

That yep, I have nothing to add there. Tsukishima likes music and Yamaguchi he doesn't like people who try too hard and sweating yeah, Yamaguchi likes Tsukishima, he doesn't like he doesn't like people who take Tsukishima's attention away from him. He doesn't like people who make fun of Tsukishima. Yachi likes Shimizu-senpai. She doesn't like tall people that surround her.

rainbow

01:15:58

Yachi likes graphic design and volleyball. She doesn't like anything that makes her nervous, which is most things Kiyoko likes supporting her team.

em

01:16:14

She doesn't like the boys that are on her team.

rainbow

01:16:18

Yeah, she doesn't like being sexually harassed every episode.

em

01:16:22

Weird Daichi likes trying to get to nationals and Suga he doesn't like when his first years don't listen to him.

rainbow

01:16:33

He doesn't like getting hit in the face oh my god. He doesn't like dying Suga likes Daichi and being an agent of chaos. He doesn't like losing to date tech.

em

01:16:48

Yeah, he doesn't like when his friends fight. Oh, he really doesn't like it. Asahi likes putting his hair up out of his face, and Nishinoya, he doesn't like the pressure of being the ace.

rainbow

01:17:02

Yeah, he doesn't like letting his team down. The idea of going bald? All right. Tanaka likes girls with big boobs.

em

01:17:14

Tanaka likes Kiyoko and his first and, being a senpai, he doesn't like other men challenging him.

rainbow

01:17:24

He really doesn't he doesn't like when men challenging him. He really doesn't. He really doesn't. He doesn't like when people talk shit about his team.

em

01:17:30

Noya likes the uniforms at Karasuno. He doesn't like when Asahi doesn't believe in himself.

rainbow

01:17:37

Yes, yes.

em

01:17:42

Noya likes doing rolling thunders. He doesn't like being told how short he is. Yep, there we go.

rainbow

01:17:47

Ukai likes cigarettes. He doesn't like being set up on blind dates.

em

01:17:53

Perfect. Ukai maybe likes Takada. He doesn't like thinking about his romance life.

rainbow

01:18:01

Takada likes poetry and getting on his knees and begging he doesn't like.

em

01:18:09

He doesn't like when his kids are thoughtless. Oh man.

rainbow

01:18:14

Listeners. I hope you enjoyed that as much as we did.

em

01:18:16

We're going to have to do this for other people. I really like this one.

rainbow

01:18:21

We should definitely do it during the Land vs Air OVA, because I would love to do it with BokuAka and Nekoma.

em

01:18:30

Ennoshita likes AC. He doesn't like feeling like a loser that gives up on things.

rainbow

01:18:33

Narita likes, he doesn't like.

em

01:18:41

We don't know and hey, we don't care. You're the lion to my lioness. Oh my gosh. Okay, that's who? And Haikyuu. Before we get into the spoiler zone, and what will the spoiler zone be? Keep listening. Let me hit you with our socials as we dive into season four. Hey, we want to talk to you and we're on Twitter, instagram, tumblr and Blue sky at fly hq pod. That's fly hq pod. You can also email us at fly hq pod at gmailcom fly hq pod at gmailcom. And now we're making our way up to the mountain that is the spoiler zone.

rainbow

01:19:23

Zone.

em

01:19:23

Zone zone we're going to reach the summit soon. Yeah, a little shout out to Emily for recommending these. We decided to go with the mountain for the spoiler zone. I was contemplating a football end zone type thing, but that's not as fitting and a little too straight for my taste.

rainbow

01:19:42

And we'd be stuck with it for 25 episodes and by the third episode I'd be like we gotta change this.

em

01:19:49

And hey, it is a longer season. Maybe we'll change it halfway through to another idea, but that's what we're going with for now. I do want to say right off the top of my head I didn't write this down, but when we alluded about uh Ushijima's dad so there's so much fake out there about him and Awaisi me because they are both end up in California and I'm not mad about it yeah, well, that was kind of what I was thinking about is like oh, he's like specifically goes to like California, which is like known for being accepted, and I do think he's like I think he's at UC Irvine.

rainbow

01:20:19

Oh, specifically, specifically I think it's UC Irvine, which I think is maybe I think that's like kind of near Orange County, which is like the most Republican part of California. So like, maybe not so much, but I just I love the idea that he's like a gay man who like goes to like California and like maybe he like takes, because I think it's pretty close to LA, so maybe he goes to WeHo.

em

01:20:36

I wonder if Irvine is like, known for volleyball or sports in general. I don't know.

rainbow

01:20:40

I think I looked it up once, um for a fic idea that I have, and I think UC Irvine is pretty good. I think UCLA, when I looked, at least like their men's volleyball team, was pretty up there. That makes sense. I think that the UCs do a pretty good job.

em

01:20:54

Yeah and hey. Listen, gay people live in Republican areas all the time.

rainbow

01:20:58

They sure fucking do. They sure fucking do. I was one of them for a while. Thank you, sure fucking do. I was one of them for a while. Um, thank you for our liberal paradise.

01:21:08

Um, just kidding it's got its own problem we are surrounded by republican we are too yeah, we are, yeah, it's, we are an island, some very dangerous waters, um, yeah. So I have a couple of things. Um one I wanted to talk about Yamaguchi um and how he's such captain material. Because, like, he's like the one helping Yachi, he's like the one helping Yachi, he's like holding the ladder for her when they're doing the jump height measurements, and he's the one that yells at Kagehina to calm down because, like Hinata, like lands from his jump, and both Kagehina are like what is it? Cause it's a competition and they have to see who won.

em

01:21:40

Yamaguchi is just, I think, the most stable personality, the most even tempered, and actually there is like a stage, not a stage play, but the voice actors do a thing on stage and they do a scene of Tsukki being the one to, because Hinata wants to be the captain, obviously. But, Tsukkiis like it should be Yamaguchi. He's the one that recommends him, which I thought was interesting.

rainbow

01:21:59

Do we find out that on Karasuno, the players who pick the next captain? I'm not sure I think that makes sense. Um, yeah, so I just I wanted to talk about that because I love that. And then I also just want to talk about we're talking about Washijo and how like he doesn't like does he believe that Hinata is capable of it or is he still refusing to believe that and we do know at some point, I think because of this training camp.

01:22:21

I think he sees the way that Washijo, or he Washijo sees the way that Hinata works and I think, very specifically when they beat Inurizaki at the end of this season, what, like Anabara calls Washijo and is like, oh, I called him without thinking Washijo's like yeah, I saw it, and I think that's like. I think Washijo sees the way that Hinata works at this training camp. I think he sees the effect it has on his gameplay and I think that's what really gets him to like change his mind, because Washijo ends up being the one to help Hinata train in Brazil. He's like I have a student who like switched to beach and plays in Rio and like you know, you're going to spend a year getting ready and then you can go, like he wants to help and he wants to see how far this little shorty can go, and I think that's so beautiful.

01:23:03

And there's a fic I have bookmarked that I really want to read one day. That's a platonic Washijo Hinata and I think I want to. I need to read that someday. Yeah, god, I would hope so. I mean, I'm sure there's some not so platonic ones out there, but that's not the kind of dead dove I'm into. All right to all right. Cool is that it, yeah, is there. Did you want to say anything about, like Atsumu or any of the other characters you want to?

em

01:23:30

save that until we actually get to it. We've only just begun and we'll have way more to say as we go on, so I'll leave it there for now. Um, from the top of the mountain, fly high hi hi, hi, hi Aye aye, aye, aye.