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Fly: A Queer Haikyuu Podcast
S4E6: Enhancements
"If I know you, you can fly even higher."
This week, rainbow and em talk about season 4, episode 6 "Enhancements", where they dissect KageHina's soulmatism and Kageyama's attitude since he returned from the training camp.
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rainbow
00:10
hello everyone and welcome to fly a queer Haikyuu podcast. I'm rainbow they, she
em
00:14
and I'm em, and today we are talking about season four, episode six, enhancements. I believe in the dub it's called going higher both feel like euphemisms for doing. Um, what's the thing that athletes do? Oh, doping, yeah, that's like the street name for a steroid. Steroid, oh yeah yeah. They're doping in the club room.
rainbow
00:36
Well, you can dope with other things other than steroids. I know cool girl.
em
00:42
Imagine the Krasno boys are doping. Kageyama would never allow that.
rainbow
00:48
No, that's not correct. No, that is not how you get better, that's not how you get stronger. That would be cheating. Yes, oh my god, where's the doping arc?
em
00:56
in the time skip.
rainbow
00:57
Where's the fic where Hinata thinks if he does steroids he'll be better, and Kageyama has to convince him not to?
em
01:08
I'll tell you and I'm not a sports person, but I don't think I've ever heard a controversy where a volleyball player was cheating in that way.
rainbow
01:11
But you hear it in a lot of other sports. I mean that could just be because you don't hear about volleyball a lot. I'm sure in the history of volleyball there have been dopers.
em
01:17
Yeah, you guys doping. Okay, anyway, wrapping up that tangent, uh, we're gonna jump into some chit chat here. We've got, uh, some things to say. Now you may have known, uh, because of my little mistake, we are about a week behind our usual schedule, but still close enough to talk about juneteenth, which just which just happened. Kiki's racist. Kiki, you're literally half black. She's so silly.
rainbow
01:56
Em's wearing a dress and when she bends down I get a little tiny peek. It's a little bit of a fan service moment just for me always
em
on my own podcast.
rainbow
02:08
It's our podcast, baby. Yes, juneteenth happened on the 19th. I believe this episode is coming out June 23rd For those of you who don't know, because I feel like Juneteenth is the kind of thing that hasn't really popped into like mainstream white American culture until the last couple of years. So, for those of you who don't know, it originated in Galveston, texas, in 1865. And it's a commemoration of the ending of chattel slavery in the United States. And I just want to add that like well, yes, that form of slavery was ended. Slave labor still exists in the United States.
02:43
Look at prisons, where most of the people imprisoned are people of color and often for nonviolent drug offenses. And they make a lot of made in USA furniture. I think in was it Alabama or Louisiana? I think in Louisiana they like clean the governor's mansion. Oh, that's so gross, it's really disgusting. So, yeah, so we just wanted to shout out Juneteenth. There's lots of information you can find out there about it Probably not on the White House website anymore, but other places, non-government sponsored websites, where you can find information about that. You can see how Black communities have been celebrating it for, I mean at this point, like over a century. Look that up, educate yourself, if you don't already know about it, and educate yourself on the current issue we have with the prison industrial complex. A book that I highly recommend is the New Jim Crow Really good book. Really talks about the loss of our rights through the prison industrial complex. This country has been held back by racism yes, repeatedly, over and over again. Oh, why are things bad? White supremacy Yep, yep.
em
03:52
Pivoting to Haikyuu-related news. Where were you when Bokuro's beard dropped? I believe that that dropped, maybe overnight, but we woke up to it this morning. Yes, this morning, where we are recording on june 7th there is a new cover where we have Oikawa Ushijima and Bokuto featured as their present age 30. I love that they're around my age. I feel like I'm growing with them. Um, should I too grow a chin beard?
rainbow
04:20
I can't, but I could try oh my god, it'd be like red too, because of your red hair. It'd be horrible.
em
04:28
I'm neutral about it. I feel like I don't like hate it, but I'm a little confused. But I like to think about Akaashi giving it a little scritch.
rainbow
04:35
Yeah, I want to know Akaashi's feelings. I am excited to see what happens in BokuAka fics going forward now that the beard has been introduced into canon.
em
04:45
And I do want to confirm. We don't see Bokuto's hands, but Oikawa and Ushijima are ring free. Yes, so take that as you will.
rainbow
04:53
Yes, um, yeah, I was going back to the the same age thing. Kagehina are born the same year as me, um, which I love. I'm a little bit older, but no big deal. I'm the oldest, um, but no. So I do love that, like, I love knowing that, like, oh yeah, I'm gonna get to see them when they're like 29. Yeah, because I think the deal is, I think they're supposed to be a new Haikyuu magazine coming out in August, and so this was like this is going to be, I think the cover, yeah, something like that. Right, is there anything else? We don't have anything for housekeeping. We'll be recording the mid-season break episode soon. So, you know, be on the lookout for that in July. But yeah, other than that, I think we're ready to get into this episode. Count me down, all right. Em's recap in three, two one.
em
05:40
The boys are back in town reunited and it feels so good. But celebration time is quickly over and it's time to clock in, because Date Tech is here and they've got the bunch block of the century. Will Kageyama, fresh out of Tokyo, be able to handle the pressure of date picks higher than ever while Find out this time on Haikyuu? I actually forgot to write that little last bit, but you know I had to include it.
rainbow
06:02
Well, yeah, I saw that you hadn't written it and I was like she'll still say it. Yeah, she will, all right, yeah, and I think we talked about, when we watched this episode, how it feels a little bit like a transition episode. It feels like nothing, quite happens.
em
06:15
Well, yeah, we're kind of going from okay, our boys are back and now we're going into the start of this practice match with Date Tech and there'll be some really big moments next episode. But I mean, hey, every episode is worth an extra look a closer look.
rainbow
06:31
Yeah, I say that like nothing big happens, but things do happen that I'm excited to talk about.
em
06:36
And something gay always happens in every episode.
rainbow
06:39
Yeah, that's the Haikyuu promise is there's going to be a little bit of gay sprinkled in somewhere. And this episode starts off immediately with some gay, because we pick up where the last episode left off, with Kageyama standing um behind Hinata on the stairs saying you can fly higher, and Hinata, with the sun sun shining in the background um, with a little look of surprise maybe on his face as Kageyama tells him he can fly higher, and then we move on from that moment. We don't get to see any more of that, but it's like Noya comes up and he's shouting Hinata's name. I love him.
em
07:16
Well, the way Noya kind of like breaks this like moment between them, it's just giving like they were about to kiss. And then here comes Noya with the Shouyou.
rainbow
07:30
Yes, yeah, between them it's just giving like they were about to kiss. And then here comes Noya with the show yo, yes, yeah, he like he loves show you so much. And then, like Kageyama also says hi and Noya's like oh, hi, Kageyama, um, and I like that. Kageyama is like clearly unbothered by, uh, Noya's preference for Hinata. I'm sure he assumes he's like well, yes, everyone likes Hinata more than they like me. Well, Kageyamayama has his father, Suga. Yes, that's true, but yeah, he's happy to see them back when he walks into the gym and he says that he hopes they didn't start fighting immediately and Tanaka rats them out. He's like, yeah, they were fighting when I walked up.
em
07:56
But I love what Noya says. He's like well, that's basically what defines them right. He gets the chemistry.
rainbow
08:02
He does Listen. All of Karasuno ships Kagehina, we know it.
em
08:06
Yes, and Tsukki here is my favorite yes.
rainbow
08:09
Yes, well, before we get into what Tsukki does, we have TanaNoya asking Kageyama how the All Japan training camp was and our sweet autistic boy says the floors weren't made of wood. And Tanaka is severely disappointed. He wants to hear about the volleyball man. And Kageyama does confirm that there are a lot of good players there. And you know he's talking to TanaNoya and in the background Hinata is standing behind him watching with like a peculiar look on his face. He kind of looks like he's frowning. Like what do you think is going on here? Do we think he's still jealous that Kageyama got to go to a camp with other strong players or do we think he notices that something's a little off with Kageyama?
em
08:48
oh, I don't know, probably the jealousy thing. I did not notice this particular look, so I can't say.
rainbow
08:53
I notice it every time I watch it. He's just like he's got this, like. It's a little bit like the look he had on his face like at the very beginning of the Shiratorizawa training camp, where he's like what's going on right now. And so, yeah, it could be that he's like hearing Kageyama talk about these other strong. Maybe he's thinking back to the little giant who's a hundred times better than he is.
em
09:12
Probably. Yeah, I mean, he's probably still wondering what that whole jump higher thing was about, because they did get interrupted and now they're just like moving on. So maybe that's what he's thinking about. Maybe he's thinking about hmm, I never wondered how soft Kageyama's lips look in the early morning light, maybe.
rainbow
09:28
When Suga asks Hinata why he didn't sneak into the All Japan camp, Tsukki arrives to explain that Hinata didn't want to get arrested. It's like he was waiting for his cue. He really was. He was like I. You caused me so much grief with this bullshit and now I am going to expose you to everyone. And yeah, and then Suga is a like such a big brother to Tsukishima. He like reaches up so high to ruffle Tsukishima's hair, like Tsukki has to like duck down so that Suga can reach and I love how Tsukki is with Suga.
em
09:56
He really just kind of takes it in stride yeah, he's like I could not possibly.
rainbow
10:01
Well, he, he knows. First of all, if you give sass to Suga, Daichi's coming for you. He knows, yeah. And then Daichi and Asahi speaking of are very funny. They're walking into the gym as this is happening and Asahi says what are you his aunt, or something. And then Daichi says kind of bitterly, he's like he better not have gotten taller in five days. Oh, so yeah, it's very funny.
10:24
And then Hinata goes up to Daichi and apologizes for causing trouble and Kageyama, in his very Kageyama way, says like oh well, you would have been worthless without me anyway, which Hinata reacts to very strongly, saying you don't have to keep saying it, man. And Kageyama is so confused he's like I think I only said it one time, but he doesn't have the context of washi jo saying it. And so for Hinata, that was just like. It's such a stab in the gut of like I know, okay, I already had to admit it to everyone that without you I'm not, I don't, I'm a little held back, but you don't have to bring it up.
11:01
Um, and then kagema continue to fight in the background while everyone looks on. Um, we have tatashi walking behind Tsukishima being like oh, did you get taller, Tsukki, and Tsukki has to do one of it shut up, tatashi um. And then, like, we have narita saying like it sure was quiet for a couple days. And then we go to kiyo yachi, where yachi, like, has her hands over her mouth and she's clearly stressed like please don't start fighting again, please don't. Like.
11:23
She is like always prepared for them to start fist fighting yeah, well, kakahina really traumatized her yeah, which is like it sucks, like everyone else is just used to, like they're the only one, she's the only one who's seen them like really go at it with like intent to like hurt each other, whereas, like usually they're just like doing this kind of bullshit. But but Kyoko says all that fighting. It gives me a sense of peace. And in the dub in the dub just before we go into the opening, because like the camera pulls back and it's just the gym and you can still hear them fighting you can clearly see, clearly hear Hinata say your butt stinks. And it made me giggle. Why are you so close to his butt, thanks, and it made me giggle. Why are you so close to his butt? After the break, we see Yachi putting tape on top of the net and Hinata, the sweet little boy he is, rushes over to help her.
em
12:12
I said Hinata is always clocked in, just like Rainbow. Rainbow is the type of person wherever we go, she's helping out. She's bringing the carts back, as a lot of people argue. If you're a decent human being, you should but like helping out.
rainbow
12:29
we would like almost knock something over at the grocery store and she like said it right and stuff.
em
12:31
Yeah, she's just a good little angel and he knows the same way.
rainbow
12:33
I'll even like, I'll jump in. Somebody will be like, oh, do you know where this thing is?
em
12:36
and I'll be like, oh, it's over there, it's, I listen I like to help and you look over at me and I'm looking at you.
rainbow
12:42
Yeah, You've really made me aware of how much I help people in public. I wasn't. I was just like, oh, this is a normal thing that everyone does and it turns out, no, I just work everywhere I go.
em
12:52
Yep, I love it about you. Yes.
rainbow
12:55
Yeah. So Hinata clocks in and helps Yachi and you know he asks he's like what are you doing? What's this tape for for? And so Yachi explains that they're dividing the net into nine parts so their players can focus on where they want the ball to go. And everyone is practicing their serves.
13:11
And we see Asahi. He's doing something a little different. He thinks to himself 70 percent um, and we don't really know what that's all about. But he does a serve and it's really good. It like goes really close to the, but it's not out. Tanaka does a jump serve, but Noya gets it very easily, which he kind of like makes fun of him, for I enjoy that moment. And then we have Kanoshita, who we will remember from I think it was the last episode was doing jump floaters and Noya does have trouble receiving it overhand. And on the sideline Uka explains to Takeda that Noya still isn't comfortable with overhand passes but since they're the best to counter a jump float, Noya wants to practice them because they'll definitely run into people at nationals who have powerful jump floaters. Let's put a pin in that, um. And then we have Yamaguchi trying to do a jump floater and it goes out because we still see, like I think Kinoshita doing jump floaters. I think Tadashi is feeling like he's going to be left behind again which.
14:08
I think is interesting that like there's it's not like set up as like Yamaguchi's not mad at Kinoshita for doing this, um, and Kinoshita doesn't, like is doesn't seem to be coming from a place of like I have to do better than this first year, but it's just like you know, kinoshita clearly is just like I want to, you know, be able to do something on the court like the rest of you and Yamaguchi's like okay, but like I still want to be able to go on the court too, but I think he's like getting kind of too wrapped up in, like trying to compete with somebody else, which I think is an interesting example of how right which I think we see this with Oikawa a little bit too where like rivalry can sometimes be to your department yes, depending and then we have Hinata is going to pick up a ball and he's thinking about how Yamaguchi's been working hard. And then we hear a ball bouncing against the floor and everyone looks, including Hinata, to see Kageyama preparing to do one of his serves. And we cut to Ukai for just a moment to see him looking a little concerned about our blueberry. And so Kageyama does his serve and he pauses in midair with Hinata on the other side and Hinata still bent down to pick up the ball, and it's one of those like the like the background blacks out and it's just the two of them. And Kageyama hits the ball and he says it feels like it might go out, it feels a little off.
15:17
But we see Hinata do one of those split steps to receive the serve and he doesn't receive it too great. It like hits his arms and like go straight up in the air and like knocks him back. He falls to the ground. But everyone stops and stares at him but he like doesn't even notice, he just gets back up. He like he picks up the ball that he was trying to get earlier and starts like bumping it to himself and walking away. I think a little bit like, oh man, I wish I could have gotten that serve. But everyone else is like looking at him and Kyoko on the sideline says that Hinata can do some super athletic stuff, sometimes some like super human moves, but what he did just now was almost normal. It was like he meant to do it.
em
15:54
Yeah, I think she sums it up really well because, and like as they've been saying is like Hinata has been kind of getting by by the skin of his teeth because he's got the partnership with Kageyama and he has amazing athleticism, but now they're noticing like, oh, he's actually like thinking about things and doing the volleyball stuff yeah, he's really paying attention, and it's not just kyoko who notices it.
rainbow
16:14
Like we see Kageyama and Ukai like, really like we see their faces of like oh holy shit, what just happened? Um. So then we go to the end of practice, um, where they're cleaning up, and Hinata asked Kageyama what he meant earlier about flying even higher. And Kageyama says like come hit some fours with me. And Daichi, with his I mean it face on says like aren't you guys tired from your training camps? Don't overwork yourselves. Um. And Hinata's like, oh please, captain, can we just stay just like a few minutes? We'll just, we'll just do like a little bit. And Daichi's like, oh please, captain, can we just stay just like a few minutes? We'll just, we'll just do like a little bit. And Daichi's like, okay, just a little bit. Um. And then we cut to a moment where we see like a Karasuno jacket being thrown to the ground and we realized later that it's Hinata's. Hinata's taken his jacket off to do his spikes. Hinata will die before wearing a jacket. He, yeah, even even though we'll talk about it in a little bit, um, about how fucking cold it is, um.
17:07
But so we see Kageyama trying to use mouth sounds to explain the difference. Um in, in jumping to Hinata, yeah, he's like your usual junk jump is like boing boing. The dub is really funny. I'm definitely gonna have. I'm gonna beg him to put both versions in, because it's always funny, no matter what. And he said and Kageyama says like if you jump right, it makes a boom sound. And Kageyama is very funny here. He's like you usually just scuttle around and Hinata's all offended. He's like don't say it like that. And it's like Hinata, just calm down, you don't have to be so worried about Kageyama's opinion of you. He is in love with you. And Kageyama says it's Hinata's momentum that gives him that bubbling um, which may be all he can do during matches. But then he says but if I know you, you can jump even higher you do know him you do know him and you know he can jump higher and he talks.
18:03
he asked, he asks Hinata, when you're jumping, where do you put your weight? And Hinata's like uh, I don't know my feet. And Kageyama's like of course, that's where you put your feet, are you really? And they start like yelling at each other. Hinata's like why am I being yelled at? And they're bickering. And then they're like they're like getting into, settle back in.
em
18:21
I. So that's what I would say, though, because I've definitely had those moments where they ask stuff like that I'm like my feet, and I also showed Rainbow this clip because it reminds me, if there's any, it's Always Sunny fans out there when Dee and Charlie are getting ready to do some acting and Dee is like where's your breath? Where, like, find your breath?
rainbow
18:41
You want to find your breath.
em
18:42
Yeah, yeah, it's in my mouth and Charlie's like it's in my mouth it was very funny.
rainbow
18:49
And then she's like try to find breathe, where is it? He's like it's in my mouth, it's in my mouth still.
em
18:53
It's like yeah, man, I that like a level of literalism I really relate to.
rainbow
18:58
Charlie is definitely my favorite character from that show.
em
19:05
Yeah, I like. This is just another. Like Kageyama is so impressed by Hinata that it pisses him off moment, because Hinata is like well, I just never thought about it and he's like you've been jumping like that without thinking about it and he's so mad.
rainbow
19:14
Yes, that's great, I didn't even think about it like that. But you're absolutely right. He's like you can just do that without any thought behind it. And so then he's probably like, if you just put a little bit of thought into what you're doing, think about how good you could be, and that's where the frustration is born, I think, for Kageyama, but if only he could handle his big feelings without screaming all the time.
19:34
Yeah, it would be really great because it's like Kageyama, if you just what about you thinking down and sitting for a second and thinking about how Hinata didn't have coaches to help him learn this? He's just like he literally has had to just like go by instinct, Like Karasuno is his first opportunity to actually start learning stuff and he has a partner who yells at him. Yeah, it's like try, gentle coaching, you know. So we have Kageyama saying like okay, you need to concentrate your weight into the ball of your feet. The balls of your feet and for those of you who don't know, the ball of the foot is the flat part between the toes and the arch and it creates a higher, more stable jump when we do this. Kageyama looks so excited when he's talking about the sound those jumps make when your feet hit the floor. He's just like really revved up by it. You can tell so.
20:25
Anyway, after the explanation, we cut to outside, where Asahi and Daichi are going up to the club room, and Daichi is like I really hope they do only stay at it for a little bit. It could snow any minute because it's so fucking cold, hina, to put your jacket on. They walk into the club room and Suga talks about how Kagehina are insane for doing even more practice after their training camps and he says how much you have to love volleyball to stay late after a full practice. We got to Asahi, who says he thinks that Kageyama looks even more tense than usual since he got back.
em
20:59
I love this from Asahi because you know people really associate Suga with Kageyama as his senpai and Asahi is such a like soft spoken man, kind of more in the background senpai, but I love that he noticed this about Kageyama well they have their own little relationship.
rainbow
21:15
I feel like ever since, like the date tech match kind of situation, the whole situation between date tech, like I feel like Asahi is the first like spiker that Kageyama really had to learn how to communicate with in the way that he's like started to learn how to communicate with others because, like, he and Asahi are just so different and Asahi isn't like Hinata. Like if you yell at Asahi the way that he yells at Hinata, like Asahi's just gonna shrink back into himself, whereas, like you know, and but also Kageyama is so respectful of his senpai I don't think he would yell at somebody like that, unless there's something really intense going on with him. Yeah, so then back to the gym. We have Kageyama setting and Hinata thinking about how perfect it is. Peter, what is this? It's like we get it.
em
22:01
You, you haven't even gotten to spike very much in the last week and you've seen other setters work, but you, just, you just think about how perfect Kageyama's set is well, here's the thing about Hinata is he'll be the first to tell you how much Kageyama's personality sucks, but he'll also be the first to tell you how amazing of a setter he is yeah, he really does have a lot of respect for Kageyama's volleyball skills and he it's I mean it goes back to what Suga said all the way in like episode what two or three where he's like Kageyama is like the height of volleyball to you and, as kandaichi recently said, oh so he's still the pinnacle for you always always and forever.
rainbow
22:37
And so you know this perfect set uh has been given to him and Hinata goes to spike. But while he's mid-air, Kageyama yells at him about his jump drifting and he tells him to pay attention to his feet. So then Hinata goes back and he tries jumping again, putting more weight into the balls of his feet, and it's slow motion of him jumping, the air swirling around him. He looks a lot like Hoshiyomi at the training camp. But midway through the jump, Daichi yells at them through the window. He, he's like go home, and Hinata like freezes in midair and the ball like hits him in the head and he falls back down. And we see that Daichi has like climbed up to the window and he's like almost like falling. It looks very funny. And then we have Suga and Asahi at the other window, on another side of the building, and they're like just laughing at them and it's all very fun.
em
23:21
Very, very comedy, very slice of life. I do kind of hate that Daichi ruins this moment.
rainbow
23:27
I feel edged a little bit because I think Hinata was really gonna nail it, but it's too early in the season for us to see him get it. He's got to be held back a little bit, you know, oh enough, that's good storytelling, like give characters like a little bit of what they want, but never let it go all the way or give them what they want and then take it back cruelly. So then we go to the next day's practice and they're doing their spiking drills and Yachi notices how quiet and focused Hinata is. He's over on the other side of the net with Noya and he's got that same laser focused look that he had at the training camp. And I want to say here I think initially I thought Hinata had just like volunteered to like be a ball boy with Noya for this, but I think what happens is, I think after you do your spike, you go over to the side and receive or like be a ball boy, and then you get back in line because after, because you know he's a ball boy and he um watches Tsukki do one of his spikes and he goes up to Tsukki and they like pass by as they're going under the net and he says it looked like Tsukki was hitting higher spikes when Kogane was setting for him and we see Kageyama on the other side of the net noticing this and clearly like thinking about it.
em
24:35
And Tsukki clearly takes this as some sort of dig because he's like I'm jumping as usual, thanks. But it really is just Hinata noticing a difference, and it really is more of a critique on Kageyama than Tsukki, and I think that's what Kageyama clocks in on.
rainbow
24:47
Yeah, and because Hinata is like, oh OK, maybe it was just in my imagination, he very quickly brushes it off. But then so we see Kageyama has a look on his face, and then the camera kind of pans to Ukai, who's noticing Kageyama, and he has that same concerned look on his face again. So he goes up to Kageyama after these drills are done and he kind of like awkwardly asks him if there's something bothering him. I like the way he does it. He's like so I mean, I like I kind of heard how the camp was, but how was it really? It's very clear that this like 26 year old man is like I don't know how to talk to a 16 year old.
em
25:17
Yeah, but like the working with kids side, I think is still a little uncomfortable for him. And also, just side note, all I can hear is Killer Bee now.
rainbow
25:31
Yeah. So you know, he kind of like awkwardly asked. He's like how was the training camp? And Kageyama was like it was fine and Ukai's like well, did something happen? And Kageyama was like no. But then like he clearly thinks about it and I do wonder like, do you think Kageyama really just kind of like that all of that stuff went to the back of his mind and he wasn't really thinking about it, or do you think he was trying to like put up a front for Ukai?
em
25:50
No, I think maybe when Ukai asked him about I mean, think about his first thought is like well, it wasn't a wooden floor, I think it. Just he just had to think about it for a second. And then there is something that's bothering him yeah.
rainbow
26:03
So then he asked coach Ukai. He's like what does it mean to be a goody? Two shoes? And Ukai's like, oh, did somebody say that to you? And kakayama says, yeah, another setter. And then it gets very dramatic and the dramatic music plays and it's Ukai like thinking in his head and like the the background blacks out and he's like, oh, I should have known there'd be some shady characters at that camp.
em
26:24
In the sub it says heavy hitters, but I think we get the idea.
rainbow
26:27
Yeah, and so, and he tells Kageyama that you know the old man, you know old coach Ukai. Daddy Ukai says there's no better set than one that's easy for the spiker to hit. Yeah, but that doesn't mean you need to hesitate. Yes, and so we see kind of, we see Kageyama kind of thinking about this and I want to talk for just a second. Did we talk about Atsu Kage last episode? I believe we did. Okay, cool. So this note must have been for earlier. But I did have a single dad AU idea where Ukai is the dad of Kageyama and he doesn't like Kageyama's new shady boyfriend Atsumu oh my god, anyway, that would be a fun story.
27:06
So we leave that moment and it's the guys preparing for date tech to show up for their practice match. And Noya goes up to Asahi. He says, Asahi, san, you better not be scared of them anymore. And Asahi, pretty coolly, is just like no man, I couldn't ask for better opponents. And Noya's so like thrilled and impressed with him like I just. Here's the thing about asaNoya. It's like Asahi finds Noya so inspiring and he doesn't believe for a second that Noya could be inspired by him. But then at the end of the day, the way that Noya looks at Asahi like he hung the goddamn moon, I know they're canon, they're so canon. But then Asahi also says that he wants to try something. And we see Noya looks a little confused. We don't know what he wants to try something. And we see Noya looks a little confused. We don't know what he wants to try, but we'll find out. And then Date Tech approaches and they look scary as fuck. And then it's the commercial break.
em
27:52
Yes, we come back and it's Date Tech. They're as loud and intimidating as ever as they all bow and go Chos and Aone starts to do his pointing thing and Futakuchi karate, chops his arm and is like no locking on. And I'm wondering when this happened, because Futakuchi was all about it the first time. I'm wondering if, because now they're the third years, they have to be like more grown up. What do you think?
rainbow
28:17
Well, they're still second years, but they are the senpai of the team. They're the oldest ones. Futakuchi is the captain. I think he recognizes that. Like listen, that was fine when we were like underlings, but like now, we have to set a good example for the rest of our team. We need to stop scaring people. Also, it's a practice match, Calm down. Yeah, it's just, it's who Aone is. So he, like he has locked on to Asahi in a little bit. Talk about a rare pair. People definitely ship them and I get it. Yeah, Also Asahi, I'm not scared. Azumane looks scared shitless when they walk up.
em
28:49
Him and Suga are like Jesus. Well cause, they're big and tall and loud and they're just. They look a little mean.
rainbow
28:54
Yes.
em
28:55
Um and so then we get our puppy dog Konagana Gawa. I can only call him Kogane, because I'm fucking with that name.
rainbow
29:01
Yeah, it's like Konagawa, it's Kona Konega.
em
29:07
Konag. Yeah, tell me, tell me how to say the name.
rainbow
29:12
Hang on, I have it written up here Koganegawa, Koganegawa, but we'll call him Koganegawa, is excited to see Hinata.
em
29:19
And then he also says Tsukki, you know, just excited to see his boys from the training camp, literally yesterday. And Yamaguchi, territorial boyfriend, girlfriend number one, turns and like growls at him. He's so pissed. It's like what are you threatened by here? He's like don't you?
rainbow
29:37
dare talk to my best friend and use his nickname like. You know him like that. It's him using the nickname. I think it is. It's specifically the nickname he's like. That's what I call him, even though I think, like other people on karasuno call him that not the stranger bitch. I just like here's. Here's the thing I'm. I'm having headcanon, headcanons now. First of all, I feel like I always think of like tsukiyama as, like Tsukishima is the one that like keeps them from having other friends because he's such a bitch. But I think Yamaguchi doesn't want to share Tsukishima with anyone and he's fine with it. He's like, no, it can just be the two of us. Also, I'm sure Tsukishima and Yamaguchi talked like about the training camp as it was going on and I wonder if, like Tsukishima like mentioned Kogane or something Like I'm sure Yamaguchi was like I'm sure there was a part of him that was like Tsukki, better not make any other friends.
em
30:28
Yeah, it's true. He had to be separated from his bestie for five days and we didn't really get to see how he felt about that, but I'm sure he was missing him.
rainbow
30:34
I think we see a little bit of how he felt.
em
30:38
Yeah, yeah, it's in this moment, yes. And then we have Aone and Hinata like have their little respectful bow to each other. I love their relationship once again. And then Kageyama is pouting so hard his lips might fall off as he stares at Kogane, remembering what Hinata said about how he got Tsukki to jump higher. And we get a little insight into how Kageyama views Hinata, because he's thinking about Hinata's words. And so this like graphic in the background of Hinata, looking like it's like a children's color drawing, and Hinata looks kind of stupid. And then there's meatball in the background and a volleyball and sunshine and a flower.
rainbow
31:12
Okay, I have to talk. I have to talk about this. My note for this is in all caps, because this is one of my favorite moments. It's like it canon confirmed Kageyama associates Hinata with sunshine and volleyball and meat, meat, buns and flowers, for some reason, and he's like jumping, and I just noticed for the first time, watching it right before we recorded this, that he's like the drawing of Hinata is like go, like um, alternatively, like sticking his tongue out, like, and it's like a little snake tongue. It's very gremlin. I'm like this is how Kageyama always pictures Hinata, which like contrasts this to how he pictures Oikawa stop.
em
31:52
Yeah, I feel like like in this year I don't know Kageyama, I feel like hasn't realized his attraction and like, especially because you know Hinata's like this little gremlin. I think it's more like cute but annoying is the mood right now yeah, well, no, I love it.
rainbow
32:04
I think it's so appropriate. I also love that it's like a child's drawing, because I'm like, yes, we understand Kageyama, childlike brain, yes and well, Hinata's childish and yeah, yeah yeah, I think it just makes sense. But I love like, but like think about it. Like Hinata, the sunshine makes sense because of his name, but then like, volleyball and meat buns are also things that Kageyama loves. They Stop, they're soulmates, they're perfect.
em
32:23
Ukai is talking to the team before they start and telling them how you know, date Tech has the best blocking in their prefecture, maybe even on a national level, and that they've gotten even stronger than last time in these last like six months since they played them. This is their opportunity to get used to these kind of walls so they're ready for them in nationals. And then we get rainbow's favorite moment.
rainbow
32:45
I hate this so much. It's so the style is so the cgi bullshit.
em
32:51
It's like for a practice match, for a practice match so I'm kind of neutral, like I'm like, okay, they're trying something different, whatever, but it's they're showing the starting order, um. So it's every player gets like a minute, like a moment with their stats and like the cgi is pretty rough like the way they show it, um. But we see each of the team members and then their positions on the court and it's very like they're just.
rainbow
33:15
They're not even wearing their jerseys like it's a practice match. Why are they doing this? Like I, you want to try something new in the middle of season four when we've never done this before, ever. It's egregious. I am angry. Choices.
em
33:30
And I also wanted to point out Onagawa, who is one of their wing spikers, looks like Octogawa from Bungo Stray Dogs Just the like hair, the forehead part specifically, If you know you know, I also think that guy looks a little bit to.
rainbow
33:43
When I first saw him he looks like Kiba from Naruto, like specifically Naruto Shippuden, not Naruto Shippuden, naruto Shonen Jump. When he's got like his hood up and it's all fuzzy he really reminded me of Kiba. But then after you said the Aktugawa thing, I was like no, you're totally right, he does.
em
33:58
He is giving Aktugawa, just without his cunty little hair things so the game starts, and we start off with a successful bunch block against Asahi, even while using Hinata as a decoy. Takeda points out that usually with their back row fast attacks they only get stuck with one blocker, but all three blockers were on them. Ukai says that, like what Tsukki did in the Shiratorizawa match, good blocks put pressure not just on the spiker but on the setter as well. Oh good, I'm sure this won't create an explosive reaction from Kageyama.
rainbow
34:29
I have a couple of things to say here. First of all, I always forget that Kogane has never played against Hinata before this match. This is his first time. Because we see like Hinata is going to go to do a freak quick immediately and Kogane is like, oh, is gonna go to do a freak quick immediately and Kogane is like, oh, is he gonna do his freak quick? Like I've never gotten to see it up close.
34:48
Um, also, when we see Kogane go to block with Aone and Futakuchi, Kogane's hand really does look gigantic. I do forget that he is the big bone setter, but he is big, um, and then I think, when Ukai and Takeda are talking, I think Takeda has a little notebook that he takes notes in, where he's like reading from, and I just thought that was really cute. I was like, oh, he has like a little notebook and when, like Ukai and like other people are explaining stuff to him, he like writes it down. And then I had a headcanon about Takeda, maybe like writing a little poem about Ukai or something cute like that, and then Ukai finding it.
em
35:21
He definitely also writes about the boys and, like like, compares them to crows in his poetry oh my god.
rainbow
35:26
Yeah, he absolutely does. Uh Takeda's poetry book. Where is it? Is that coming out in the new Haikyuu magazine?
em
35:32
oh my god someone write to furudate so and uki kind of says that like this could be a harsher game on Kageyama than even the shiratoru zawa match, which is crazy to think about, but it's proving to be true. It seems like they saw right through what Kageyama was trying to do with, using Hinata as a decoy because Futakuchi says taunt us, will you? From the sidelines, Tsukki says that he's sure Kageyama wanted to get through that high block on the first try like a jerk, and Suka notes maybe he was trying too hard, and I think that's what we also saw when they were doing the practice serves is. I think Kageyama's just revved up from camp, also having Atsumu's words in the back of his mind, like he wants to kind of face that, and so he, maybe he's a little bit doing the most right now yeah, do you do?
rainbow
36:13
we think he's like trying to prove like I'm not a goody two-shoes. I'm not a goody two-shoes.
em
36:17
Maybe subconsciously yeah, I could see that and also, just just like you know, it's like hey, I was just with the best, I don't know if that's really, I don't know. So Kage was frustrated. Sure that they were going to follow Hinata.
rainbow
36:29
Well, I was going to say like, yeah, he's frustrated, but I think he's also excited by the challenge, like we see a lot of smiles from him here where he's like ooh, he's like oh, yeah this is interesting.
em
36:48
Like I, you know, I've got this pressure on me from this block, but there is a smile there. So then this is where we have Takeda, kind of looking through his notebook and talking to Ukai, explaining that DateTech are the type of blockers. They are are read blockers and they also do a bunch shift. So while most blockers are spread out along the court so that at least they have one block on each person, the DateTech bunches up in the middle and so when they read block, they can then block the most amount of people. Takeda says he would think the spread would be more effective, but Ukai says when read blockers get used to moving as a bunch, it's a very scary defense. Their goal is to always build multiple walls anywhere along the net. So then Hinata manages to get one through, but him and Kageyama especially. You noted that Hinata's face looks so intense here he just is very expressive in this episode that Datek managed to still get a finger on it and had two blockers on him, and then I think this is where you know they both look excited by this challenge anyway.
37:43
So Kageyama continues to feel the pressure of their high ass wall and tries to throw him off by setting to the right to Daichi, but to no avail. He apologizes to Daichi who is surprised, telling him it was a fine set. But Kageyama is thinking to himself you know, was that the right decision? Or? He? He note he notices that, like date tech is pressuring him to use anything but the middle and again we get this like fired up smile that he can tell like these strong players are affecting him. Takeda says on the sidelines that even as an amateur, he can tell how scary date decks blocks are. And you guys says that the battles between setters and blockers go on before and after attacks. It's a battle to see who can apply the most pressure. And I said here. But just like his little boyfriend, Kageyama loves playing with strong players. He thinks back to Atsumu and Sakusa and Motoya and then thinking about Datek's blocks.
rainbow
38:39
Well I was going to say, doesn't he also like when he's thinking about, like playing against other strong players, does he also think of Awaisame? Yeah?
em
38:46
he like imagines all these strong players and Awaisame is in the background, which is interesting because it's mostly the new Tokyo kids and date tech. But I just I think that's a little nod to how strong Awaisame is and how much respect he has for Awaisame. Yes, agreed. So then we have Kogane, who pulls off a successful though panicked looking dump, because I think it was kind of a last minute decision, and he does where we learned back in their match with Seijo. You know, it doesn't have to be like a feint, he can really slam it in and that's what he does, so hard that, you know, not even Noya can pick it up.
39:19
And then we have Kageyama who sets to Asahi and he feels pretty good about it, but Asahi still gets blocked, Hmm. And he appears to be thinking hard about something and Kageyama's kind of staring at him like what the fuck man? Yep, we have Tsukki blocking and Futakuchi kind of taunts him, saying I guess Karasuno does have a blocker. Yeah, it's Tsukki, baby. Futakuchi then faints and NishiNoya gets it with one of his iconic rolling thunders. That's always a crowd pleaser. Everyone's hyped, except for Kageyama who yells that he's in the way and everyone is shook and we end the episode with NishiNoya going huh.
rainbow
39:56
Yes, yeah, Kageyama says NishiNoya-san, you're in the way and it is. It is truly like, shocking. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa, because, like we were just talking about how Kageyama is so respectful of his senpai and for like him to like, say, like to be so like blunt with Noya, like this, it is like it's like, and people don't yell at Noya yeah, there's a lot of things happening right now that are shockers.
em
40:24
Yes, yes and well and I think this is where we see Kageyama's frustration especially coming through yeah, and we kind of have to put a pin there, because we'll get into it in the next episode.
rainbow
40:34
Yeah, that's how they end the episode, which it's like, oh my God, it like it, it's the feeling of it, it's such a cliffhanger. It's like surely this is the end of karasuno, like surely Kageyama dies. Yeah, absolutely, Kageyama is gonna get struck by lightning after this. Right, and I did just want to know that. I think um, in the dub you know, obviously in in english we don't say huh like they do in japanese, but he has like a huh. That, I think, is pretty good, definitely better than hoshiyomi's from the training camp just want to say um, because greg ayers knows what he's doing and he's an amazing voice actor. That's the end of the episode. We're going to see what happens in the next one. Write in folks. What do you think is going to happen? Do you think Kageyama is going to get torn limb from limb?
em
41:16
Write in quick and go to the past. All right Time for manga versus anime. This episode covers chapters 220 to 222. One main difference I noted and it's not a big deal, and I think they probably did this to save money and make things easier but in the manga they actually go to date tech school, uh, instead of them coming to their gym. But I'm wondering if they just didn't feel like drawing new gyms I think, yeah, I mean I think realistically it makes sense.
rainbow
41:41
I'm sure date tech has a better gym and better equipment than karasuno does. Probably a bigger gym too. Yeah, but for the animation purposes they already have that background ready to go like. I think it does make sense and it's a small enough change that I don't think it really affects anything yeah, I mean, imagine if they'd gone to date tech we'd get like a full cgi stage with like fire in the background.
em
42:02
Well, and speaking of for my next note, obviously they can't do a CGI thing in the manga, but also like instead of these individual, it's just like a panel of each team standing and looking cool, and I wish they'd just done that instead.
rainbow
42:14
Well, they usually do that in the manga, from what I remember, like every time before they start a match. It's like each team, so that you can like just to remind the readers, like this is everyone's name, this is everyone's position, so that, like, you can follow along, for some reason the anime, I assume, because they just like didn't have, they like didn't have, like the full episode, like they still they needed to fill that time and so they were like let's throw in the shittiest thing you've ever seen. I'm so angry about it.
em
42:37
And so then in the conversation with Kageyama and Ukai Kageyama and Ukai Kageyama does say out loud I still don't understand what goody two-shoes meant, but I don't think it was a compliment and I think that's. He says that out loud in the manga. He never really says that in the anime. Obviously we can tell by his face he doesn't think it was a compliment. But I think just having that confirmation, um, is kind of nice well, and I think it's.
rainbow
43:00
It gives us a good insight into, like, what Kageyama is feeling, because it's not just like he, he it's the kind of thing where he, like he understands that it wasn't a compliment, but he doesn't understand what the insult means. There's like so much confusion wrapped up in his anger, which I think happens a lot with Kageyama. I think his confusion often comes out as anger.
em
43:18
Yes, very much. And so, yes, so we have a little bit of bonus content here. So at the end of, I think, 220, we have. So it's like Tendo is interviewing Hinata about the little race that him and Kageyama did to the club room when they first reunited and it's Tendo going congrats on your victory and Hinata says thank you very much. And Tendo says can you tell us what was the key to winning that race and Hinata goes well, hmm, I think it had to be the corner heading to the stairs. I think I went in. I went in at a good angle and Tendo's like I see, that's all for our interview with sprinter Shouyou Hinata back to you. And then it goes to. It looks like kagehina are like up where the club room is and they're looking down and Tendo and Ushijima are like just going on a run past them and they're both like they have a little question mark on their head.
rainbow
44:05
That's so cute. Do you think that little interview just happened in Tendo's head?
em
44:08
I think it happened in Hinata's head, oh, like I don't really know exactly, but I enjoyed it.
rainbow
44:16
I think Furudate just wasn't ready to let go of Ushiten. No, and none of us are. No, I wasn't either, so I was really glad to see Tendo back again.
em
44:24
And then we have an extra page of Futakuchi going to knock off Aone's point and one of the team members goes here we go. It's Futakuchi's unique anti-Aone lock on block. And there's a little note from Sensei that says due to page constraints I had to shave off a few pages here and there in the date tech practice game arc when it ran in weekly shonen jump. I've gone back through and subtly patched up some of those holes in this volume. So I think that's one of the things that must have gotten like cut. And that's all for manga versus anime.
rainbow
44:52
Swing the spotlight around to our character spotlight all right, I know you're probably wondering who the fuck are we supposed to do for this character spotlight? We've already talked about everyone we could talk about, but I found somebody it's Onagana Taro um, and that's the guy we were talking about earlier who kind of looks like Akutagawa slash Kiba, and the reason I picked him and other dub listeners I, or dub watchers I should say, um, please let me know if I'm just like insane or if this actually happened. There's a moment towards the end of the episode where, like they're in the practice match and Hinata serves and, uh, onagawa is number eight and I swear somebody on date tech calls him pantaloons. They're like get it pantal. I just like it's whatever they were saying. There's no possible way they were saying any part of this man's name. It sounded like they said pantaloons and then I was like I'm so confused. What does this mean? Is this some sort of inside joke? Is this a cultural reference? I don't understand what's going on.
45:53
I even like doing his character spotlight for his character sheet. He's got like a stance where he kind of looks like he's doing like a disco stance, like Saturday Night Fever, like John Travolta. So I was like like John Travolta. So I was like maybe John Travolta's character had a nickname pantaloons. He didn't. Also, I read the Wikipedia plot summary for, uh, that movie and things happen. I was not prepared for um, we'll talk about it off mic. Um, I don't know if everyone watched the movie, um anyway, so I have no idea what's going on there. I don't know why they called him pantaloons. I don't know if that's actually what they called him. Do they say anything Like I think in the sub they just call him like his name.
em
46:28
Yeah, that might have just been the dub trying to be funny. I mean, we can't get to know every single team member in the world, although we should. But I just feel like this guy has like a little gem of a personality that we just don't get to see.
rainbow
46:39
Yeah, I was just like, so I just I had to. I rewound it like three times because I was like I turned it up so loud I was like what's happening here? I couldn't figure it out. If anyone has any context, please let me know. But moving on to the rest of his character spotlight his personality really not much. There seems like a dedicated player. Um, we already said who we think he looks like, um, but I want to move on to his name meaning because it's interesting. His family name is Onagawa, which means woman river, and then his given name is Taro, which means thick, thick woman river.
47:14
All right. So moving on to his character sheet, where he is doing a full on disco pose with like disco pants and everything.
em
47:23
His face looks so somber.
rainbow
47:25
It really he looks like. It looks like somebody like dared him to do, or he lost a bet and had to do this and he's upset about it. Yeah, but Onagawa Taro is a second year at Date Technical High School. He's in class three. His position is wing spiker. His height is 5'9", which is about 175.26 centimeters. His birthday is December 14th, so he is a.
em
47:51
Sagittarius. So you know I'm an optimist and I'll say that's a Nicki Minaj line Sagittarius men. Some of them have a very distinct look and you know what I think he fits in.
rainbow
48:01
Yeah.
48:02
One of my best friends is a Sagittarius. His favorite distinct look, and you know what I think he fits in. Yeah, one of my best friends is a sagittarius. His favorite food is instant ramen really a lot of connections to naruto here, yeah, um, and his current worry is that his mom keeps buying the low sodium, low calorie instant ramen. It's probably because it's all you eat, kid, yeah, and she's like well, let's make sure you're not getting too much of the stuff you shouldn't be getting. But but you know, teenage boys, what are you going to do? Teenagers in general, what are you going to do? I ate like crap. As a teen, I ate like crap. Now, we do our best. Okay, moving on to his five-point ability parameters His power and speed are both twos, his jumping and stamina are threes and his technique and intelligence are both fours.
em
48:41
Yeah, it's interesting to be spotlighting someone on Daytech. That's not a blocker, and so you know his technique and intelligence are the strongest, whereas you know usually you'd be looking for jumping and whatnot.
rainbow
48:53
But yeah, all right. Well, I have no idea what the fuck we're going to do for the next character, spotlight. But we'll get there, baby, don't you worry, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it all right, and now it's time for the world's favorite game.
em
49:05
It's who in haikyuu? This week's scenario is brought to you by me and it's what are their parents, slash guardians like? And we're gonna talk about whoever we have headcanons for, because sometimes, with the way the boys act, I'm like I think I know what kind of father you have. So, starting off with Hinata, let's start off with our golden boy, as usual. I think his mom is pretty chill. She has to be because Hinata is never home and she doesn't seem worried about it.
49:32
And I think I've also mentioned that I had canon that Hinata's dad like works maybe overseas or offshore or like. I just think he's out of the picture a lot, but not because of a divorce or anything but um, and his dad's definitely ginger because their mom is not, and I think that they're, and maybe he's athletic too. The athleticism has to come from somewhere, because we'll learn that Natsu is pretty athletic as well. So I think that they're just an athletic fun. I'd say easygoing family, like if Hinata wasn't living over a mountain, they would be the house that you would always go over to because their parents were chill yeah, I totally see that.
rainbow
50:08
I know a lot of fanon uh likes to think of Hinata as fatherless, which I understand. Um, it creates angst and fix um. Yeah, I like to think that their mom is the super athletic one. I like to think that she was like the queen of sports day when she was in school but, she didn't have like the same passion and drive that Hinata and not to do so.
50:28
she's, like you know, she's doing her own thing. Yeah, um, but yeah, I think, overall, like I think you know, I I think that emotional intelligence speaks to like some gentle parenting and parents who, like really talked about his emotions with him and helped him like identify things. You know, I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and also being like an older sibling, I think sometimes having to, and I, like you know, I think it's, you know, maybe not made explicit, but I think in subtext you can read Hinata is like coming from like a lower income family. Maybe they don't have as much money and you know, if the dad is like not at home a lot, you know, maybe Hinata has kind of had to step in and help out with Natsu in situations and like she's a little.
51:10
she's like what, eight years younger than him or something, something like that. Yeah, she's pretty young, she's she's a lot younger than him, and I think now that she's like older, she's like elementary school age, so she's probably like occupied with other things, but I could see, especially when she was like really little, him having to like help out with her a lot more.
em
51:25
Yeah.
rainbow
51:26
Okay, Kageyama.
em
51:28
Is this a spoiler zone thing?
rainbow
51:30
I think we can talk about it.
em
51:31
So Kageyama, it seems that he was pretty primarily raised by his grandfather while he was young until he well, let's just keep it at that. He was primarily raised by his grandfather, but if I had to talk about his parents which is totally off canon, so this is all just speculation I feel like he had to get the yelling, as someone who also has maybe a little bit of anger I think maybe his father was a yeller, you know, like that's kind of just what he would jump to for disciplining or like that's kind of how he showed that he cared, because, you know, Kageyama had to get that from somewhere. So I'm going to assume there's an angry man in that house and but otherwise, like sometimes, people will in fact say that they're abusive. I think neglectful is the closest form of abuse that Kageyama's parents do, because they just never seem, and a lot of parents are just not around in Haikyuu and that's because they're not the focus, but they really just don't seem to be around.
52:28
And it's odd to me, where Kageyama's passion is volleyball, that they just they don't come to games Like you, just don't see them ever, even when we do get to see a little bit of Kageyama's family life in the time skip. So I think they're neglectful and Kageyama's dad yells and Kageyama's mom kind of just like lets things happen yeah, Kageyama like kind of gives, like he's just kind of like taking care of himself a little bit.
52:49
Yes, you know? Yeah, he's very much on his own, which is like would also explain his struggle with socializing.
rainbow
52:55
Yeah, yeah, like to me, like his parents are giving and I see this in a lot of fics that they like they work all the time, like their lives are their jobs and that's what they're doing, and like I think we can see that like he doesn't seem to come from like lower income. I think his family is pretty like solidly middle class.
em
53:11
Probably they're probably I think a lot of people had a can of that. His parents work a ton, which is very, especially if they're office workers. That's very in line with what you hear about like work life balance. In Japan it's non-existent Right First, especially for like office worker types. So I think the assumption can be that they maybe are like workaholics and they make a bunch of money, but they're not really there as parents.
rainbow
53:36
Yeah, and I think we talked about before where, like I think this is a fanon thing. I don't think it's canon, but like, moving on to other players, like Daichi seems like he has a, like he's the oldest sibling and has like a bunch of younger siblings, yeah, and like maybe his parents work all the time too, or like they're just so busy because they've got so many kids to take care of that kind of thing. I think Noya, um, I think we, I don't know if we've gotten here yet, but I think we can talk about.
54:03
I don't think it's like a huge spoiler or anything.
em
54:04
I think he's like raised by his grandpa, it seems yes, so we can either assume that his parents are dead or I think another believable thing is maybe they weren't really like equipped to be parents and they wanted to go off and do their own thing, and so Noya kind of just got left by his grandpa or it could just be that, like, maybe his parents also work a lot and he just spends most of his time with his grandpa.
54:24
Yeah, and well, without giving too much away. We see where I think nishiNoya got a lot of his free spirit and his like fearlessness from his grandpa, who encouraged kind of like you know, just going for things yeah, we'll talk.
rainbow
54:37
We definitely talk about that later in this season, so we'll get into it.
em
54:40
I think is it Oikawa that a lot of people headcanon has a single mom.
rainbow
54:45
I think. So I have a lot of like headcanons about Oikawa and I think this I have a lot of like definitely like non-canonical headcanons that work better, for I think in canon I think his mom is like doing his best, like loves her son all of this in fanon, my head canons are that Oikawa was raised by a narcissistic mother and that's why he is the way he is. I think he gives like like, maybe not even specifically mother like, but he gives like. One of your parents was like verbally abusive, not in the yelly way, but in the way that just made you feel bad about yourself all the time like, yeah, cutting, cutting down your, your self-esteem a little bit yeah, like he's just so shitty and it's like you know how did you get like this, either you?
55:26
have like great parents and we don't know why you ended up this way, or one of your parents is pretty shitty yeah, I like to think a wise me has lesbian moms.
em
55:35
I think that's another popular headcanon I think that's.
rainbow
55:38
I think that's right. I think that makes sense. We never meet a wise me's parents and so we get to believe what we want, and I believe that they're both butch lesbians, yeah, and that's why a wise me is the way he is. I think a lot of them just have like chill parents who are like fine with you know them doing what they want to do um, oh yeah, bocado listed here, I think.
em
56:02
Oh, talk a lot about dads, but maybe bocado gets his like attitude, his hey, hey, his excitement from his mom.
rainbow
56:08
I like to think that too yeah I think, like, canonically, he has older sisters too. I think he's like the baby brother that that tracks for sure. So I totally see, and yeah, bocado, like I always like to headcanon that like bocado is a feminist. Totally see, and yeah, Bokuto, like I always like to head cannon that like Bokuto is a feminist and like other guys will try to like be misogynistic around him and he'll be like, well, actually love that yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think.
em
56:27
If there's anyone else in particular, I think a lot of these parents were pretty, and I mean again, remember these guys are 90s babies, so maybe their parents were able to be a little more hands-off. Yeah, this generation.
rainbow
56:42
Yeah, I think, like when these guys were born, that was like right before helicopter parenting became like a super big thing. I think we were, just because I think that was still like the end, like there was a little bit of the stranger dangerous stuff going on, which, like stranger dangerous bullshit, you're more likely to be attacked by somebody you know. Um, anyway, um, but yeah, I think like I think there's like a little bit like who do we think had a helicopter parent?
57:06
any of them, I would almost I would have said yachi, if I didn't know how her mom was yeah, well, yeah, that's the thing is, yachi is one of the few people whose parents we actually get to meet. I'm thinking, like I feel like Akaashi has like a very like almost like a formal relationship with his parents. I think there's love there, but, just like, from the way he acts, I think there's a lot about like, I think there's like a reservedness to like all of the Akaashi's that I'm sure, like when Bokuto comes around for family get togethers, it's very jarring for everyone, but I like to think they're the kind of people who, like their families, accept their partner like immediately and love them and like, yes, you're part of the family.
em
57:45
I think Asahi's parents are also both very like, kind of soft spoken and gentle yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that.
rainbow
57:53
I think Suga's parents are. Suga's parents are like crunchy granola people. Yeah, that's what they're, yeah, they're giving, yeah, he's so chaotic. I just feel like they really encourage that. You know Uh-huh, but lovingly, you know not in the like slightly neglectful way that some parents can be where they're like so hands off that it's like oh, actually, hang on. Yeah, okay, cool, anyone else? I think that's it. And, listeners, as always, please write in. We want to know what you think as well.
em
58:22
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rainbow
58:37
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em
58:48
And now, what's that up there? It's the summit of the spoiler zone.
rainbow
58:59
The oxygen is very low up here. Why do we do that? And I can't breathe.
em
59:06
I saw a TikTok of people going up Mount Everest and they passed a body of someone they thought was resting and he was dead.
rainbow
59:15
Yeah, climbing a mountain and reaching the summit is only impressive. The first time, um, listen anyone out there if you don't know about everest and all the problems, please go look it up. I think there's a john oliver video about it. There are a lot of bodies wow, a lot of frozen human waste, oh my god um. And honestly, a lot of people pay, um, uh, like I think it's in nepal like they pay sherpas who do most of the hard work for them, and they are often the people who die more than, like, the rich, affluent people who go. Yeah, it's a really fucked up. It's become like a whole tourism thing. Look it up. It's not impressive to climb mount everest. It's literally not even the tallest mountain um, in the world and I just think it's like. It's like weird loser shit.
em
59:56
I'm sorry I just, I mean, I get this idea of like wanting to challenge yourself, but with these extreme things it does feel like um narcissism yeah, it's just like, look at how cool I like I don't know.
rainbow
01:00:06
If somebody were to be like, hey, I climbed mount everest, here's a picture of me at the top I would have so many questions of like, oh well, did you hire somebody? Like what? Like, what's going on? Why? Why mount everest? Somebody did that like over a hundred years ago. I just don't, it's not impressive.
em
Don't tell rainbow, she'll shit on your life.
rainbow
I wait, listen. Some people think things are impressive and they're wrong. Um, and I'll tell them that like the animators who animated that shitty cgi scene earlier in the episode.
em
01:00:35
No well, now that we're at the top of our unproblematic imaginary summit, you have a note.
rainbow
01:00:39
So, yeah, I just wanted to note that Kageyama's excitement in this episode over facing strong players makes me think of later in the season when we see Hinata and Kageyama getting like excited about playing strong. I think that's like. I think we see that like throughout the show, but I think this season in particular, there's a big focus on like these other strong players that they go up against, which I think it makes sense because they're going to nationals, they're about to meet other powerhouse schools from across the nation, like this is it. This is their moment, and I just think that's like a big part of this whole season and I'm so excited to talk about that moment when Hinata looks all scary and Kageyama gets his little fucking evil grin.
em
01:01:17
Oh, it's a good moment yeah, I like how they can bond over this, like shared, uh monster attitude that they have. Yeah, absolutely so. What I almost started to get into when we were talking at the top about pokido's beard is there was also a interview with sensei where he talked about, you know, the future vice captains, and Narita is the vice captain of the second years and Hinata is the vice captain, and now everyone assumed that, because Kageyama had the number two, that he was vice captain, which I think I would assume that all twos are vice captains, but I don't think that's actually the case. So what? In reality, he was just taking on Suga's number, which is even better to me.
rainbow
01:01:58
Okay, that's so interesting. So there must have been fanon stuff that I took as canon that I thought was in the manga. That wasn't, and we'll have to get there. You know, we'll talk about it when we get there, because I always thought that Tanaka was the vice captain in second year. I thought he was the vice captain to Inoshita's captain. Oh, but then hearing that narita is which is like why is it? Because he's also a bench warmer.
em
01:02:22
Well, maybe we just assumed based on numbers of the jersey.
rainbow
01:02:26
That must be what it is. But then fruit and it's like, and it could be one of those things where it's like you finished this manga like over 10 years ago. Maybe you're just kind of, maybe it's just kind of like oh, I think this is what I did. I got that impression a little bit too.
em
01:02:39
So you know, I think you want a headcanon, whatever you want, who gives a shit. But I do love the idea, like, and also I think it makes sense for Hinata to be a vice captain. I think he's captain like material in some ways, especially like, if we assume as a third year, maybe he's because we're already seeing some maturity on him, yeah, so maybe he's chilled out more and is better suited and he is like a really good, I think, teacher.
rainbow
01:02:59
Yes, so I, I buy it, I buy that ticket and I also just love, like Kageyama just picking Suga's number, no matter what yeah, well, and I think we've talked about before, Hinata picks the number five so he can have Tanaka's number, which I think is also beautiful, and then Tsukki has uh Asahi's three.
em
01:03:17
So, yeah, that's that's all we got for today. I think folks, yeah, episode over. Uh, enjoy a beautiful june day in this crumbling world and until next week, fly high.